NCAA to pull all championship events from N.C.

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N.C.A.A. Moves Championship Events From North Carolina, Citing Anti-Gay Laws

By LIAM STACKSEPT. 12, 2016

The National Collegiate Athletic Association said on Monday that it would relocate all seven previously awarded championship events from North Carolina during the 2016-17 academic year because of concerns over laws passed by the state that it said violated the civil rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.

The N.C.A.A. said the decision by its board of governors was based on “the cumulative actions taken by the state concerning civil rights protections” that conflicted with the organization’s commitment to “fairness and inclusion.”

“Fairness is about more than the opportunity to participate in college sports, or even compete for championships,” Mark Emmert, the N.C.A.A. president, said in a statement. “We believe in providing a safe and respectful environment at our events and are committed to providing the best experience possible for college athletes, fans and everyone taking part in our championships.”

The move by the N.C.A.A. comes less than two months after the National Basketball Association said it would move next February’s All-Star Game from Charlotte as a protest against a North Carolina law that canceled anti-discrimination protections for L.G.B.T. people. Earlier, a number of performers canceled concerts in the state, including Bruce Springsteen, Ringo Starr and Itzhak Perlman.

The N.C.A.A. said on Monday that the legal situation facing L.G.B.T. people in North Carolina was unique because of what it called “four specific factors.”

Among them were laws that barred transgender people from using public restrooms that correspond to their gender identity and laws that allow government officials to refuse to provide services to L.G.B.T. people.

The N.C.A.A. also criticized a North Carolina law that forbids local municipalities from passing their own anti-discrimination laws that included sexual orientation or gender identity. Five states and a number of cities have also passed laws that bar public employees and representatives of public institutions from traveling to North Carolina, which the organization said could be interpreted to include student athletes and university athletics staff members.


The N.C.A.A. events being moved from North Carolina are:

2016 Division I women’s soccer championship, College Cup (Cary), Dec. 2 and 4.

2016 Division III men’s and women’s soccer championships (Greensboro), Dec. 2 and 3.

2017 Division I men’s basketball championship, first and second rounds (Greensboro), March 17 and 19.

2017 Division I women’s golf championships, regional (Greenville), May 8 to 10.

2017 Division III men’s and women’s tennis championships (Cary), May 22 to 27.

2017 Division I women’s lacrosse championship (Cary), May 26 and 28.

2017 Division II baseball championship (Cary), May 27 to June 3.

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This may make the Road to the Final Four a little bumpy for certain teams who are used to an open road...
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To quote Antoine "Fats" Domino: "Ain't that a shame!" :) And by the way, kudos to the NCAA.
 
The NCAA should stay out of politics. Just think what's next. Let's just say you agree or (or maybe disagree) with a states' current abortion law. Should the NCAA ban or only pick states that agree to whose opinion? Why pick and choose this issue? I am sure we can find something we disagree with in all locations. Pretty soon we will need to play games on vacated islands.
 
The NCAA should stay out of politics. Just think what's next. Let's just say you agree or (or maybe disagree) with a states' current abortion law. Should the NCAA ban or only pick states that agree to whose opinion? Why pick and choose this issue? I am sure we can find something we disagree with in all locations. Pretty soon we will need to play games on vacated islands.
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NONSENSE! The NCAA is the paragon of virtue, and I will happily follow their lead on any issue!
 
The NCAA should stay out of politics. Just think what's next. Let's just say you agree or (or maybe disagree) with a states' current abortion law. Should the NCAA ban or only pick states that agree to whose opinion? Why pick and choose this issue? I am sure we can find something we disagree with in all locations. Pretty soon we will need to play games on vacated islands.
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They are allowed to pick and choose any issue they want.

They won't come out and say why, but there's a definite reason why this issue was chosen. They can't really claim to be dedicated to “fairness and inclusion” when a law in North Carolina theoretically would affect many of its athletes and coaches. Mostly female, I imagine, but male too.
 
This may make the Road to the Final Four a little bumpy for certain teams who are used to an open road...
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To quote Antoine "Fats" Domino: "Ain't that a shame!" :) And by the way, kudos to the NCAA.
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Maybe you should change your screen name to Blueken, veryblueken.

The whole issue over transgender bathrooms is political horsecrap. Under existing statutes a biological male with no gender identity issues could claim that he identifies as a female to gain access to a girl's bathroom. My guess is that in reality, without legislation a male who in actuality identifies as a female is already using a girl's bathroom and in most public settings would fear using a men's bathroom if his appearance is female, while a female who identifies as male is also not using a men's room. It's a drummed up issue for a very tiny slice of the gay population, and the whole concept of family bathrooms solves that issue. In fact in most restaurants in major cities, bathrooms are being converted to single person, non gender specific restrooms that mimic much of Europe where toilets are private but sinks are communal non-gender specific.

I feel this is a take the bait election year garbage designed to rally the LGBT vote to come out and vote Blue is strong numbers. I don't doubt that for a very few this is a legitimate issue but whether you are strongly for or against this legislation to get worked up about it you've already taken the bait and it's served its purpose to rally the mostly left voting LGBT bloc.
 
I would imagine your assumptions are probably correct. But it's not the issue itself that affects so many people, it's that if you can take away one demographic's rights what's to say you can't take away another's. If this law stands then maybe Trump's Muslim internment camps are next, and so on and when they get to fat old white men I'm screwed. I don't imagine many would change their vote on this issue, besides homophobes, but as another indicator of ongoing straight white christian bias of the far right it can be seen as concerning by much of the population of this country.
 
This may make the Road to the Final Four a little bumpy for certain teams who are used to an open road...
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To quote Antoine "Fats" Domino: "Ain't that a shame!" :) And by the way, kudos to the NCAA.
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Maybe you should change your screen name to Blueken, veryblueken.

The whole issue over transgender bathrooms is political horsecrap. Under existing statutes a biological male with no gender identity issues could claim that he identifies as a female to gain access to a girl's bathroom. My guess is that in reality, without legislation a male who in actuality identifies as a female is already using a girl's bathroom and in most public settings would fear using a men's bathroom if his appearance is female, while a female who identifies as male is also not using a men's room. It's a drummed up issue for a very tiny slice of the gay population, and the whole concept of family bathrooms solves that issue. In fact in most restaurants in major cities, bathrooms are being converted to single person, non gender specific restrooms that mimic much of Europe where toilets are private but sinks are communal non-gender specific.

I feel this is a take the bait election year garbage designed to rally the LGBT vote to come out and vote Blue is strong numbers. I don't doubt that for a very few this is a legitimate issue but whether you are strongly for or against this legislation to get worked up about it you've already taken the bait and it's served its purpose to rally the mostly left voting LGBT bloc.
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I am all for LGBT rights and all but the United States is made up of "States" that can pass their own local laws. I am not sure that depriving the straight fans that make up over 97% of the sports fans from attending the events is not as discriminatory to our citizens. What's next? Quotas that mandate the racial makeup of teams to reflect the general population? Seventy percent of football players are African-American and at most colleges and in the NBA over 85% of basketball players are African-American. By the way, I have no problem with transgender men dressed as a woman going into a female rest room. Now, if he dressed like Andrew Dice Clay, he should get his ass kicked. I welcome women of any sexual orientation into the men's room but I'm sure they would hold their farts in and that is not healthy. B) ;)
 
I would imagine your assumptions are probably correct. But it's not the issue itself that affects so many people, it's that if you can take away one demographic's rights what's to say you can't take away another's. If this law stands then maybe Trump's Muslim internment camps are next, and so on and when they get to fat old white men I'm screwed. I don't imagine many would change their vote on this issue, besides homophobes, but as another indicator of ongoing straight white christian bias of the far right it can be seen as concerning by much of the population of this country.
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I don't know if a 50 year biological male's right to use a women's rest room because he identifies with being female supercedes the rights of biologically female to use a rest room without being in the presence of a biological male. As we would mostly all agree a post op transgender person should be able to freely use the restroom of their newly assigned gender. If someone merely identifies with the opposite gender without any clinical diagnosis affirming this, perhaps they should go at home, and not infringe upon the privacy rights of others.
 
This may make the Road to the Final Four a little bumpy for certain teams who are used to an open road...
Click to expand...

To quote Antoine "Fats" Domino: "Ain't that a shame!" :) And by the way, kudos to the NCAA.
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Maybe you should change your screen name to Blueken, veryblueken.

The whole issue over transgender bathrooms is political horsecrap. Under existing statutes a biological male with no gender identity issues could claim that he identifies as a female to gain access to a girl's bathroom. My guess is that in reality, without legislation a male who in actuality identifies as a female is already using a girl's bathroom and in most public settings would fear using a men's bathroom if his appearance is female, while a female who identifies as male is also not using a men's room. It's a drummed up issue for a very tiny slice of the gay population, and the whole concept of family bathrooms solves that issue. In fact in most restaurants in major cities, bathrooms are being converted to single person, non gender specific restrooms that mimic much of Europe where toilets are private but sinks are communal non-gender specific.

I feel this is a take the bait election year garbage designed to rally the LGBT vote to come out and vote Blue is strong numbers. I don't doubt that for a very few this is a legitimate issue but whether you are strongly for or against this legislation to get worked up about it you've already taken the bait and it's served its purpose to rally the mostly left voting LGBT bloc.
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I am all for LGBT rights and all but the United States is made up of "States" that can pass their own local laws. I am not sure that depriving the straight fans that make up over 97% of the sports fans from attending the events is not as discriminatory to our citizens. What's next? Quotas that mandate the racial makeup of teams to reflect the general population? Seventy percent of football players are African-American and at most colleges and in the NBA over 85% of basketball players are African-American. By the way, I have no problem with transgender men dressed as a woman going into a female rest room. Now, if he dressed like Andrew Dice Clay, he should get his ass kicked. I welcome women of any sexual orientation into the men's room but I'm sure they would hold their farts in and that is not healthy. B) ;)
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97%? Clearly you've never been to a WNBA game.
 
I would imagine your assumptions are probably correct. But it's not the issue itself that affects so many people, it's that if you can take away one demographic's rights what's to say you can't take away another's. If this law stands then maybe Trump's Muslim internment camps are next, and so on and when they get to fat old white men I'm screwed. I don't imagine many would change their vote on this issue, besides homophobes, but as another indicator of ongoing straight white christian bias of the far right it can be seen as concerning by much of the population of this country.
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If Trump gets in you will have nothing to worry about as a fat old white man. :)
 
Whoops. When I first read the topic, I thought the NCAA was holding UNC accountable for phantom classes. Alas, I should have known better.
 
To reiterate: Kudos to the NCAA.
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You'd retract that if your 10 year old daughter was accosted in a ladies room by a gender confused male who identifies as a female lesbian.
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Beast, sadly there are always going to be situations of individuals being accosted by sexually, and criminally, aggressive individuals -- most of whom are heterosexual. As for the law passed by the North Carolina, it requires transgender people (and everyone else) to use public restrooms, as defined, according to the biological sex on their birth certificate. That said, women who have "transgendered" into males -- and who have a penis -- would be forced to used the women's restroom or locker room because their birth certificates states they're female. As the parent of a 10-year-old girl, that's something would cause me consternation.
 
To reiterate: Kudos to the NCAA.
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You'd retract that if your 10 year old daughter was accosted in a ladies room by a gender confused male who identifies as a female lesbian.
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Beast, sadly there are always going to be situations of individuals being accosted by sexually, and criminally, aggressive individuals -- most of whom are heterosexual. As for the law passed by the North Carolina, it requires transgender people (and everyone else) to use public restrooms, as defined, according to the biological sex on their birth certificate. That said, women who have "transgendered" into males -- and who have a penis -- would be forced to used the women's restroom or locker room because their birth certificates states they're female. As the parent of a 10-year-old girl, that's something would cause me consternation.
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Ken, the federal mandate has no requirement for any clinical assessment to be made. An individual only has to assert that they identify with another gender - and NOTHING else - to legally use the bathroom of their choice. The federal ruling was poorly conceived simply for political purpose to rev up the LGBT vote, the same way BLM movement has been, the same way Occupy Wall Street was used. Don't confuse that with any point that any of those movements has merit. It was done purely and simply to be used to divide people to make their voting choices simpler. Is it reasonable to qualify what a transgender person is - even by a very private registration or designation by a healthcare provider? I believe so. But the point of this administration is to cast everything so broadly black and white as to really agitate their voting base.
 
To reiterate: Kudos to the NCAA.
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You'd retract that if your 10 year old daughter was accosted in a ladies room by a gender confused male who identifies as a female lesbian.
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Beast, sadly there are always going to be situations of individuals being accosted by sexually, and criminally, aggressive individuals -- most of whom are heterosexual. As for the law passed by the North Carolina, it requires transgender people (and everyone else) to use public restrooms, as defined, according to the biological sex on their birth certificate. That said, women who have "transgendered" into males -- and who have a penis -- would be forced to used the women's restroom or locker room because their birth certificates states they're female. As the parent of a 10-year-old girl, that's something would cause me consternation.
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Ken, the federal mandate has no requirement for any clinical assessment to be made. An individual only has to assert that they identify with another gender - and NOTHING else - to legally use the bathroom of their choice. The federal ruling was poorly conceived simply for political purpose to rev up the LGBT vote, the same way BLM movement has been, the same way Occupy Wall Street was used. Don't confuse that with any point that any of those movements has merit. It was done purely and simply to be used to divide people to make their voting choices simpler. Is it reasonable to qualify what a transgender person is - even by a very private registration or designation by a healthcare provider? I believe so. But the point of this administration is to cast everything so broadly black and white as to really agitate their voting base.
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The one thing, and maybe the only thing, that this administration has been successful is dividing people.
 
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