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So you're saying you agree with Sly that we should be talking about RJ in the same sentence as two NBA top 50 all time players and The Truth?

Ok cool, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just not their own facts
I remember when I first started following St Johns, that Troy Bell was playing for BC and I enjoyed watching him. He ended up winning the BE POY twice, but never really even got a shot in the NBA. That was one of my first lessons that some kids are just great college players and it unfortunately doesn't equate to the NBA.

That being said, it does not at all diminish what they accomplish in college.
 
#perspective

Chris Mullin:
McD AA
3x BE POY
BET MVP
2nd Team AA 1984
1st Team AA 1985
College POY 1985
#7 overall draft pick

Patrick Ewing:
McD AA
National HS POY
2x BE POY
4x BE DPOY
3x 1st team AA
National college POY
Final Four MOP
#1 overall draft pick

Walter Berry:
BE POY
National college POY 1986
14th overall draft pick

RJ Luis:
BE POY
2nd team AA
Undrafted
No doubt that Mullin was better than RJ, but if you're going to credit Mullin as BE Tournament MVP (which he was), than RJ deserves the same acknowledgement. Guessing this was just an oversight, on your part.
 
So you're saying you agree with Sly that we should be talking about RJ in the same sentence as two NBA top 50 all time players and The Truth?

Ok cool, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just not their own facts
All ,I said was that RJ set a record for points scored in one half of a Big East Championship game. All SLYFOXX did was agree while mentioning great players who have not scored that many points. A very clear and concise statement,

How and why you read more into his post than was necessary, is totally beyond my comprehension. But then again, since I started college in 1965 and didn't graduate from St John's until 1986, it's obvious that I ain't that bright.
 
All ,I said was that RJ set a record for points scored in one half of a Big East Championship game. All SLYFOXX did was agree while mentioning great players who have not scored that many points. A very clear and concise statement,

How and why you read more into his post than was necessary, is totally beyond my comprehension. But then again, since I started college in 1965 and didn't graduate from St John's until 1986, it's obvious that I ain't that bright.

No argument at all with your post. Also no argument that RJ had a great season and was a huge part of the team's success. And no argument that he has a high ceiling and may work his way into the NBA.

My only beef is that (and not from you) the "RJ is up there with Mullin and Berry" is just silly. Which you know as well as I do. And after awhile as much as I try to ignore it I can't help but put some context out there for folks who don't seem able to distinguish an apple from an orange.

It's a bit disappointing but totally unsurprising in the modern age that "RJ is not in the same league as Mullin and Ewing" is interpreted as "RJ sucks" but I have given up on the viability of anything other than the most polarized opinions in the modern world.

Did I love every aspect of RJ's game? Clearly not. Do I have a negative word to say about him as a person? Absolutely not. Does he have potential to succeed? Sure does. Is he a threat to make people forget about Michael Jordan? I'm gonna say no.

TBH I don't think any of that should be remotely controversial but here we are.
 
So you're saying you agree with Sly that we should be talking about RJ in the same sentence as two NBA top 50 all time players and The Truth?

Ok cool, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just not their own facts
With all due respect I don't think Beast was saying that at all. He was simply giving examples of undrafted players who flourished in the NBA and expressing his hope that RJ might add his name to that list, which most Johnnie fans would be 100% in agreement with.
To compare RJ or almost any Johnnie with names like Ewing, Mullin & Berry is unfair but that doesn't mean RJ didn't have a fabulous year; one bad game at the end of the season does nothing to change that imho.
 
No argument at all with your post. Also no argument that RJ had a great season and was a huge part of the team's success. And no argument that he has a high ceiling and may work his way into the NBA.

My only beef is that (and not from you) the "RJ is up there with Mullin and Berry" is just silly. Which you know as well as I do. And after awhile as much as I try to ignore it I can't help but put some context out there for folks who don't seem able to distinguish an apple from an orange.

It's a bit disappointing but totally unsurprising in the modern age that "RJ is not in the same league as Mullin and Ewing" is interpreted as "RJ sucks" but I have given up on the viability of anything other than the most polarized opinions in the modern world.

Did I love every aspect of RJ's game? Clearly not. Do I have a negative word to say about him as a person? Absolutely not. Does he have potential to succeed? Sure does. Is he a threat to make people forget about Michael Jordan? I'm gonna say no.

TBH I don't think any of that should be remotely controversial but here we are.
Have a Blessed Sunday 🙏🏽
 
To compare RJ or almost any Johnnie with names like Ewing, Mullin & Berry is unfair but that doesn't mean RJ didn't have a fabulous year; one bad game at the end of the season does nothing to change that imho.
See that part of your post I agree with 100% and posters have to stop comparing RJ with Mullin , Berry and others. But That is what some continue to do which causes the end less arguments that we should not be having. RJ had a great season with the exception of his last game, but lets face it he sure picked a bad bad time not to listen to his coach or teammates. And lets face it some of our greatest teams that we recall so fondly 30 plus years later are our elite 8 teams of 1991 and 1999 ( I think ) that played together , where the sum was much greatest than the individual parts. Playing team ball lead to fantastic results for which those players Werdann and Buchanan in 1991 , Artest and Barkley in 1999 amongst others, will always be remembered and reveared.
Others like myself, Will always remember RJs last game.
Doesn’t mean he is not a great kid and that I don’t wish him the best.
 
I have to disagree with this. His performance in the second half of the Big East Tournament Championship game showed that RJ is Special. Who else could have scored 27 points in the second half to lead us to the Championship.

The Big East conference was founded in 1979 and no player has scored more points in one half of a Championship game than RJ did against Creighton. That alone speaks to his value. I loved how last year's team came together and respect the talent and contributions of Kadary, Zuby, Aaron, etc, but RJ was that #GUY!!!
Being a great college scorer doesn't make one an NBA player.

Tell me what his NBA level skill he has, obviously it isn't his handle, shot or court vision/awareness. He's all heart and effort. That only gets a kid his size so far, or more likely very far away.
 
See that part of your post I agree with 100% and posters have to stop comparing RJ with Mullin , Berry and others. But That is what some continue to do which causes the end less arguments that we should not be having. RJ had a great season with the exception of his last game, but lets face it he sure picked a bad bad time not to listen to his coach or teammates. And lets face it some of our greatest teams that we recall so fondly 30 plus years later are our elite 8 teams of 1991 and 1999 ( I think ) that played together , where the sum was much greatest than the individual parts. Playing team ball lead to fantastic results for which those players Werdann and Buchanan in 1991 , Artest and Barkley in 1999 amongst others, will always be remembered and reveared.
Others like myself, Will always remember RJs last game.
Doesn’t mean he is not a great kid and that I don’t wish him the best.
Why would you remember RJs last game but not Berry and Mullin's Final Four performance when Georgetown effectively bottled up both of them.

There is no question that Berry and Mullin had more successful collegiate careers, but then it's also fair to categorize Berry's brief NBA career as a failure. But I digress.

The heart of this RJ discussion on here was NEVER about whether RJ was the equal to Berry or Mullin. It was mostly two groups, one which was highly critical of Luis's 2025 season, especially outside shooting, forced shots, and defensive shortcomings. One expert poster even claimed that RJ's best games came against lesser, unathletic teams and that he wilted against faster, athletic players.

I will remember that Luis' last moments on the court for us was making two huge free throws in a close game. One could make a very cogent argument that Pitino was the one who lost his cool by yanking RJ in a moment where he may have played like the 2nd team All American he was. Throw in the fact that Pitino stubbornly did not reinsert Lewis when Khadary fouled out and instead let our fate be decided by Prey and Scott, and again you can make the argument that it was Pitino who blew the game, not RJ.

But, damnit, whether we are comparing RJ to Mullin or Berry, or D'Angelo, Ponds, or David Russell, he is still pretty damned good and was ajoy to watch and root for this season.

Wishing him the best of everything in everything he does in life.
 
I remember when I first started following St Johns, that Troy Bell was playing for BC and I enjoyed watching him. He ended up winning the BE POY twice, but never really even got a shot in the NBA. That was one of my first lessons that some kids are just great college players and it unfortunately doesn't equate to the NBA.

That being said, it does not at all diminish what they accomplish in college.
Being connected rightly or wrongly with BC's point shaving scandal could be a career killer.
 
Being a great college scorer doesn't make one an NBA player.

Tell me what his NBA level skill he has, obviously it isn't his handle, shot or court vision/awareness. He's all heart and effort. That only gets a kid his size so far, or more likely very far away.
Ponds was a great college scorer - how did that translate ?
 
Why would you remember RJs last game but not Berry and Mullin's Final Four performance when Georgetown effectively bottled up both of them.

There is no question that Berry and Mullin had more successful collegiate careers, but then it's also fair to categorize Berry's brief NBA career as a failure. But I digress.

The heart of this RJ discussion on here was NEVER about whether RJ was the equal to Berry or Mullin. It was mostly two groups, one which was highly critical of Luis's 2025 season, especially outside shooting, forced shots, and defensive shortcomings. One expert poster even claimed that RJ's best games came against lesser, unathletic teams and that he wilted against faster, athletic players.

I will remember that Luis' last moments on the court for us was making two huge free throws in a close game. One could make a very cogent argument that Pitino was the one who lost his cool by yanking RJ in a moment where he may have played like the 2nd team All American he was. Throw in the fact that Pitino stubbornly did not reinsert Lewis when Khadary fouled out and instead let our fate be decided by Prey and Scott, and again you can make the argument that it was Pitino who blew the game, not RJ.

But, damnit, whether we are comparing RJ to Mullin or Berry, or D'Angelo, Ponds, or David Russell, he is still pretty damned good and was ajoy to watch and root for this season.

Wishing him the best of everything in everything he does in life.

Great post , BOE! And , I thank you for stepping up , as you did and as Panther did and register a opinion on RJ’s next to last game vs Creighton , where he established a BET record for scoring 27 points in the 2 nd half .

As a matter of fact , for those who misread or misinterpreted my last paragraph in replying to Panther about RJ’s record , I mentioned ONLY that , neither Mullin , Berry or Ewing had achieved that individual game points total .

There is NO Mention of equating RJ to any of those Player’s Careers .
But , for that 1 game he did something that none of them had done .

BOE, you have again raised the point about Pitino seemingly making a very questionable Coaching decision to pull RJ from the final 4:54 minutes of a 4 point game vs Arkansas . Nearly , everyone in the BB fandom , outside of the usual posters here , think Pitino blew the game .
Calipari must have delighted in Rick pulling RJ with the game still in question . You can just imagine what he shared with his Staff after that game with that decision .

RJ had proven , time and again , that he was a Explosive Scorer , 27 points in a 1/2 is explosive by any standard . He could have scored 10 or more points in those last minutes as he had shown in several regular season games . Shooting 3-15 up to that point could have been 8-20 in the last minutes at the final horn . He had that kind of capability .

Who’s to say , he couldn’t have taken over those last minutes and won

the game , playing 2 man BB with Zuby?


Prey , Lefty , Smith , Scott and Zuby weren’t going to win that game and , didn’t .
No one seems to recall that Scott had a horrible game , shooting g 1-10 with a injured hand . Smith had a awful turnover at crunch time .

And , Pitino made a poor decision .
 
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