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I think this schedule is a thing of beauty. I don't believe we are a very good team but I see the signs of us becoming one. VCU is as good of a team as we could have beaten at this stage (if we weren't absolutely on fire).

We've been tested with a big man from BG, solid guards, and now a pressing team. Throw in the last minute close game experience and that is all you can ask for.

I'm looking forward to some cupcakes before and after Ga Tech to get Roberts and Williams some experience and for our guys to gel more. Just gotta survive that Ga Tech game.
 
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[quote="Marillac" post=303955]I think this schedule is a thing of beauty. I don't believe we are a very good team but I see the signs of us becoming one. VCU is as good of a team as we could have beaten at this stage (if we weren't absolutely on fire).

We've been tested with a big man from BG, solid guards, and now a pressing team. Throw in the last minute close game experience and that is all you can ask for.

‘Talent’ by itself does not make a good ‘team’.
But I agree—like last years fatigued warriors—these guys do not quit, and I believe will become a very good ‘team’.

I'm looking forward to some cupcakes before and after Ga Tech to get Roberts and Williams some experience and for our guys to gel more. Just gotta survive that Ga Tech game.[/quote]
 
[quote="Marillac" post=303955]I think this schedule is a thing of beauty. I don't believe we are a very good team but I see the signs of us becoming one. VCU is as good of a team as we could have beaten at this stage (if we weren't absolutely on fire).

We've been tested with a big man from BG, solid guards, and now a pressing team. Throw in the last minute close game experience and that is all you can ask for.

I'm looking forward to some cupcakes before and after Ga Tech to get Roberts and Williams some experience and for our guys to gel more. Just gotta survive that Ga Tech game.[/quote]

Don't sleep on Princeton. We've been somewhat vulnerable to backdoor plays, with no big man. Nobody does it better then them.

You can also be assured that they will play a smart, well disciplined game. Won't be an easy W, IMO.
 
[quote="Marillac" post=303955]I think this schedule is a thing of beauty. I don't believe we are a very well coached team and I don't see the signs of us becoming one. VCU is as good of a team as we could have beaten at this stage (if we weren't absolutely on fire).
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[quote="SJU11phd" post=303960][quote="Marillac" post=303955]I think this schedule is a thing of beauty. I don't believe we are a very well coached team and I don't see the signs of us becoming one. VCU is as good of a team as we could have beaten at this stage (if we weren't absolutely on fire).
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I don't think it's fair to judge Mullin's coaching based on the garbage he had the first three years. I've heard from a very knowledgeable and trusted sources that our offensive practices are extremely impressive.

Let's see how this season plays out. I think things will be fine if we can keep the talent rolling in.
 
[quote="SJU61982" post=303958][quote="Marillac" post=303955]I think this schedule is a thing of beauty. I don't believe we are a very good team but I see the signs of us becoming one. VCU is as good of a team as we could have beaten at this stage (if we weren't absolutely on fire).

We've been tested with a big man from BG, solid guards, and now a pressing team. Throw in the last minute close game experience and that is all you can ask for.

I'm looking forward to some cupcakes before and after Ga Tech to get Roberts and Williams some experience and for our guys to gel more. Just gotta survive that Ga Tech game.[/quote]

Don't sleep on Princeton. We've been somewhat vulnerable to backdoor plays, with no big man. Nobody does it better then them.

You can also be assured that they will play a smart, well disciplined game. Won't be an easy W, IMO.[/quote]

Princeton is capable of beating us any given year.
 
[quote="Marillac" post=303962][quote="SJU11phd" post=303960][quote="Marillac" post=303955]I think this schedule is a thing of beauty. I don't believe we are a very well coached team and I don't see the signs of us becoming one. VCU is as good of a team as we could have beaten at this stage (if we weren't absolutely on fire).
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I don't think it's fair to judge Mullin's coaching based on the garbage he had the first three years. I've heard from a very knowledgeable and trusted sources that our offensive practices are extremely impressive.

Let's see how this season plays out. I think things will be fine if we can keep the talent rolling in.[/quote]

I'm glad the practices are impressive but the product on the court is garbage. St. John's was 1000 times more talented than VCU (who isn't even a Kenpom top 100 team), but the coaching staff basically let Ponds hijack this game, and let him do whatever he wanted for better or worse.

I'm shocked that many on here and social media are praising Ponds. What he did tonight was completely embarrassing. You could see the disdain on the faces of Heron and Figueroa, who were left to watch Ponds jack up contested 35 foot 3s, and take the ball up dribble around for 10 seconds then jack up a ridiculous shot without ever passing.

The blame has to go on the staff. Notice how in the Rutgers game when the ball was more evenly distributed we won in a blowout, and in all these "great" games by Ponds we were left to have to make miracle comebacks against teams with majorly inferior talent. I'm glad we have a bunch of easy games coming up (with the exception of maybe the GT game) because there are major issues that need to be worked out, and this staff has got to find a way to play Roberts and Greg Williams at least a few minutes a game.

I've said this many times before, but with Chris Mullin as head coach this program is going no where. I'd be ecstatic to be wrong, but my belief is stronger than ever after watching this circus act on display tonight.
 
[quote="Marillac" post=303955]I think this schedule is a thing of beauty. I don't believe we are a very good team but I see the signs of us becoming one. VCU is as good of a team as we could have beaten at this stage (if we weren't absolutely on fire).

We've been tested with a big man from BG, solid guards, and now a pressing team. Throw in the last minute close game experience and that is all you can ask for.

I'm looking forward to some cupcakes before and after Ga Tech to get Roberts and Williams some experience and for our guys to gel more. Just gotta survive that Ga Tech game.[/quote]
Yes, next phase of schedule should give CM a chance to spread out PT to give key guys some rest and freshman a little time. Georgia Tech must be taken seriously and then the BE gauntlet begins. Looking at the first 4 conference games, with 3 on the road, going 2/2 would be fine. Obviously not preferable, but I think in league play everyone will be beating up on each other.
 
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[quote="SJU11phd" post=303972][quote="Marillac" post=303962][quote="SJU11phd" post=303960][quote="Marillac" post=303955]I think this schedule is a thing of beauty. I don't believe we are a very well coached team and I don't see the signs of us becoming one. VCU is as good of a team as we could have beaten at this stage (if we weren't absolutely on fire).
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I don't think it's fair to judge Mullin's coaching based on the garbage he had the first three years. I've heard from a very knowledgeable and trusted sources that our offensive practices are extremely impressive.

Let's see how this season plays out. I think things will be fine if we can keep the talent rolling in.[/quote]

I'm glad the practices are impressive but the product on the court is garbage. St. John's was 1000 times more talented than VCU (who isn't even a Kenpom top 100 team), but the coaching staff basically let Ponds hijack this game, and let him do whatever he wanted for better or worse.

I'm shocked that many on here and social media are praising Ponds. What he did tonight was completely embarrassing. You could see the disdain on the faces of Heron and Figueroa, who were left to watch Ponds jack up contested 35 foot 3s, and take the ball up dribble around for 10 seconds then jack up a ridiculous shot without ever passing.

The blame has to go on the staff. Notice how in the Rutgers game when the ball was more evenly distributed we won in a blowout, and in all these "great" games by Ponds we were left to have to make miracle comebacks against teams with majorly inferior talent. I'm glad we have a bunch of easy games coming up (with the exception of maybe the GT game) because there are major issues that need to be worked out, and this staff has got to find a way to play Roberts and Greg Williams at least a few minutes a game.

I've said this many times before, but with Chris Mullin as head coach this program is going no where. I'd be ecstatic to be wrong, but my belief is stronger than ever after watching this circus act on display tonight.[/quote]

I was yelling for ponds to pass more. With that said heron and Clark combined went for 5-25!
 
[quote="SJU11phd" post=303972][quote="Marillac" post=303962][quote="SJU11phd" post=303960][quote="Marillac" post=303955]I think this schedule is a thing of beauty. I don't believe we are a very well coached team and I don't see the signs of us becoming one. VCU is as good of a team as we could have beaten at this stage (if we weren't absolutely on fire).
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I don't think it's fair to judge Mullin's coaching based on the garbage he had the first three years. I've heard from a very knowledgeable and trusted sources that our offensive practices are extremely impressive.

Let's see how this season plays out. I think things will be fine if we can keep the talent rolling in.[/quote]

I'm glad the practices are impressive but the product on the court is garbage. St. John's was 1000 times more talented than VCU (who isn't even a Kenpom top 100 team), but the coaching staff basically let Ponds hijack this game, and let him do whatever he wanted for better or worse.

I'm shocked that many on here and social media are praising Ponds. What he did tonight was completely embarrassing. You could see the disdain on the faces of Heron and Figueroa, who were left to watch Ponds jack up contested 35 foot 3s, and take the ball up dribble around for 10 seconds then jack up a ridiculous shot without ever passing.

The blame has to go on the staff. Notice how in the Rutgers game when the ball was more evenly distributed we won in a blowout, and in all these "great" games by Ponds we were left to have to make miracle comebacks against teams with majorly inferior talent. I'm glad we have a bunch of easy games coming up (with the exception of maybe the GT game) because there are major issues that need to be worked out, and this staff has got to find a way to play Roberts and Greg Williams at least a few minutes a game.

I've said this many times before, but with Chris Mullin as head coach this program is going no where. I'd be ecstatic to be wrong, but my belief is stronger than ever after watching this circus act on display tonight.[/quote]

Let's see. 35 points on 11-25, 12-15, 7 steals, 7 assists, and 3 boards. Oh, I forgot one other embarrassing thing about Ponds. The game winning shot. He is the guy in college basketball that you want to have the ball down the stretch. I watched the last minutes and the overtime twice. Sure, I saw some frustration by Figgy when he waved for the ball and didn't get it. But I also saw all the guys celebrating when the game ended with a W. Heron is a tremendous player and will have many great nights. But the last few nights belonged to Ponds. The next few games it may be Heron's turn again.
 
Hyped to get the W, but it's our major talent advantage that got it by the skin of our teeth. We are playing with low basketball IQ. Hero ball, dribbling at top of key for 10 seconds as everyone else stands around the 3PT line then realizing with 7 seconds left that we have to get a shot off and it was usually a contested one that clanked off the rim or missed completely. We missed a zillion layups and even got the rebounds for several of them only to miss again. Very frustrating to watch. Based on the huge TO margin you would think we won by 20. We let them believe they could beat us because we kept playing hero ball and did not convert practically any of the turnovers into points.

It seems that the staff not only allows this iso-ball stuff but encourages it as well. That's a big concern for me. It's like letting students do whatever they want in the classroom. Sure, they may get an A even in a crazy classroom setting but it's probably because the kid is inherently smart. These kids need structure and they need to be reigned in. Love Ponds, but he took several early in the shot clock contested 3's from Suffolk County and they all seemed to miss. In the Rutgers game, the players that did not have their shot falling realized such and passed to the hot hands. Last night, we forced the issue with cold shooting players. I still don't get the layup thing...I haven't seen any other team in division I convert less than like 95% of their layups. It seems like we converted 40% of our layups last night. Let's hope we finally start to click and get some consistency. LJ needs to see a LOT more action. Priority should be: Heron, Ponds, LJ in order of importance on offense.
 
[quote="SJU11phd" post=303972][quote="Marillac" post=303962][quote="SJU11phd" post=303960][quote="Marillac" post=303955]I think this schedule is a thing of beauty. I don't believe we are a very well coached team and I don't see the signs of us becoming one. VCU is as good of a team as we could have beaten at this stage (if we weren't absolutely on fire).
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Fixed.[/quote]

I don't think it's fair to judge Mullin's coaching based on the garbage he had the first three years. I've heard from a very knowledgeable and trusted sources that our offensive practices are extremely impressive.

Let's see how this season plays out. I think things will be fine if we can keep the talent rolling in.[/quote]

I'm glad the practices are impressive but the product on the court is garbage. St. John's was 1000 times more talented than VCU (who isn't even a Kenpom top 100 team), but the coaching staff basically let Ponds hijack this game, and let him do whatever he wanted for better or worse.

I'm shocked that many on here and social media are praising Ponds. What he did tonight was completely embarrassing. You could see the disdain on the faces of Heron and Figueroa, who were left to watch Ponds jack up contested 35 foot 3s, and take the ball up dribble around for 10 seconds then jack up a ridiculous shot without ever passing.

The blame has to go on the staff. Notice how in the Rutgers game when the ball was more evenly distributed we won in a blowout, and in all these "great" games by Ponds we were left to have to make miracle comebacks against teams with majorly inferior talent. I'm glad we have a bunch of easy games coming up (with the exception of maybe the GT game) because there are major issues that need to be worked out, and this staff has got to find a way to play Roberts and Greg Williams at least a few minutes a game.

I've said this many times before, but with Chris Mullin as head coach this program is going no where. I'd be ecstatic to be wrong, but my belief is stronger than ever after watching this circus act on display tonight.[/quote]

Don’t like to call people out but this post is embarrassing. Heron was a wet noodle all night on offense and looked like a zombie out there. Ponds was diving for loose balls, blocking shots, basically doing everything in his power to win and you’re out here shitting on him. Heron and Fig will have big nights throughout the year wouldn’t worry about that and definitely not opposed to Mullin allowing one of the 5-10 best players in the country taking over games when needed.
 
I wouldn't blame Ponds. He had 4 assists in first 5 minutes of game but everyone on the team besides LJ was playing like crap. He decided to take over after seeing nobody else had it! I've noticed he tries to get everyone involved early on but if they are not playing well he becomes more aggressive to score, no problem with that.

Heron did not have it last night, he needed to shoot a bit more to open up the drive. Also, with Keita out he is having bigger guys on him now and the drive isn't that easy as it use to be.
 
[quote="SJU11phd" post=303972][quote="Marillac" post=303962][quote="SJU11phd" post=303960][quote="Marillac" post=303955]I think this schedule is a thing of beauty. I don't believe we are a very well coached team and I don't see the signs of us becoming one. VCU is as good of a team as we could have beaten at this stage (if we weren't absolutely on fire).
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Fixed.[/quote]

I don't think it's fair to judge Mullin's coaching based on the garbage he had the first three years. I've heard from a very knowledgeable and trusted sources that our offensive practices are extremely impressive.

Let's see how this season plays out. I think things will be fine if we can keep the talent rolling in.[/quote]

I'm glad the practices are impressive but the product on the court is garbage. St. John's was 1000 times more talented than VCU (who isn't even a Kenpom top 100 team), but the coaching staff basically let Ponds hijack this game, and let him do whatever he wanted for better or worse.

I'm shocked that many on here and social media are praising Ponds. What he did tonight was completely embarrassing. You could see the disdain on the faces of Heron and Figueroa, who were left to watch Ponds jack up contested 35 foot 3s, and take the ball up dribble around for 10 seconds then jack up a ridiculous shot without ever passing.

The blame has to go on the staff. Notice how in the Rutgers game when the ball was more evenly distributed we won in a blowout, and in all these "great" games by Ponds we were left to have to make miracle comebacks against teams with majorly inferior talent. I'm glad we have a bunch of easy games coming up (with the exception of maybe the GT game) because there are major issues that need to be worked out, and this staff has got to find a way to play Roberts and Greg Williams at least a few minutes a game.

I've said this many times before, but with Chris Mullin as head coach this program is going no where. I'd be ecstatic to be wrong, but my belief is stronger than ever after watching this circus act on display tonight.[/quote]

I agree. I dont understand the praise for Ponds' game last night. Yes, he hit the game winner, and we are all glad he did.
But the second half he was all hero ball. No ball movement. Just Isos and token screens at the top of the key. Hes lucky he got to the line as often as he did.
Clark was definitely off last night, but I dont think the same can be said for Heron. He simply wasn't given the ball. It was Ponds vs the world. His defense was also shit poor. Most of those late closeouts on 3pt shooters were his fault. Imo it was clear he was trying to impress the scouts in attendance, and if anything his selfish play probably had the opposite effect.

If we dont play unselfish and move the ball we are not going to be above .500 in league play.
 
I thought Fran had another good night calling the game. He repeated his comment from the night before about transfers being "bought and paid for", and made it pretty clear he meant dirty recruiting practices. He also called SJU a less disciplined version of Virginia Tech, meaning he was thinking "not as well coached". Mullin wants his guys to move the ball, but believes that pulling a guy after a questionable shot selection destroys confidence. He would rather a bad shot than a turnover. I am sure there are no contrarian opinions on his staff. Maybe that is the source of resistance to adding to or changing the staff. Who knows, but it makes sense.

Another point harped on here is our huge talent advantage against everyone we faced. You know who has a huge talent advantage every game? Duke. They have the first 3 picks in the draft. Every mock draft I saw had Heron undrafted, and Ponds undrafted or late second round. We had a slight talent advantage over VCU. But they have more size, more depth, and guys like Vann that can play. We also have a team full of scorers with no real quarterback. Some here think it doesn't matter. it's positionless basketball. I think it also results in aimless basketball. Back to the topic. We have some easy games on paper coming up. That's where our talent advantage should really show. Yet the guys have shown they can play down to the competition. Staff needs to get that in their heads, and work to keep it from happening.
 
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[quote="Ray Morgan" post=304025]I thought Fran had another good night calling the game. He repeated his comment from the night before about transfers being "bought and paid for", and made it pretty clear he meant dirty recruiting practices. He also called SJU a less disciplined version of Virginia Tech, meaning he was thinking "not as well coached". Mullin wants his guys to move the ball, but believes that pulling a guy after a questionable shot selection destroys confidence. He would rather a bad shot than a turnover. I am sure there are no contrarian opinions on his staff. Maybe that is the source of resistance to adding to or changing the staff. Who knows, but it makes sense.

Another point harped on here is our huge talent advantage against everyone we faced. You know who has a huge talent advantage every game? Duke. They have the first 3 picks in the draft. Every mock draft I saw had Heron undrafted, and Ponds undrafted or late second round. We had a slight talent advantage over VCU. But they have more size, more depth, and guys like Vann that can play. We also have a team full of scorers with no real quarterback. Some here think it doesn't matter. it's positionless basketball. I think it also results in aimless basketball. Back to the topic. We have some easy games on paper coming up. That's where our talent advantage should really show. Yet the guys have shown they can play down to the competition. Staff needs to get that in their heads, and work to keep it from happening.[/quote]

How did you interpret the bought and paid for comment? I was a bit confused there?
 
[quote="Moose" post=304031][quote="Ray Morgan" post=304025]I thought Fran had another good night calling the game. He repeated his comment from the night before about transfers being "bought and paid for", and made it pretty clear he meant dirty recruiting practices. He also called SJU a less disciplined version of Virginia Tech, meaning he was thinking "not as well coached". Mullin wants his guys to move the ball, but believes that pulling a guy after a questionable shot selection destroys confidence. He would rather a bad shot than a turnover. I am sure there are no contrarian opinions on his staff. Maybe that is the source of resistance to adding to or changing the staff. Who knows, but it makes sense.

Another point harped on here is our huge talent advantage against everyone we faced. You know who has a huge talent advantage every game? Duke. They have the first 3 picks in the draft. Every mock draft I saw had Heron undrafted, and Ponds undrafted or late second round. We had a slight talent advantage over VCU. But they have more size, more depth, and guys like Vann that can play. We also have a team full of scorers with no real quarterback. Some here think it doesn't matter. it's positionless basketball. I think it also results in aimless basketball. Back to the topic. We have some easy games on paper coming up. That's where our talent advantage should really show. Yet the guys have shown they can play down to the competition. Staff needs to get that in their heads, and work to keep it from happening.[/quote]

How did you interpret the bought and paid for comment? I was a bit confused there?[/quote]

I actually had to think about that for a minute to try and understand why he said that! But yeah, had to refer to dirty recruting.

Although it's possible he means you're getting someone who's closer to a finished product since they are more of a polished player than a freshman.
 
[quote="Room112" post=304035][quote="Moose" post=304031][quote="Ray Morgan" post=304025]I thought Fran had another good night calling the game. He repeated his comment from the night before about transfers being "bought and paid for", and made it pretty clear he meant dirty recruiting practices. He also called SJU a less disciplined version of Virginia Tech, meaning he was thinking "not as well coached". Mullin wants his guys to move the ball, but believes that pulling a guy after a questionable shot selection destroys confidence. He would rather a bad shot than a turnover. I am sure there are no contrarian opinions on his staff. Maybe that is the source of resistance to adding to or changing the staff. Who knows, but it makes sense.

Another point harped on here is our huge talent advantage against everyone we faced. You know who has a huge talent advantage every game? Duke. They have the first 3 picks in the draft. Every mock draft I saw had Heron undrafted, and Ponds undrafted or late second round. We had a slight talent advantage over VCU. But they have more size, more depth, and guys like Vann that can play. We also have a team full of scorers with no real quarterback. Some here think it doesn't matter. it's positionless basketball. I think it also results in aimless basketball. Back to the topic. We have some easy games on paper coming up. That's where our talent advantage should really show. Yet the guys have shown they can play down to the competition. Staff needs to get that in their heads, and work to keep it from happening.[/quote]

How did you interpret the bought and paid for comment? I was a bit confused there?[/quote]

I actually had to think about that for a minute to try and understand why he said that! But yeah, had to refer to dirty recruting.

Although it's possible he means you're getting someone who's closer to a finished product since they are more of a polished player than a freshman.[/quote]

But I would think JUCO recruits are a hell of lot less dirty than HS recruits. Which is where I was confused.
 
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