Predictability and Discipline

[Jack Williams]

Our guys can't shoot, and give away inches all over the floor. This does not call for good out comes. In order to beat a good team that plays well, our guys must play great. Creating turnovers and getting 2ed chance points is a must. Hard to archive while playing it safe. Some games we are going to foul because the other guys are just to good or have to much height all over the court. I have been a Lavin backer, but leaving us without height or shooters hard to take. Dlo gatta play like a power forward, and be clutch down the stretch. a lot to ask.

Disagree. We played pretty damn bad and Dom and Chris both had foul trouble and we stayed with and nearly forced OT against a top 10. As SJU15 said with original post, we are closer to being great than many think

 

[monte]

Our guys can't shoot, and give away inches all over the floor. This does not call for good out comes. In order to beat a good team that plays well, our guys must play great. Creating turnovers and getting 2ed chance points is a must. Hard to archive while playing it safe. Some games we are going to foul because the other guys are just to good or have to much height all over the court. I have been a Lavin backer, but leaving us without height or shooters hard to take. Dlo gatta play like a power forward, and be clutch down the stretch. a lot to ask.

Disagree. We played pretty damn bad and Dom and Chris both had foul trouble and we stayed with and nearly forced OT against a top 10. As SJU15 said with original post, we are closer to being great than many think

I admire your optimism Jack, but "Great!"? We could be a good-very good(borderline top 25) team if things fall in to place, but I'd first like to see a few games in a row of consistent ball against good teams.

 

[Jack Williams]

Our guys can't shoot, and give away inches all over the floor. This does not call for good out comes. In order to beat a good team that plays well, our guys must play great. Creating turnovers and getting 2ed chance points is a must. Hard to archive while playing it safe. Some games we are going to foul because the other guys are just to good or have to much height all over the court. I have been a Lavin backer, but leaving us without height or shooters hard to take. Dlo gatta play like a power forward, and be clutch down the stretch. a lot to ask.

Disagree. We played pretty damn bad and Dom and Chris both had foul trouble and we stayed with and nearly forced OT against a top 10. As SJU15 said with original post, we are closer to being great than many think

I admire your optimism Jack, but "Great!"? We could be a good-very good(borderline top 25) team if things fall in to place, but I'd first like to see a few games in a row of consistent ball against good teams.

I was just saying what SJU15 said in his OP, and he meant great in terms of expectations

 

[SJU1512]

Our guys can't shoot, and give away inches all over the floor. This does not call for good out comes. In order to beat a good team that plays well, our guys must play great. Creating turnovers and getting 2ed chance points is a must. Hard to archive while playing it safe. Some games we are going to foul because the other guys are just to good or have to much height all over the court. I have been a Lavin backer, but leaving us without height or shooters hard to take. Dlo gatta play like a power forward, and be clutch down the stretch. a lot to ask.

Disagree. We played pretty damn bad and Dom and Chris both had foul trouble and we stayed with and nearly forced OT against a top 10. As SJU15 said with original post, we are closer to being great than many think

I admire your optimism Jack, but "Great!"? We could be a good-very good(borderline top 25) team if things fall in to place, but I'd first like to see a few games in a row of consistent ball against good teams.

I was just saying what SJU15 said in his OP, and he meant great in terms of expectations

Yup, think we are all saying the same thing here. If this team cracks the back-end of the Top 25, goes 12-6 in conference, and makes the Tournament that will, for better or worse, be a "great" season relative to expectations.

 

[austour]

Our roster's best chance of winning comes down to getting the other guy sucked into the same undisciplined style that we play. We are not going to beat anyone on the schedule in a shooting contest or by matching half court offenses. This team should be made to watch game films of Hatten's team starting with the Duke win. Within minutes, even disciplined, well coached teams were throwing length of the court passes into the stands.

This team has similarities to Hatten's NIT winning team. D Lo is like Hatten, more scorer than shooter, and rebounds well for his size. We go small up front. So did Hatten's team. The key is getting more field goal attempts than the other guy. A lot more. That comes from offensive rebounding and causing turnovers. Hatten's team was top 5 in both steals and offensive rebounds. This offset their lack of shooting, especially from 3. We may have loftier hopes than a NIT championship. When you can't shoot the basketball, you better figure out another way to achieve those goals.

I said before the season started that we need someone to step up as the money player on this team. A Harvey, Hatten,, Hardy kind of player. Someone who can be counted on to make the right decisions in the big moments. D'lo is certainly the likeliest candidate.

PS they all start with H. Coincidence?

 

[usguard]

I agree with the first two points. Rasheed needs to learn when not to force the drive and kick it out.
But I don't see Chris trying to block everything into the stands. Once maybe twice a game as an intimidation factor but every block -by no means.

He needed to develope an outside shot that is respected by the defense
To date that has not happened

 

[monte]

Our roster's best chance of winning comes down to getting the other guy sucked into the same undisciplined style that we play. We are not going to beat anyone on the schedule in a shooting contest or by matching half court offenses. This team should be made to watch game films of Hatten's team starting with the Duke win. Within minutes, even disciplined, well coached teams were throwing length of the court passes into the stands.

This team has similarities to Hatten's NIT winning team. D Lo is like Hatten, more scorer than shooter, and rebounds well for his size. We go small up front. So did Hatten's team. The key is getting more field goal attempts than the other guy. A lot more. That comes from offensive rebounding and causing turnovers. Hatten's team was top 5 in both steals and offensive rebounds. This offset their lack of shooting, especially from 3. We may have loftier hopes than a NIT championship. When you can't shoot the basketball, you better figure out another way to achieve those goals.

I said before the season started that we need someone to step up as the money player on this team. A Harvey, Hatten,, Hardy kind of player. Someone who can be counted on to make the right decisions in the big moments. D'lo is certainly the likeliest candidate.

PS they all start with H. Coincidence?

Downright eerie

 

[austour]

And of course the natural 5th member of that group of guards who carried their SJ team on their back, Headband!

 

[monte]

And of course the natural 5th member of that group of guards who carried their SJ team on their back, Headband!

? I know it aint Slick Watts.

 

[redken]

Our roster's best chance of winning comes down to getting the other guy sucked into the same undisciplined style that we play. We are not going to beat anyone on the schedule in a shooting contest or by matching half court offenses. This team should be made to watch game films of Hatten's team starting with the Duke win. Within minutes, even disciplined, well coached teams were throwing length of the court passes into the stands.

This team has similarities to Hatten's NIT winning team. D Lo is like Hatten, more scorer than shooter, and rebounds well for his size. We go small up front. So did Hatten's team. The key is getting more field goal attempts than the other guy. A lot more. That comes from offensive rebounding and causing turnovers. Hatten's team was top 5 in both steals and offensive rebounds. This offset their lack of shooting, especially from 3. We may have loftier hopes than a NIT championship. When you can't shoot the basketball, you better figure out another way to achieve those goals.

I said before the season started that we need someone to step up as the money player on this team. A Harvey, Hatten,, Hardy kind of player. Someone who can be counted on to make the right decisions in the big moments. D'lo is certainly the likeliest candidate.

PS they all start with H. Coincidence?

Steve Hurina?