manhatten had larry lembo, a very good player who thereafter had a long career as a college basketball referee.
If I recall correctly he used to kick his rear-end when he took a long J. Sort of like Dick Barnett (Dick Barnett, right?)
Around the time Barry Kramer was at NYU Columbia came along with a pretty good team led by Jim(?) McMillan - I remember we were playing them in the Garden and some Columbia kid (probably dating a SJU girl) was sitting in our student section and our fans were throwing around his freshman beanie ( Freshman beabies - now that's old!) I thought pretty soon they were going to start throwing the kid around[/quote
Manhatten had decent teams; we had some competitive games with them. Even St.Francis played us tough.
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manhatten had larry lembo, a very good player who thereafter had a long career as a college basketball referee.
If I recall correctly he used to kick his rear-end when he took a long J. Sort of like Dick Barnett (Dick Barnett, right?)
Around the time Barry Kramer was at NYU Columbia came along with a pretty good team led by Jim(?) McMillan - I remember we were playing them in the Garden and some Columbia kid (probably dating a SJU girl) was sitting in our student section and our fans were throwing around his freshman beanie ( Freshman beabies - now that's old!) I thought pretty soon they were going to start throwing the kid around
Manhatten had decent teams; we had some competitive games with them. Even St.Francis played us tough.
I scouted Larry Lembo for Lapchick and Louie. After my recommendation, Louie, our moderator and myself had dinner at his house, ready to sign him up. Louie grabbed him by the neck and told him not to let us down. Of course, Larry said he wouldn't. We went to the garden to scout West Virginia; that was the game one of N.Y.U. players was throwing the game. Larry eventually went to Manhatten because the Irish Brothers (Bishop Loughlin) harassed him, at least that's what he claimed. Too bad for us, especially since he was an excellent baseball player as well.
manhatten had larry lembo, a very good player who thereafter had a long career as a college basketball referee.
If I recall correctly he used to kick his rear-end when he took a long J. Sort of like Dick Barnett (Dick Barnett, right?)
Around the time Barry Kramer was at NYU Columbia came along with a pretty good team led by Jim(?) McMillan - I remember we were playing them in the Garden and some Columbia kid (probably dating a SJU girl) was sitting in our student section and our fans were throwing around his freshman beanie ( Freshman beabies - now that's old!) I thought pretty soon they were going to start throwing the kid around
Manhatten had decent teams; we had some competitive games with them. Even St.Francis played us tough.
I scouted Larry Lembo for Lapchick and Louie. After my recommendation, Louie, our moderator and myself had dinner at his house, ready to sign him up. Louie grabbed him by the neck and told him not to let us down. Of course, Larry said he wouldn't. We went to the garden to scout West Virginia; that was the game one of N.Y.U. players was throwing the game. Larry eventually went to Manhatten because the Irish Brothers (Bishop Loughlin) harassed him, at least that's what he claimed. Too bad for us, especially since he was an excellent baseball player as well.
Great piece of St. John's history, Jack. Never heard anything about that before. I was pretty young at the time, but I remember Larry Lembo being a household name in NYC basketball ... well, at least in households that followed college basketball ... and I never saw him reffing a game without recalling his time at Manhattan and how big a name he was at the time.
P.S. This has been a great thread for us geezers.
i was 17 when i saw lembo play and kramer as well. i am 69 next week. thats tough enough without being called a geezer. lol.manhatten had larry lembo, a very good player who thereafter had a long career as a college basketball referee.
If I recall correctly he used to kick his rear-end when he took a long J. Sort of like Dick Barnett (Dick Barnett, right?)
Around the time Barry Kramer was at NYU Columbia came along with a pretty good team led by Jim(?) McMillan - I remember we were playing them in the Garden and some Columbia kid (probably dating a SJU girl) was sitting in our student section and our fans were throwing around his freshman beanie ( Freshman beabies - now that's old!) I thought pretty soon they were going to start throwing the kid around
Manhatten had decent teams; we had some competitive games with them. Even St.Francis played us tough.
I scouted Larry Lembo for Lapchick and Louie. After my recommendation, Louie, our moderator and myself had dinner at his house, ready to sign him up. Louie grabbed him by the neck and told him not to let us down. Of course, Larry said he wouldn't. We went to the garden to scout West Virginia; that was the game one of N.Y.U. players was throwing the game. Larry eventually went to Manhatten because the Irish Brothers (Bishop Loughlin) harassed him, at least that's what he claimed. Too bad for us, especially since he was an excellent baseball player as well.
Great piece of St. John's history, Jack. Never heard anything about that before. I was pretty young at the time, but I remember Larry Lembo being a household name in NYC basketball ... well, at least in households that followed college basketball ... and I never saw him reffing a game without recalling his time at Manhattan and how big a name he was at the time.
P.S. This has been a great thread for us geezers.
in the one year kramer played for the knicks he scored 15 points v, oscar robertson as part of the jewish backcourt of kramer and art heyman from duke. after one year in the nba kramer retired and went to law school.i was 17 when i saw lembo play and kramer as well. i am 69 next week. thats tough enough without being called a geezer. lol.manhatten had larry lembo, a very good player who thereafter had a long career as a college basketball referee.
If I recall correctly he used to kick his rear-end when he took a long J. Sort of like Dick Barnett (Dick Barnett, right?)
Around the time Barry Kramer was at NYU Columbia came along with a pretty good team led by Jim(?) McMillan - I remember we were playing them in the Garden and some Columbia kid (probably dating a SJU girl) was sitting in our student section and our fans were throwing around his freshman beanie ( Freshman beabies - now that's old!) I thought pretty soon they were going to start throwing the kid around
Manhatten had decent teams; we had some competitive games with them. Even St.Francis played us tough.
I scouted Larry Lembo for Lapchick and Louie. After my recommendation, Louie, our moderator and myself had dinner at his house, ready to sign him up. Louie grabbed him by the neck and told him not to let us down. Of course, Larry said he wouldn't. We went to the garden to scout West Virginia; that was the game one of N.Y.U. players was throwing the game. Larry eventually went to Manhatten because the Irish Brothers (Bishop Loughlin) harassed him, at least that's what he claimed. Too bad for us, especially since he was an excellent baseball player as well.
Great piece of St. John's history, Jack. Never heard anything about that before. I was pretty young at the time, but I remember Larry Lembo being a household name in NYC basketball ... well, at least in households that followed college basketball ... and I never saw him reffing a game without recalling his time at Manhattan and how big a name he was at the time.
P.S. This has been a great thread for us geezers.
i saw lembo play for manhattan at the same 64-65 holiday festival where we beat michigan.
kramer ended his pro career with the nets. he did go on to law school and became a judge.
art heyman was a legend out in long island where i lived at the time. i remember when he was at duke (reading about it) he got into a big fistfight with larry brown and donnie walsh of north carolina...taking both on at the same time..
he was a top rookie with the knicks...but got into fights with them too so they shipped him out. i don't remember where.
kramer ended his pro career with the nets. he did go on to law school and became a judge.
art heyman was a legend out in long island where i lived at the time. i remember when he was at duke (reading about it) he got into a big fistfight with larry brown and donnie walsh of north carolina...taking both on at the same time..
he was a top rookie with the knicks...but got into fights with them too so they shipped him out. i don't remember where.