(PRE-GAME) (@MSG) Seton Hall, Sat., Jan. 22, 12 Noon, FS-1

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Paultzman post=451799 said:
St. John's is a 4.5 point underdog tomorrow at MSG v SH
How the heck do you get the odds so early? It's like you have a line to lefty Rosenthal. 
 
Monte post=451802Paultzman post=451799St. John's is a 4.5 point underdog tomorrow at MSG v SH
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Paultzman post=451803 said:
Monte post=451802Paultzman post=451799St. John's is a 4.5 point underdog tomorrow at MSG v SH
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Hahaha
 
Problem is your not all of a sudden going to start shoot really well or getting more offensive rebounds from bigs who do not have that abilty 
Now can they put a single very good game together,Yes but let’s hope SH doesnt
 
 
BrookJersey Redmen post=451670 said:
Massacre at the Mecca.

More Seton Halls fans there than us. SH fans are within a short train ride, and they all love NYC and its delights. Nothing like Newark or South Orange.

Could be ugly, but I'll be rooting for the Johnnies.


Yes, this is true.  I come to the games from Jersey and there are always a ton of SH fans on the train.  I recommend we play the SH game at UBS Arena every year.  It would make a big difference.
 
 
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Must win game we are toast if we lose I’m going with my contrarian indicator. I’m putting my chips on us tomorrow 
 
Paultzman post=451823 said:
St. John’s needs win over rival Seton Hall to keep NCAA tourney hopes alive.

https://nypost.com/2022/01/21/st-johns-needs-win-to-keep-ncaa-tournament-hopes-alive/
Zach is suggesting a smaller lineup, I'd actually like to see them go bigger.  Defensive rebounding has been the biggest issue I've seen. There's been countless times where they'll play good defense and then not get the defensive rebound and other team will just kick out and get an open 3, or they'll foul on the team trying to get the put back because they were out of position.

Lineup I'd like to see start the game is...

Posh
Wusu
Champ
Wheeler
Nyiwe

Bench
Smith
Mathis
Coburn
Stanley
Soriano 

At this point, I have no idea why CMA is still starting with Soriano he's given almost nothing the past 2 games as the starting center, Nyiwe can give those stats he's given, except he's better on his rotations on defense, which is what they really need right now.  Let Stanley come off the bench and play both 4 and 5 spot.  And just have Soriano and Nyiwe getting spot minutes.  Stanley and Wheeler should be out there the majority of the time at the 4 and 5.
 
Paultzman post=451823 said:
St. John’s needs win over rival Seton Hall to keep NCAA tourney hopes alive.

https://nypost.com/2022/01/21/st-johns-needs-win-to-keep-ncaa-tournament-hopes-alive/
Anyone mentioning St Johns and the NCAA tourney in the same sentence is delusional.  Time to face reality.  We are a bottom level big east team.  The thought that we are some really good team who is just playing bad right now is also delusional.  Be prepared to be whupped today.  This is an angry seton hall team who has waaaaay more talent then we do.
 
 
Completely agree Duke.    Watched every game - not impressive at all 

could say new players but too far into the season.    It’s really disappointing in late January not at least thinking could go further
 
Personally hate the matchup for us.

-Size on the inside to make it tough for us on the glass and finishing around the basket. 
- two small guards who love to hoist it up from 3 and are capable of making a hand full. 
- Cale and Rhoden are physical wings who are both really good defenders and will give champ different looks all game. Not to mention Yetna, Jackson and Samuels who bring significant size and athleticism to the table at the 4. 
- Williard playing the team he wants to beat most, off a disappointing and contentious finish, with a full week to prepare for 2 games. 

Its gonna take a really good performance from our guys to win this one today. Can we get Ike in foul trouble? We can’t beat this team if we are forced to take jumpers all game. Fully capable of pulling it off it but I wouldn’t bet on it. 
 
Line down to 2.5. Went SJU getting 6.5 and WV getting 11.5 in teaser. 
 
I'm just glad this is an early game so I don't have all day to worry about it. Hope our guys got an early wake-up call and come out determined and in a nasty mood. It is now or never for any dance hopes.
 
It's been a while since I've been MSG.  Anyone know What time MSG starts serving  alcohol? I think we may need it for this one.  
 
Glad Zach's tone in the article is more urgent. And looking for accountability from top to bottom on a disappointing season so far. 
 
ipd200 post=451864 said:
It's been a while since I've been MSG.  Anyone know What time MSG starts serving  alcohol? I think we may need it for this one.  
You're going to need a 6 pack on the train and then keep drinking when you get to MSG. LOL
 
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