New York Mets 2025 Season

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Andrew said:
The Mets drew 600,000 more fans this year. In the event they don’t make the playoffs those fans may be lost next season. I would be shocked if payroll is reduced.
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I don’t think anyone is going to come out and say the Mets will be reducing payroll. However, they have clearly and will avoid long term commitments to middle aged pitchers. Sure we’ll add a second tier starter. That’s what Stearns does. So where are we adding?

Outfield? Benge will battle for a spot. Infield? Jett Williams will battle for a spot. Bullpen? Unless Diaz opts out we will do the Stearns thing. Project here, project there.

IF the re sign Pete payroll might increase on its own. If not expect Clifford and Vientos to battle for 1B. That would reduce payroll further.

I am going off Cohen saying spending at this level is “not ideal”. This is the model. I guess we will see how flexible he is. I think a relatively quiet winter is ahead. Maybe trade route is the way they go.
 
The payroll should be lower with the addition of several young players. It was time to move on from McNeil two years ago. This is the time to get under some of those tax thresholds and reset.
 
SJUNC said:
The payroll should be lower with the addition of several young players. It was time to move on from McNeil two years ago. This is the time to get under some of those tax thresholds and reset.
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Except none of the position players they have brought up have stepped up except for Vientos last year. Excluding obviously the three pitchers, the Mets farm system has proven to be a huge disappointment IMO.
 
sjc88 said:
I don’t think anyone is going to come out and say the Mets will be reducing payroll. However, they have clearly and will avoid long term commitments to middle aged pitchers. Sure we’ll add a second tier starter. That’s what Stearns does. So where are we adding?

Outfield? Benge will battle for a spot. Infield? Jett Williams will battle for a spot. Bullpen? Unless Diaz opts out we will do the Stearns thing. Project here, project there.

IF the re sign Pete payroll might increase on its own. If not expect Clifford and Vientos to battle for 1B. That would reduce payroll further.

I am going off Cohen saying spending at this level is “not ideal”. This is the model. I guess we will see how flexible he is. I think a relatively quiet winter is ahead. Maybe trade route is the way they go.
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The interesting subplot is that many people seem to anticipate a lockout in 2026, so free agents may have to only go for one or two years. that can create opportunities
 
logen said:
Except none of the position players they have brought up have stepped up except for Vientos last year. Excluding obviously the three pitchers, the Mets farm system has proven to be a huge disappointment IMO.
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Benge and Jett Williams need to be on the roster and I am not done with Baty
 
logen said:
Your expectations apparently are very low.
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lol. That is complete and utter nonsense.

He is fourth on the team in WAR, at 2.8. He is ahead of Nimmo and McNeil. He's a better than average MLB hitter, statistically and not using anything advanced, and also has been a very reliable glove at both 2B and 3B. He's also had actual clutch hits. He's 25. That is a major step forward.
 
dk423 said:
lol. That is complete and utter nonsense.

He is fourth on the team in WAR, at 2.8. He is ahead of Nimmo and McNeil. He's a better than average MLB hitter, statistically and not using anything advanced, and also has been a very reliable glove at both 2B and 3B. He's also had actual clutch hits. He's 25. That is a major step forward.
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We just disagree, I don’t care about New Age statistics, I watch players play and form my opinion of them that way. And while my comment was directed at the Met call ups, saying he has a stat better than Nimmo and McNeil is a pretty low bar.
I respect your opinion but think you are way off. IMO, Baty passes no eye test. Anyone who has almost 400 at bats should have a few clutch hits but by and large he is a rally killer. Horrible situational hitter, as is almost every Met.
I do agree he is a major league level fielder.
But over all, we just disagree.
 
dk423 said:
lol. That is complete and utter nonsense.

He is fourth on the team in WAR, at 2.8. He is ahead of Nimmo and McNeil. He's a better than average MLB hitter, statistically and not using anything advanced, and also has been a very reliable glove at both 2B and 3B. He's also had actual clutch hits. He's 25. That is a major step forward.
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And he’s doing that batting in front of garbage. He’s hitting .455 when he bats in front of Lindor (14 games).
 
sjc88 said:
I think we all need to be a little patient with some of these young players. We tend to want immediate results. A 25 year old Baty still has room for improvement. In fact the Mets are invested in Baty.

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I am assuming aimed at me and I would point out that I did not say a word about Baty’s or any other player’s future.
I would say that you have already declared Baty a better than average major league hitter and now are asking for time for his improvement, which he is certainly entitled to. And frankly, has earned. He without a doubt could improve and become the player you said he already is. I just disagreed.
Because I don’t speculate on what may happen, I merely evaluate and offer my opinion on what has occurred.
 
logen said:
I am assuming aimed at me and I would point out that I did not say a word about Baty’s or any other player’s future.
I would say that you have already declared Baty a better than average major league hitter and now are asking for time for his improvement, which he is certainly entitled to. And frankly, has earned. He without a doubt could improve and become the player you said he already is. I just disagreed.
Because I don’t speculate on what may happen, I merely evaluate and offer my opinion on what has occurred.
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Aimed? No just preaching patience to everyone. All of us could use some of it when it comes to younger players. Out of necessity I think we rushed a couple of them. I have not declared Baty better than average. Right now he has shown flashes but he has a lot to prove.
 
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