(POST GAME) (MSG) Villanova, Tue., Feb. 8 , 8:30p, FS-1
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Nova plays superb fundamental basketball,we don’t .Thus they win consistently with 6 man rotation.We out assist them last nite but they still win.
1)They whip passes around perimeter Until open shot. Their passes have direction
2)No one EVER takes a shot without one or two pump fakes
3) When one on one ,they will pivot multiple times and directions for an open look, more efficiency
4) Always a cutter to basket
5)They crash offensive boards
6) They always hustle and are physical and Athletic
So even though they are more efficient shooting team than us, all of above give them an advantage over us to create better looks and easier baskets. Many of our baskets are difficult,unless off a turnover.Against a talented disciplined team we have trouble stealing the ball. We don’t create enough easy shots in the half court,this many layup misses.
1)They whip passes around perimeter Until open shot. Their passes have direction
2)No one EVER takes a shot without one or two pump fakes
3) When one on one ,they will pivot multiple times and directions for an open look, more efficiency
4) Always a cutter to basket
5)They crash offensive boards
6) They always hustle and are physical and Athletic
So even though they are more efficient shooting team than us, all of above give them an advantage over us to create better looks and easier baskets. Many of our baskets are difficult,unless off a turnover.Against a talented disciplined team we have trouble stealing the ball. We don’t create enough easy shots in the half court,this many layup misses.
NCJohnnie post=456577 said:
Coburn couldn't buy a basket last night.
Wheeler couldn't miss.
It was like the end of the Indiana game, you want Julian taking that shot. The play/exchange was a mess but I wanted no one else taking that shot because Julian was out best bet.
It was like when Dale Norman drew up the last section shot with Jimmy Chitwood as the decoy. Hell no. You give Jimmy the ball at Hinkle and you let it fly.
And of course, the last shot didn't cost us the game last night. We lost the game in the 35 preceeding minutes of putrid play.
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Fred Solomon post=456593 said:
Also,refs no doubt let Nova get away with lots of fouls. We never get a break against most opponents re foul calls. Not sure why. Also, except for last two games , our foul shooting has been abysmal. No excuse for that.So if you agree with my analysis about Nova fundamentals better than ours and our abysmal foul shooting, you can see a clear strategic coaching path that we are missing out on from our staff.We should NOT ever take shots without pump fakes and when creating inside position use our bodies more and misdirection fakes before committing to a shot. Passing needs to consistently have more purpose, not only occasionally. This all equals up to discipline by players, practiced and enforced by coaches!
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SMH at this. We do all the same things (except maybe the pump fakes which isn't necessarily material). The difference is the talent to hit shots. We get plenty of good looks and good shots and we don't make them as well as the best shooting teams.Fred Solomon post=456593 said:
I am not mad at the game last night. The team fought back and Nova didn't know what hit them the final 3 minutes. We still need to practice free throws. Champ is not going to the NBA anytime soon, he is better off coming back. Wheeler kept us in the game. Decent SJU crowd at the garden. We still don't have any consistent shooters to rely on. Take away any 1-2 mistakes we made last night and we would have had the W.
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Their guys ALL push off to create space on jump shots and definitely driving to the hoop.Fred Solomon post=456599 said:
Not blaming the loss on Coburn's last shot but based on the situation (which includes all factors, hot hand, whose on the court, clock etc) think it should have went to Wheeler or at least made an attempt to go that way. And I didn't say he bricked that particular shot but he did earlier ones.RedStormNC post=456581 said:
No, the loss falls on everyone (except maybe Wheeler).
- Bad shooting from 3, zero footers, foul line and all points in between (except Wheeler)
- Bad coaching. Anderson waited too long to sit Mathis. Sometimes you need to sit someone to slow it down for them or allow them to see what is going on when they are strongly. Sometimes you need to do so because they are trying to do too much and are stepping out of their line. Sometimes you just need to do so because they are being disruptive to what you are trying to do on the court. You can pick any one of those three concerning Mathis last night but the bottom line Anderson stayed with him much too long ( I kept yelling from my seat to sit him).
- Could be part of the above but Mathis himself. Another poster pointed out that after that ill advised move under the basket, Anderson finally got someone up the take Mathis out at the next whistle. Next time down the court Mathis attempts an ill advised three. At best it was a dumb shot at worst it was in spite of the coach about to take him out or just trying to get his. Either way was not a good look IMHO.
- We still can't finish inside and everyone missed zero footers or layups (even Wheels missed one) last night except for Nywie (who didn't shoot) and Stanley (who was fouled). This is not including the ones that were blocked by weak side or behind help. That is leaving too many points on the board.
- Interior defense was poor as we had problems all night with postups
- I don't read Anderson's quotes on games because it is just more coach speak dribble and after losses it is the same old nonsense but am I mistaken or was there a post here about not coming out with the right intensity? If true, how does that happen on your home court against a top 20 team when you are fighting for credibility and the post season? If he can't motivate then that is on him and maybe its time to hang it up.
- The not having a backup PG which many thought would be a problem definitely is. Dylan sees the court and tries to make plays for others and can. But he also sees things no one else does leading to poor decisions overall and makes up his mind where he pass is going to go even if its covered. We saw it again last night. Smith can't create for others and you just hope he can make the simple play at the point. While I am not as high on Pinzone being this do all guard some people seem to think he is (a good shooter and can run the point), I definitely think he would be the better option (to add, I think he will be a fine player, he's just not what people think he is yet).
First of all , in my opinion , last year’s Team wins the game last night . Sure , it’s a dream but , not a nightmare like the loss last night . Wheeler has been a great addition and picked up the slack that Champ’s injuries caused last night . In Julian’s defense , not his on Defense which is pretty bad but , he had 2 injuries during the game that likely would have many players on the Bench , next to Posh . The jammed finger and then , the WWE body slam , took a enormous toll on his whole effort . And , he did try to gut it out ! So , Wheeler put on his Superman suit and offset Champ’s sub par game . But , our shooting was dismal , awful , bad , not at a BE or CYO second graders game . And ,, it’s been a Season long malady . Smith has struggled at this level but , has been a yo yo in CMA’s often bizarre rotations all year . And , for a guy who came in as a Sharpshooter , he’s underperformed . Some of that is the CMA offense which is weak bordering on inept . I agree that Coburn was cold as a Lake Placid bobsled event but , he got a clean look , put up a good Shot but , didn’t drop . The way we played for 36 minutes decided our fate , not the last 10 seconds ! Besides , like Smith , Anderson hasn’t given Coburn a lot of game action all year , which asks the question why ? Especially with Mathis hoisting up 14 ill advised shots , bunnies , missed dunks , etc . CMA has to be blind to his Rotations which have been Inconsistent . Mathis Defense doesn’t offset his offense . In the first half , the Nova guys Moore , SlaterSamuels Caleb and especially Dixon beat us like a toy drum . They were too quick off the dribble or , too strong in the paint . Gillespie was a shell of himself due to injury . More like a decoy .
Our Recruiting efforts need to bring in BE caliber players every year . Other than Champ , Posh , Wheeler , we are short in that talent level . And , it shows in games like this . We need a Roster full of BE talent , not 3 players .
Our Recruiting efforts need to bring in BE caliber players every year . Other than Champ , Posh , Wheeler , we are short in that talent level . And , it shows in games like this . We need a Roster full of BE talent , not 3 players .
Won the seat upgrade at the Garden last night . Ended up in second row behind basket next to Nova bench Tyrone Grant was in the row in front . Should have kept our regular seats in sect 118 because of view of the floor and loud shirtless Johnny fans in row behind us . When I was at SJU ( 62-67 ) I would have been one of the shirtless guys along with Birdman bill Davidson . On another subject , it seemed like the 3 second rule was suspended for Nova last night . Anyone tape the game ? If you did could you check this out .
All of them. As do many other players today. And not just in the halfcourt, guys push off in the backcourt all the time now and it's never called. There has been a lot of speculation about how the three-point line effects pressing teams and makes pressing less effective. No disagreement here I do think it is a modern factor. I also think it's very detrimental for pressing teams that ballhandlers can just shove anyone guarding them away. It's a lot harder to steal the ball when you are constantly getting forearms in your chest. As that is now how the game is called you have to adapt to it, but it's sure different.Beast of the East post=456603 said:
Actually, I want to take the ball to the rim and keep the pressure on. IIRC, we had over 20 seconds left when the possession began. More than enough time to try to get a quick two and make them face the full court pressure again. we had all the momentum and they were on their heels.SJU85 post=456567 said:
Wheeler was fouled on his follow through on his last 3 point make. Should have had the opportunity for a 4 point play.
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I think you see a better game slightly elevated than being on the floor. IMO near halfcourt elevated and close to court is best.matt105 post=456607 said:
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jsk68/73 post=456628 said: