Next Year, what if .....

I would love to see Ponds and Heron leave after this year because it would probably mean that we had a very good season. A successful season would help our recruiting going forward. This would show that we can get players to the next level, which is what they all aspire to.
We talk on here about staff needing to see the big picture and recruit better. Winning makes recruiting a lot easier. So let's just keep rooting for our team, pray they are successful, and the rest will take care of itself.
 
Heron has not looked like a first round pick in this year's NBA draft
He should come back next year and "be the man" to improve his draft stock IMO
 
[quote="panther2" post=320958]I would love to see Ponds and Heron leave after this year because it would probably mean that we had a very good season. A successful season would help our recruiting going forward. This would show that we can get players to the next level, which is what they all aspire to.
We talk on here about staff needing to see the big picture and recruit better. Winning makes recruiting a lot easier. So let's just keep rooting for our team, pray they are successful, and the rest will take care of itself.[/quote]

Which is why the Georgetown game made me so sick. I was thinking this year we got more talent coming in this year, it has to be different then all of the past years, and we'll be doing really good things this year.
Then Georgetown comes in at 2-4, and I'm thinking ok we'll get to 500 before going on that tough trip. Then we took a crap and lost to freaking G-Town??????
I'll admit after that game I'm thinking yeah we're done, just another year of the same old bs. I'm like nah wtf would a 5* like Precious want to come to this?
Go to Duke and lose by 30, but hey crap happens sometimes. They win the 2 more important game (conf games), both being on the road, that showed me these kids have fight in them still. Showed that they want to make a different ending this year. Lets go get 6 straight, screw settling for 5 out of 6. Gotta beat Pc and Butler at home, Vs. Nova - we beat them last year @ Nova and had them again @ Nova before choking that away, @ PC - see what Georgetown did @PC last night.. SHU comes to MSG, we won at their place before that POS Stephens took it away, then X comes in. I'd love to see 11-5 after this stretch, and that would put Precious on notice(SJU won 8 straight conf games, maybe mullin and staff actually know what they're doing)
We gotta get to the ncaa and make it to the 2nd week before even thinking that Precious would come here, but if he did that would make the 19 class 1000% great, even him alone would.
 
Don't think it's "negative" but certainly alarming. Other fanbases know how thin we are and want to take advantage. That being said, I really hope Heron stays one more year so we can pair him with Mack, Williams, and Wright. Keita, Steere, and Manuel should at worst balance us with bigger teams and take their height advantage away. Didn't realize but Manuel is a legitimate 6'10 and he has videos working a lot on back to basket moves which is nice to see. Plus we have Fig back which is massive. With Heron back, we may be able to sneak in the top 5 in conference and possibly compete for a bid. Looks like we may be much more of an inside-scoring team next year.
 
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[quote="panther2" post=320958]I would love to see Ponds and Heron leave after this year because it would probably mean that we had a very good season. A successful season would help our recruiting going forward. This would show that we can get players to the next level, which is what they all aspire to.
We talk on here about staff needing to see the big picture and recruit better. Winning makes recruiting a lot easier. So let's just keep rooting for our team, pray they are successful, and the rest will take care of itself.[/quote] Heron and Ponds leaving will help us if they are going to the NBA, not if they bolt for Europe.
 
[quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=320967][quote="panther2" post=320958]I would love to see Ponds and Heron leave after this year because it would probably mean that we had a very good season. A successful season would help our recruiting going forward. This would show that we can get players to the next level, which is what they all aspire to.
We talk on here about staff needing to see the big picture and recruit better. Winning makes recruiting a lot easier. So let's just keep rooting for our team, pray they are successful, and the rest will take care of itself.[/quote] Heron and Ponds leaving will help us if they are going to the NBA, not if they bolt for Europe.[/quote]

Screw that. Ponds wtf is one more year kid, think you can handle just one more freaking year of going to class?
You made it through 3 years though you didn't want to.
we'll have some big boys (finally) to help you.

If Ponds choose to man up and say yeah f it, what's one more freaking year of going to class.
I think next year would be a special year, Heron would most likely return too.
Atleast a F4 team? Yeah I know it's a pipe dream and Ponds wants to get funds rolling in.
But damn, yeah what if right Knight?
 
Does anyone have any idea what kind of contract Ponds could immediately attract if he chooses to play overseas? Do you generally have to prove your value over some time to make serious money? Don't know too much about the Euro scene.
 
Agree panther2. Winning generates excitement, ‘proves’ relevancy, and attracts top recruits.
And winning big in NYC heightens the positive impact.
Let’s dig down and sweep our remaining home games, plus grab a ‘road’ win...(or being greedy, 2).
 
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Reading all these posts one can come to a sense or feel or vision, here’s mine:

We’ve had up and mainly down years
FOR DECADES.
This is one of our best teams right here and now with a good opportunity to play through March right here and now.
And next year bodes well as both our play and recruiting are on the upswing - (yeah I know for some NO CREDIT goes to Coach Mullin).
So I’ll enjoy this day, this week, this Providence game. I know in my ( yes Hamlet was a Johnnies’ fan lol) heart of hearts we’ll accumulate at least 3-4 more Ws ( I’m not greedy) putting us over 20 and in the top half of the BE.
The NCAAs will come a calling...but for now...beat the hell out of The Friars!
all the best
 
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Reading all these posts one can come to a sense or feel or vision, here’s mine:

We’ve had up and mainly down years
FOR DECADES.
This is one of our best teams right here and now with a good opportunity to play through March right here and now.
And next year bodes well as both our play and recruiting are on the upswing - (yeah I know for some NO CREDIT goes to Coach Mullin).
So I’ll enjoy this day, this week, this Providence game. I know in my ( yes Hamlet was a Johnnies’ fan lol) heart of hearts we’ll accumulate at least 3-4 more Ws ( I’m not greedy) putting us over 20 and in the top half of the BE.
The NCAAs will come a calling...but for now...beat the hell out of The Friars!
all the best

Sorry for duplicate...maybe it’s the basketball gods telling me we will reach the 20/ NCAA twin kill.
 
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Reading all these posts one can come to a sense or feel or vision, here’s mine:

We’ve had up and mainly down years
FOR DECADES.
This is one of our best teams right here and now with a good opportunity to play through March right here and now.
And next year bodes well as both our play and recruiting are on the upswing - (yeah I know for some NO CREDIT goes to Coach Mullin).
So I’ll enjoy this day, this week, this Prividence game. I know in my ( yes Hamlet was a Johnnies’ fan lol) heart of hearts we’ll accumulate at least 3-4 more Ws ( I’m not greedy) putting us over 20 and in the top half of the BE.
The NCAAs will come a calling...but for now...beat the hell out of The Friars!
all the best
 
SS&G, having one too many??

Ponds wanted to leave after last year; he's gone drafted on not, I personally think if he is not drafted, then he gets an NBA invite anyway and makes a team, he is too good not to.

A poor man's Kemba Walker.
 
[quote="MBaldi" post=320950]Sorry, respectfully, I don’t understand the need for such a post (one injury away from season over). One could say this in many contexts, including outside of college basketballl. I could get hit by a car this afternoon, but negative thought that does not do me any good.[/quote]

I'm just keeping it real dude. I'm not saying is likely or will ever happen. But if you don't consider the worst case scenario, you'll probably have an emotional breakdown on this board if it does occur.

And I'm one of the more optimistic people here :) :)
 
[quote="Room112" post=320980][quote="MBaldi" post=320950]Sorry, respectfully, I don’t understand the need for such a post (one injury away from season over). One could say this in many contexts, including outside of college basketballl. I could get hit by a car this afternoon, but negative thought that does not do me any good.[/quote]

I'm just keeping it real dude. I'm not saying is likely or will ever happen. But if you don't consider the worst case scenario, you'll probably have an emotional breakdown on this board if it does occur.

And I'm one of the more optimistic people here :) :)[/quote]

Also to Baldi's point getting hit by a car would suck for you but hopefully you have a good life insurance policy so it doesn't suck quite as much for your loved ones.
 
[quote="BrookJersey Redmen" post=320978]SS&G, having one too many??

Ponds wanted to leave after last year; he's gone drafted on not, I personally think if he is not drafted, then he gets an NBA invite anyway and makes a team, he is too good not to.

A poor man's Kemba Walker.[/quote]

There are poor man's Kemba Walkers all over Europe. It's no shame to play there. From a few Euro players I spoke to, the money and the perks are good enough to be plenty comfortable after a 10 year career. I have heard comparisons to Walker and Nick Van Excel, but Ponds has a different game than most guards. He is a little pg, a little sg, and a lot of finesse and spin moves and then spin off the glass. I'm not saying he's Earl Monroe, but there are some similarities. The Pearl did not possess a ton of athleticism, I never saw him dunk, and don't know if he ever did. He wasn't a deep threat. But he was pretty automatic from 15 feet and in, and his spin moves could not be defended even though everyone knew what was coming. I remember a game he was tearing the Knicks up. No one could guard him. He tore up Frazier and Barnett. At the end of the half, the seldom used former SJU great John Warren was put in by Red Holtzman to guard Monroe. I think Monroe played around with Warren for a few seconds, and then hit a jumper over him from about 30 to end the half. Type of thing Ponds has done a few times.
 
no way Ponds does not get drafted. He can score, he can play defense, and he can pass. He's getting a late 1st round or 2nd round pick up. Worst case the knicks grab him in round two. They will not pass on another local hero again. As far as anyone else, I think Heron came here for the right reasons and will stay a final year. With him Simon, and Figgy back, thats a great core to build on with all the new talent coming in. I think although we are losing Ponds ( who's been unbelievable for us ) we will be a strong deep tourney team once again.
 
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