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According to Nate Blue on twitter.....
Max Hooper is on the Thunder's Summer League Team.


I'm happy for the guy, but that's ridiculous.
 
According to Nate Blue on twitter.....
Max Hooper is on the Thunder's Summer League Team.


I'm happy for the guy, but that's ridiculous.
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Also a bit of a stain on Lavin that he didnt develop Max at all and he had a nice college career after leaving and got invited to a camp. He will get exposed but Im sure they are just looking for a spot up shooter.
 
Zach Lowe – ‏@ZachLowe_NBA

Bucks are nearing a 4-year, $38M deal for Matthew Dellavedova, sources tell http://ESPN.com
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Suddenly the Rose to the Knicks deal got more expensive. Now the Knicks are going to be locking up creaky Joakim Noah for $72mm and 4 years...
 
Zach Lowe – ‏@ZachLowe_NBA

Bucks are nearing a 4-year, $38M deal for Matthew Dellavedova, sources tell http://ESPN.com
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Suddenly the Rose to the Knicks deal got more expensive. Now the Knicks are going to be locking up creaky Joakim Noah for $72mm and 4 years...
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And they're pursuing D. Wade who wants 20+ million/year
I see their strategy unfolding - spend a bundle and bring in a slew of injury prone guys
 
Zach Lowe – ‏@ZachLowe_NBA

Bucks are nearing a 4-year, $38M deal for Matthew Dellavedova, sources tell http://ESPN.com
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Suddenly the Rose to the Knicks deal got more expensive. Now the Knicks are going to be locking up creaky Joakim Noah for $72mm and 4 years...
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And they're pursuing D. Wade who wants 20+ million/year
I see their strategy unfolding - spend a bundle and bring in a slew of injury prone guys
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AKA, the Yankee model.
 
The deal that big Russian guy got is crazy. He couldn't even get PT in the finals.
 
Personally I think it is crazy but fantastic for the schools going after good four year players. This is only going to spur kids leaving after 1 or 2 seasons whom the nba will draft on potential. A perfect example would be Malachi Richardson of SU who left after one season. And it was not a Carmelo season.
If we keep recruiting top 50 players players who can rarely leave before playing 3 seasons we will be in great shape.
 
Personally I think it is crazy but fantastic for the schools going after good four year players. This is only going to spur kids leaving after 1 or 2 seasons whom the nba will draft on potential. A perfect example would be Malachi Richardson of SU who left after one season. And it was not a Carmelo season.
If we keep recruiting top 50 players players who can rarely leave before playing 3 seasons we will be in great shape.
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IMO, the only time a school should be recruiting a "one and done" type player is if/when they really feel that they may have a legit shot to "win it all" and think that one "franchise" type player can put them over the hump.

Applying my philosophy and looking at our history, I would rarely be in favor of seeing St John's recruit a "one and done" type player. Give me the 3 and 4 year "lunch pail" type kids at St John's any day of the week.
 
Personally I think it is crazy but fantastic for the schools going after good four year players. This is only going to spur kids leaving after 1 or 2 seasons whom the nba will draft on potential. A perfect example would be Malachi Richardson of SU who left after one season. And it was not a Carmelo season.
If we keep recruiting top 50 players players who can rarely leave before playing 3 seasons we will be in great shape.
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Agree RN, but there are many factors that I am sure the staff is taking in to account before deciding to go after a potential one-and-done kid. For instance, a kid's character. A high character kid is far more likely to fit in with an established team, even if for just one year. The state of the program/team at any given time is another factor. As you know, I was in favor of bringing on Rawle for a variety of reasons. IE Talent, PR, local kid, etc. This in spite of the fact that many were concerned that he would come with baggage. Besides, from having watched him quite a bit, I am not as convinced as others that he is a near sure-fire one-and-done. Sometimes the state of the program will necessitate passing on a potential one and done kid, if there is concern that he may disrupt the chemistry on a veteran team. As Markredman said, sometimes you bring on a kid because you think he can put you over the top. Building the team around 3 and 4 year kids, supplementing them with transfers and the occasional one-and-done kid(case by case) is the right way to go IMO. That seems to be exactly what the staff is doing.
 
Personally I think it is crazy but fantastic for the schools going after good four year players. This is only going to spur kids leaving after 1 or 2 seasons whom the nba will draft on potential. A perfect example would be Malachi Richardson of SU who left after one season. And it was not a Carmelo season.
If we keep recruiting top 50 players players who can rarely leave before playing 3 seasons we will be in great shape.
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Agree RN, but there are many factors that I am sure the staff is taking in to account before deciding to go after a potential one-and-done kid. For instance, a kid's character. A high character kid is far more likely to fit in with an established team, even if for just one year. The state of the program/team at any given time is another factor. As you know, I was in favor of bringing on Rawle for a variety of reasons. IE Talent, PR, local kid, etc. This in spite of the fact that many were concerned that he would come with baggage. Besides, from having watched him quite a bit, I am not as convinced as others that he is a near sure-fire one-and-done. Sometimes the state of the program will necessitate passing on a potential one and done kid, if there is concern that he may disrupt the chemistry on a veteran team. As Markredman said, sometimes you bring on a kid because you think he can put you over the top. Building the team around 3 and 4 year kids, supplementing them with transfers and the occasional one-and-done kid(case by case) is the right way to go IMO. That seems to be exactly what the staff is doing.
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Most sure fire "one and done" kids need to use that year to showcase themselves to the NBA scouts and teams. That often translates into more selfish play to pad the stats needed to justify the move after one season and can have a negative impact upon team chemistry.

In addition, the "one and done" rule makes a mockery of the college educational experience. A kid only has to successfully complete one semester if he is certain to leave after one year. And we know what kind of "classes" such a kid is likely to take in that one semester......

For these reasons, I hope that someday, in the not too distant future, the NBA will revisit their current policy and require kids to stay in college for at least two years before being able to declare for the draft. Actually, my real preference would be to follow the NFL rule - 3 years removed from high school.
 
Personally I think it is crazy but fantastic for the schools going after good four year players. This is only going to spur kids leaving after 1 or 2 seasons whom the nba will draft on potential. A perfect example would be Malachi Richardson of SU who left after one season. And it was not a Carmelo season.
If we keep recruiting top 50 players players who can rarely leave before playing 3 seasons we will be in great shape.
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Agree RN, but there are many factors that I am sure the staff is taking in to account before deciding to go after a potential one-and-done kid. For instance, a kid's character. A high character kid is far more likely to fit in with an established team, even if for just one year. The state of the program/team at any given time is another factor. As you know, I was in favor of bringing on Rawle for a variety of reasons. IE Talent, PR, local kid, etc. This in spite of the fact that many were concerned that he would come with baggage. Besides, from having watched him quite a bit, I am not as convinced as others that he is a near sure-fire one-and-done. Sometimes the state of the program will necessitate passing on a potential one and done kid, if there is concern that he may disrupt the chemistry on a veteran team. As Markredman said, sometimes you bring on a kid because you think he can put you over the top. Building the team around 3 and 4 year kids, supplementing them with transfers and the occasional one-and-done kid(case by case) is the right way to go IMO. That seems to be exactly what the staff is doing.
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Most sure fire "one and done" kids need to use that year to showcase themselves to the NBA scouts and teams. That often translates into more selfish play to pad the stats needed to justify the move after one season and can have a negative impact upon team chemistry.

In addition, the "one and done" rule makes a mockery of the college educational experience. A kid only has to successfully complete one semester if he is certain to leave after one year. And we know what kind of "classes" such a kid is likely to take in that one semester......

For these reasons, I hope that someday, in the not too distant future, the NBA will revisit their current policy and require kids to stay in college for at least two years before being able to declare for the draft. Actually, my real preference would be to follow the NFL rule - 3 years removed from high school.
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I prefer the MLB rule: Either you go right out of high school, or the 3 year rule applies. But at the end of the day, if the kid isn't remotely a student it's a completely mockery, as you said.
 
Brandon Jennings to knicks on 1 year 5 mill deal. Nice get
 
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