New York Mets 2025 Season

I find the banter between the terminology of “not having his stuff” and “not having command” very refreshing. It has even brought Yankee fans into the fray.

This obviously means that everyone is optimistic about the hoops season to the extent they need another outlet in which to disagree with one another. 😁😉
 
gman said:
He also also play 2nd base. He feels like a McNeil replacement for 2027 (when we decline his option).
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I don't like him that much in the infield, but I think he can handle it. He doesn't look overly fluid there. He has a chance to be special in center. Worst case is he can be a guy that plays like 6 positions.
 
Marillac2 said:
AJ Ewing batting .391 in AA now in his age 20 year. He's going to finish with north of 70 steals (currently at 69) and great defense in center field. He keeps this up and he is in play for a callup next year along with Benge, Jett, and Clifford.
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Ewing is an interesting prospect. He is not today’s “power” guy. He has 3 Hrs. He does have 25 doubles and 9 triples. The SB and speed screams top of the lineup. 69 (!!) stolen bases. Nothing wrong with a .300 type hitter.

Of course, with Benge and Jett both considered better prospects where might he slot in? Honestly, he’s not breaking camp next year and maybe a mid season call up if we have injuries. They still have time before deciding where he might fit in.
 
SJU85 said:
Stuff refers to speed and/ or movement of pitches.

Control refers to the ability to throw pitches for strikes.

Command refers to the ability to throw pitches where you want within and just off of the strike zone.

The three are not the same.

A pitcher can have control but not command because he is throwing strikes but cannot locate it in the zone.

A pitcher can have good stuff but no control or command and has no idea where the ball is going.

I don’t watch the Mets a lot but from what I am hearing and reading, using Senga as an example, his control is okay however his stuff and command are not there.
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Master class that Marillac needs to sign up for 🤪🤣😂
 
SJU85 said:
Stuff refers to speed and/ or movement of pitches.

Control refers to the ability to throw pitches for strikes.

Command refers to the ability to throw pitches where you want within and just off of the strike zone.

The three are not the same.

A pitcher can have control but not command because he is throwing strikes but cannot locate it in the zone.

A pitcher can have good stuff but no control or command and has no idea where the ball is going.

I don’t watch the Mets a lot but from what I am hearing and reading, using Senga as an example, his control is okay however his stuff and command are not there.
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Good breakdown.

But for McLean’s first three innings against Detroit, each of these things applied in various ways so it was a bit much for us to descend into what precisely was the thing with him.
 
SJU85 said:
Stuff refers to speed and/ or movement of pitches.
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Anyone can throw hard and spin the hell out of the ball at the expense of locating it. These things cannot be separated. Nolan McLean will never not be able to spin the ball. He threw a curve ball 4 feet outside at one point...he clearly didn't have the feel for the pitch. He was off and didn't have it....and as a pitcher you have to pitch through it those innings or those games. He did, and it was really impressive for a rookie.

Would anyone argue that Rich Ankiel had great stuff when he was throwing the ball to the backstop with the yips? Of course not.
 
sjc88 said:
Ewing is an interesting prospect. He is not today’s “power” guy. He has 3 Hrs. He does have 25 doubles and 9 triples. The SB and speed screams top of the lineup. 69 (!!) stolen bases. Nothing wrong with a .300 type hitter.

Of course, with Benge and Jett both considered better prospects where might he slot in? Honestly, he’s not breaking camp next year and maybe a mid season call up if we have injuries. They still have time before deciding where he might fit in.
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I do see more power from him than most scouts expect when he physically matures. He's not only super young, he looks even younger than his age. Some of those doubles and triples will turn into homers. He makes some solid contact for his size. The question really is how much of that speed is he willing to sacrifice to put on more muscle. He can run, run as Deion says. He makes Acuna look like he's wearing ankle weights.

I would love to see the Mets get aggressive with him...seems like a good candidate to send to the Arizona Fall League and then start the year in AAA. Probably not, though, until Benge gets called up. Morabito is a very solid player and Ewing has pushed him to playing the corners since he got to AA. That says a lot.
 
Marillac2 said:
I do see more power from him than most scouts expect when he physically matures. He's not only super young, he looks even younger than his age. Some of those doubles and triples will turn into homers. He makes some solid contact for his size. The question really is how much of that speed is he willing to sacrifice to put on more muscle. He can run, run as Deion says. He makes Acuna look like he's wearing ankle weights.

I would love to see the Mets get aggressive with him...seems like a good candidate to send to the Arizona Fall League and then start the year in AAA. Probably not, though, until Benge gets called up. Morabito is a very solid player and Ewing has pushed him to playing the corners since he got to AA. That says a lot.
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And then you have Reimer, who has an identical OPS in AA as A at only age 21.

Also curious how Clifford does with a full year of AAA under his belt, also just turned 22 in July.
 
Marillac2 said:
Anyone can throw hard and spin the hell out of the ball at the expense of locating it. These things cannot be separated. Nolan McLean will never not be able to spin the ball. He threw a curve ball 4 feet outside at one point...he clearly didn't have the feel for the pitch. He was off and didn't have it....and as a pitcher you have to pitch through it those innings or those games. He did, and it was really impressive for a rookie.

Would anyone argue that Rich Ankiel had great stuff when he was throwing the ball to the backstop with the yips? Of course not.
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Yes, people can have great stuff, but no control or command or have one of the two.

They are still three different things.
 
SJU85 said:
Yes, people can have great stuff, but no control or command or have one of the two.

They are still three different things
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I wouldn't disagree if you are comparing two players or defining a player overall. But game to game, inning to inning, and pitch to pitch a player's stuff isn't going to change. The pitcher has to balance all those factors with every single pitch. You can spin the sh*t out of it at the expense of location and/or velocity, you can bite down and overthrow at the expense of location, etc. The same stuff goes for QBs. I can concentrate on the spiral action, I can try to be as accurate as possible, or I could just grip it and rip it at the expense of both. They are dependent variables.

The larger point of this is that it's beyond silly to semanticize a throwaway phrase like he doesn't have his stuff. We all use it interchangeably with "he doesn't have it tonight" and a dozen other phrases.
 
dk423 said:
And then you have Reimer, who has an identical OPS in AA as A at only age 21.

Also curious how Clifford does with a full year of AAA under his belt, also just turned 22 in July.
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I love Reimer. That kid will have a decade + MLB career. The Mets will really have to make some tough decisions this winter. You have to part with Mauricio and probably others if you get good value in return. It's a wonderful problem to have.

I'm sticking with Vientos and Baty (because he can play second better than Mauricio). Figure Jett as the second baseman of the future by mid-season 2026 that can also backup short.
 
Mauricio is a beast. He needs more PT but not on this years team. He is still coming off a year off. Vientos is a DH. Baty is a nice player but his upside isn't close to Mauricio.
 
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