(PRE-GAME) @Butler, Wed., Mar. 4, 7pm, CBS SN, 570AM WMCA

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[quote="James Ray Lamb" post=379700]Let's hope Greg Williams hot shooting streak continues into this game.

The Johnnies have to make 3's to win against Butler.

There's not much else to say. Can the Johnnies pull out another surprise upset? We'll find out this evening. B)[/quote]

I think we’ll have a better chance because of that shooting performance. They won’t be able to sit in the paint all game, and with Roberts out, we will spread the court all game and use our quickness to get into the lane.

Gotta finish layups and knock down open jumpers when presented.

Pull this one out, then Marquette at home looks to be a huge game. Win a couple in the big East tournament, that’s 6-7 quad one wins. Much better than a lot of bubble teams at the moment. Then the NCAA doesn’t look too out of the picture. We won’t be punished for playing in the Big East, especially with the bubble as soft and weak as it is. Our NET will take a substantial jump.
 
[quote="Boo Harvey" post=379706][quote="AlexSTJ" post=379696][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=379692]I know this is silly to even ask, but lets say St Johns wins tonight. What would it take for them to get into the ncaa tourney?

Win tonight, win against marquette, beat gtown in 1st round, beat seton hall in rnd 2 , lose to nova.

Would that get us in?[/quote]

Yes,but tonight's game will be the hardest to overcome. I can definitely see us beating the the other 3 games you mentioned.[/quote]

Yeah, no problem winning back to back games in BE Tournament, including a win over the best team in the league. LOL. We need to win the BE Tournament to dance[/quote]

So if we beat Butler, Marquette, Gtwon, Seton hall, Villanova and then lost in the BET final, you do not think we get in?

i know it is ridiculous to talk about, but if we win the next 2, we do not have to win the BET to get in.
 
[quote="Boo Harvey" post=379706][quote="AlexSTJ" post=379696][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=379692]I know this is silly to even ask, but lets say St Johns wins tonight. What would it take for them to get into the ncaa tourney?

Win tonight, win against marquette, beat gtown in 1st round, beat seton hall in rnd 2 , lose to nova.

Would that get us in?[/quote]

Yes,but tonight's game will be the hardest to overcome. I can definitely see us beating the the other 3 games you mentioned.[/quote]

Yeah, no problem winning back to back games in BE Tournament, including a win over the best team in the league. LOL. We need to win the BE Tournament to dance[/quote]

We lost to Gtown and Seton Hall by a combined 4 points at the Garden. SJU can beat them.
 
Fox Sports Go has 3 big East games tonight. St John's isn't one of them. That sucks. :eek:hmy:

I'll just check Google for the score.
 
Forget games after this--this is the only one that matters as CMA would say no looking ahead. As noted above Figgy was non existent in the 1st game--Foul trouble, NO points No rebounds and NO steals. Also team was adjusting to no Heron. We have grown since that game, and better understand the roles and hopefully it shows on the court. Nick and David started on 12/31, now both off the bench with Dunn and Williams starting. We must rebound better this game--how bad was the first game, Damien led the team in rebounds with 4.
 
[quote="James Ray Lamb" post=379767]Fox Sports Go has 3 big East games tonight. St John's isn't one of them. That sucks. :eek:hmy:

I'll just check Google for the score.[/quote]

They can't show it, because it's on CBS SN.

Here's a better one:

Saturday's game isn't even on live in NYC. Yes Network is showing it on tape delay at 10:30 PM (it's a FSN game, so YES has the rights, and they are showing the Yankees at 1:00). It should be on the Fox Sports Go app though, and if you get stations from other markets, I'm sure they will have it.
 
[quote="Big Red" post=379714][quote="James Ray Lamb" post=379700]Let's hope Greg Williams hot shooting streak continues into this game.

The Johnnies have to make 3's to win against Butler.

There's not much else to say. Can the Johnnies pull out another surprise upset? We'll find out this evening. B)[/quote]

I think we’ll have a better chance because of that shooting performance. They won’t be able to sit in the paint all game, and with Roberts out, we will spread the court all game and use our quickness to get into the lane.

Gotta finish layups and knock down open jumpers when presented.

Pull this one out, then Marquette at home looks to be a huge game. Win a couple in the big East tournament, that’s 6-7 quad one wins. Much better than a lot of bubble teams at the moment. Then the NCAA doesn’t look too out of the picture. We won’t be punished for playing in the Big East, especially with the bubble as soft and weak as it is. Our NET will take a substantial jump.[/quote]

Did I miss something? Is Roberts definitely out?
 
[quote="AlexSTJ" post=379720][quote="Boo Harvey" post=379706][quote="AlexSTJ" post=379696][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=379692]I know this is silly to even ask, but lets say St Johns wins tonight. What would it take for them to get into the ncaa tourney?

Win tonight, win against marquette, beat gtown in 1st round, beat seton hall in rnd 2 , lose to nova.

Would that get us in?[/quote]

Yes,but tonight's game will be the hardest to overcome. I can definitely see us beating the the other 3 games you mentioned.[/quote]

Yeah, no problem winning back to back games in BE Tournament, including a win over the best team in the league. LOL. We need to win the BE Tournament to dance[/quote]

We lost to Gtown and Seton Hall by a combined 4 points at the Garden. SJU can beat them.[/quote]

We lost to Seton Hall the second time by 20 points. Seton Hall is a much better team than when we played them the first time. One of their best players is back. We arguably played over our heads the first game and Heron is out.

Anything is possible, but the likelihood of us winning two games in the BE Tournament is extremely low.

I'd be thrilled with a split over the next two games, a win over GTown, and a competitive game against Seton Hall. Could be good enough for the NIT and would preserve Anderson's streak of no losing seasons.
 
[quote="Big Red" post=379714][quote="James Ray Lamb" post=379700]Let's hope Greg Williams hot shooting streak continues into this game.

The Johnnies have to make 3's to win against Butler.

There's not much else to say. Can the Johnnies pull out another surprise upset? We'll find out this evening. B)[/quote]

I think we’ll have a better chance because of that shooting performance. They won’t be able to sit in the paint all game, and with Roberts out, we will spread the court all game and use our quickness to get into the lane.

Gotta finish layups and knock down open jumpers when presented.

Pull this one out, then Marquette at home looks to be a huge game. Win a couple in the big East tournament, that’s 6-7 quad one wins. Much better than a lot of bubble teams at the moment. Then the NCAA doesn’t look too out of the picture. We won’t be punished for playing in the Big East, especially with the bubble as soft and weak as it is. Our NET will take a substantial jump.[/quote]

Not getting an at large bid with at best six conference wins. This is fantasy.
 
If I'm not mistaken, we have never won at Hinkle Fieldhouse since Butler joined the Big East, with most of the games being complete blow outs. I hope we can change that fate soon.
 
[quote="SJU14" post=379775]If I'm not mistaken, we have never won at Hinkle Fieldhouse since Butler joined the Big East, with most of the games being complete blow outs. I hope we can change that fate soon.[/quote]
We did win a game in 2014 the team with Sampson and jordan
 
This is it. We win this and our ncaa hopes are still alive. This is a big game.

Im hoping the duke tets another chance to start. He really blew his opportunity to shine with some silly fouls in the early going. Lets go duke!!!!
 
Scouting Report. 3's are key to defeating Butler.
[URL]https://www.rumbleinthegarden....ns-vs-butler-pregame-how-to-watch-tv-scouting[/URL]
Once in the top 10, the Butler Bulldogs have fell to the edges of the ranked world. They should still be an NCAA Tournament team — their last win over DePaul, plus their early body of work should ensure that.

But their defense, while solid and prepared, allows a heavy dose of three-point shooting. Coupled with their lack of desire to force steals, Butler can have a lot of defensive variance — based on whether opponents are hitting shots. When they hold a team to 4/22 from beyond the arc, like they did to St. John’s, they win. When teams shoot in the 30s, it’s less of a sure thing for Butler in Big East play.

The Bulldogs have dealt with injury issues; Smits has missed the last four games with a knee issue, while forward Christian David, who made the game-winning shot against St. John’s at the end of December, is out for the season with an ACL injury.
 
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[quote="Paultzman" post=379781]As expected, Josh Roberts (shoulder) is out tonight[/quote]

Correct. The steere returning is not a coincidence.
 
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