Rumble in the Garden / SJU Review / May 4

Ghostzapper wrote: LJSA Wrote: Only two of the last 30 champs have won fewer than 30, and they were 25 and 27. Over the past 15 years, if you didn't have at least 26 wins headed into the tournament, you weren't the champ. I can't speak for others, but 26 is the new 20 for me.

This is interesting but you must factor in that in order to become the NCAA champ you must add six wins to your record. That means if you come into the tournament with 24 wins you will hit the thirty mark. That also means that the teams that won the championship with less than thirty had 19 and 21 wins before their tournament runs. Add in the wins you might get from a conference tournament run and you could conceivably add ten wins to your regular season record.

When you are thinking about SJU prognostications for wins you don't really factor in wins from post-season runs since we haven't had any since our 2002-2003 NIT run.

Agreed Ghostzapper. When I posted that for me a good year would be at least 20 wins and making the NCAA I was talking about 20 regular season wins; maybe should have made that clearer. While I agree it would be possible for us to win 20 regular season games and not make the dance, I'd take my chances on that one.
 
Didn't Uconn win 5 BE T games and then 6 NCAA games one year either with Kemba Walker or the Kevin Ollie team? That's 11 post season wins in one season.
 
Yeah, but that team was 23-9 going into the BET. I'm sure we'd all take that in a heartbeat. They finished 9-9 in conference and ended up in 9th place so they were the best team playing that first day of the tourney, against DePaul (surprise). That conference, while filled with amazing teams, in retrospect was just too big come tourney time.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=284366][quote="Section9" post=284354]
It's the LJSA new math, coming to an elementary school near you real soon.[/quote]

Feel free to contact Chaminade, NYU, and Stanford about my math if you'd like.[/quote]

Ooops, forgot to put the old winky and smiley icons. I was kidding.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=284331][quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=284317][quote="L J S A" post=284309][quote="salty dog" post=284223]I remember when lots of posters on this forum didn’t think winning 20 games was much of an acomplishment any more even though it was a staple of Looie’s teams[/quote]

129 teams won 20 games last year. It doesn't have the same luster as it once did, especially when half the teams or more in a major conference reach that mark.[/quote] There are also more games played in a year.[/quote]

Only two of the last 30 champs have won fewer than 30, and they were 25 and 27. Over the past 15 years, if you didn't have at least 26 wins headed into the tournament, you weren't the champ. I can't speak for others, but 26 is the new 20 for me.[/quote]

But how many teams won 26 or more games last year? I did a quick glance and it was only about 20 teams and that's including tournament wins. Certainly a lofty goal.
 
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