Please do not Post Articles That are Restricted

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When I logged on early this morning the site was down.
I contacted Paul’s sons shortly there after and received a response from them that someone had posted an article which émanâted from a pay wall which culminâted in the company that hosts the site taking it down.
We All know we are not permitted to post restricted articles. Lets not have this occur again.
And I hope there were no third party fees the boys had to pay to restor the site.
 
And while we all like free stuff let’s keep it to happy hour drinks and not here
 
Some self-policing by the board might help the situation, so that the moderators don't always have to be on high alert.

1. Don't quote an entire article. A paragraph, maybe two, should suffice.

2. Be aware that you might be subscribing to some content that is behind a paywall, and probably should sum up the relevant points and not quote it at all. (I don't have this problem because I'm a cheapskate and don't subscribe to anything.)

3. If you read a post on this board from someone else who quoted too much of an article, click the "Report" link in the bottom left corner of that post and let the moderators know.
 
Some self-policing by the board might help the situation, so that the moderators don't always have to be on high alert.

1. Don't quote an entire article. A paragraph, maybe two, should suffice.

2. Be aware that you might be subscribing to some content that is behind a paywall, and probably should sum up the relevant points and not quote it at all. (I don't have this problem because I'm a cheapskate and don't subscribe to anything.)

3. If you read a post on this board from someone else who quoted too much of an article, click the "Report" link in the bottom left corner of that post and let the moderators know.
Just so I’m clear, there is no issue with attaching an article that is not behind a paywall like from ESPN or the free portion of the NY Post is there?
 
Just so I’m clear, there is no issue with attaching an article that is not behind a paywall like from ESPN or the free portion of the NY Post is there?
You can post a link to anything besides porn and hate speech. ;)

It's more about what you copy and paste into a post in that it allows viewers to read content to which they otherwise would not be privy to without payment from pay-walled sites. In theory free content can also be copyrighted and a site could claim sharing that in total deducts from their ad revenue but I think that is much less likely. But I guess best practice is to post a summary of what you read and a link.
 
You can post a link to anything besides porn and hate speech. ;)

It's more about what you copy and paste into a post in that it allows viewers to read content to which they otherwise would not be privy to without payment from pay-walled sites. In theory free content can also be copyrighted and a site could claim sharing that in total deducts from their ad revenue but I think that is much less likely. But I guess best practice is to post a summary of what you read and a link.
Thanks. Occasionally I will post a link to a Post or ESPN article I think might be of interest and I will generally let the article speak for itself. Just wanted to be sure mods were ok with that.
 
You can’t steal copyrighted articles.
It was a joke.

Do you remember this that was spoken during every Mets broadcast? I memorized it.

"Any publication, reproduction, or other use of the pictures, descriptions, or accounts of this game without the express written consent of the NY Mets is prohibited."

Other use makes it pretty broad, no?

Yes, you cannot publish an article online in it's entirety, especially those that are paid content.

Ever use Napster?

Actually I wouldn't be shocked if it was a local journalist who makes his living off paid content, from reporting this violation that occurred here.

Of course it's hypocritical to an extent - they lurk here for creative ideas because they lack creatibity, for inside information shared about a player, coach, or program, because they don't work hard enough or lack their own resouces within the program, then republish it as paid content.

I get their point. Newspapers slashed their staffs long ago, jettisoning well kmown and talented sports journalists because of sagging newspaper and magazine sales. When was the last time i bought a phydicsl newspaper? Other than local out east subscriptions, years ago. I've canceled my nytimes, newsday, and wsj periodically. Why? Because i can get information free, on line.

So maybe we should ban links to all content, including that behind firewalls. Those links are essentially advertisements where each click is of value to the owner of the article.

Essentially, most of the crap behind firewalls is just opinion anyways.

It's a pain in the ass policing this stuff, because shutting down a popular fan site that Paul's kids run (in the red) as a memorial to their dad over content that literally almost no.one here would pay for, is a little crazy. Napster anyone?

Essentially, napster gave way to itunes and apps like amazon music, and ended record sales.

Mindless rants. Yes, you cannot republish copyrighted material.
 
Three words:

Link and summarize
Of course you follow the rules:

1) support the team and school and be objectively critical if you must.
2) be positive about our players
3) don't threaten other users if you don't like what they have to say.
4) Follow site rules.

This is not a discussion about whether or not the rule is valid. The law is the law.

One of my two attorneys is a brilliant Sju law review attorney. One generation down his son went to Princeton and my attorney is just as smart. The other attorney is Harvard law guy, a partner at Dentons. They've represented me all these years because besides being top of their class smart, and brilliant legal minds, they possess ethics and morals that are impeccable. They'd stand out in any field but are sometimes difficult to find. I stray tho.

I once asked the sju atty why St. John's had the highest bar pass rate in New York of any Law school in the U.S. He quickly answered, "At St. John's they teach the law - period. At Harvard classroom time is spent debating the merits of the law. Try that at St Johns and you will gst shutdown right away."

I would very much think that the complaint lodged that caused a shutdown here was specifically by an author whose content is specific to St John’s fans. Therefore posting an article about St John's specifically that's behind a firewall is giving away the article to his target audience - namely us. I very much doubt that a national concern would be very interested in shutting down our site over an article that was read here by a few dozen readers.

Having said that, I know thete are law firms that possess software to troll the internet looking for copyright infringements, movie clips and songs. They don't waste their time on private instagram accounts for the most part and go after those they can extract liquidated damages from.

Bottom line. Don't post copyrighted material.

Postscript to bottom line: if the complaint was lodged by a local beat writer over his own content, contacting mods would have been the way to go. This was a bush league move if the complainant bypassed the mods.
 
He couldn't even make his Username three words.
Most likely the greatest speech in American history, The Gettysburg Address, was just 272 words. It was received to a meager smattering of applause, and Lincoln thought it a failure. When a priest goes on and on in a homily, if I'm friendly enough I remind him of Lincoln's efficiency with words.

On that note, Hemingway asserted that F. Scott Fitzgerald's "The Great Gatsby" was the greatest American novel because of its efficiency with words. It had 47,000 words and between 180-210 pages.

Woefully long winded, I'm aiming for the Great Gatsby, though the Gettysburg address efficiency may be too high a bar.

In the meantime, thank you for enjoying the brilliant informative content I provide. 😉
 
Most likely the greatest speech in American history, The Gettysburg Address, was just 272 words…

Woefully long winded, I'm aiming for the Great Gatsby, though the Gettysburg address efficiency may be too high a bar.

272 words?! Who has time for that?

Dr. Seuss wrote Green Eggs and Ham after accepting a $50 bet from his editor that he couldn't write a children's book using only 50 distinct words.

The Beatles song "Love Me Do" uses only 19 distinct words, which is impressive for a radio hit that isn't a mostly instrumental novelty, like "Tequila".

You mentioned Ernest Hemingway, and while he's often connected to the 6-word short story "For Sale: Baby Shoes, Never Worn", he didn't write it.
 
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