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When Jarvis left I was angry for a decade. When Norm left I was angry till Lavins stretch the stretch of amazing msg games. I’m not angry now wish Chris the best and think it worked out best for everyone. Classy comments by Chris and I If our kids stay this year Chris left the team in a better position than the team he inherited
 
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Wanted to see Chris Mullin ‘s 1972 Dream Team statistics - have not found his scoring numbers yet but here’s a surprising note in an article from 2017 ( 25 th anniversary):
21. Karl Malone and Chris Mullin led the Dream Team with 5.3 rebounds per game.


PS discovered his ppg game average- 12.9 ppg
 
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[quote="MarkRedman" post=345770]Chris is St John's. He is the best player that ever came through the program and has represented us with grace, dignity and class throughout his career. While his short lived coaching career was not as successful as everyone would have liked it to have been, he was a victim of circumstance. He took over a team that was totally void of talent. As a novice coach, he should have been given more help, support and direction. But there was nobody around to do so. Regardless, our win total improved each year and he left the program in far better shape than when he took over.

I hope that Chris remains connected to St John's. Much like Looie, he is an ambassador for our program and school. Thanks for providing us with so many wonderful memories that all of us will always cherish. Chris is a St John's legend.[/quote]

Agree with much of what you said, but in no way was Mullin a victim of circumstance. Regardless of his lack of coaching experience, he knew what he was getting into, created the staff, responsible for the players in/out etc. As an "NBA executive" he should have been saavy enough to know change should have been made quickly. Even if not, he should have had enough contacts to give him the feedback all of us saw here. Not having an AD shouldn't be a cover.

Not trying to dump on him, as I love him as a player like everyone else, but his tenure as a coach should be looked at in the same light as Mahoney, Roberts or anyone else that didn't achieve as much as we hoped.
 
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[quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=345781]Wanted to see Chris Mullin ‘s 1972 Dream Team statistics - have not found his scoring numbers yet but here’s a surprising note in an article from 2017 ( 25 th anniversary):
21. Karl Malone and Chris Mullin led the Dream Team with 5.3 rebounds per game.






PS discovered his ppg game average- 12.9 ppg[/quote]

Mullin was on the 1984 and 1992 Olympic Teams:

[URL]https://www.basketball-reference.com/olympics/athletes/chris-mullin-1[/URL]:
 
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[quote="RedStormNC" post=345783][quote="MarkRedman" post=345770]Chris is St John's. He is the best player that ever came through the program and has represented us with grace, dignity and class throughout his career. While his short lived coaching career was not as successful as everyone would have liked it to have been, he was a victim of circumstance. He took over a team that was totally void of talent. As a novice coach, he should have been given more help, support and direction. But there was nobody around to do so. Regardless, our win total improved each year and he left the program in far better shape than when he took over.

I hope that Chris remains connected to St John's. Much like Looie, he is an ambassador for our program and school. Thanks for providing us with so many wonderful memories that all of us will always cherish. Chris is a St John's legend.[/quote]

Agree with much of what you said, but in no way was Mullin a victim of circumstance. Regardless of his lack of coaching experience, he knew what he was getting into, created the staff, responsible for the players in/out etc. As an "NBA executive" he should have been saavy enough to know change should have been made quickly. Even if not, he should have had enough contacts to give him the feedback all of us saw here. Not having an AD shouldn't be a cover.

Not trying to dump on him, as I love him as a player like everyone else, but his tenure as a coach should be looked at in the same light as Mahoney, Roberts or anyone else that didn't achieve as much as we hoped.[/quote]. For not trying to dump on Mullin , you did a pretty good job . A bit harsh in my opinion but , your opinion is equally valid as mine . . I think few of us fans realized how bare the Cupboard was that Mullin inherited from Lavin . It’s too bad Steve didn’t have to endure that 1-17 BE Season . The Hiring/Firing of Rohrseen is probably better known to others as to the details but , it unquestionably helped torpedo the Program . And , for those who missed it , Rohrseen was highly applauded by nearly every poster when he was hired . Barry never did the job he was tasked with, for whatever reasons . The other point about St John’s recruiting that gets overlooked is that , excepting the first Lavin Recruiting class of DLO, Harkless, Pointer, etc , we really haven’t had the stud HS recruit or even the 4 star kid come here , with the exception of Ponds . Steve missed on a lot of local
Kids , especially those who went to Seton Hall, I.e. Delgado, Rodriguez , etc . The lack of getting that kind of Recruit goes back to the Roberts era and is possibly more a reflection of 20 years of bad basketball that is more attributable to the damaged Brand that our School has become than the inability of any 1 Coach . As time showed , Rysheed Jordan and Chris Obepka proved to be less than expected and caused problems in the way they exited our program . Not replacing Rohrseen hurt us immensely as his role was to be Primary Recruiter . Blaming Mullin for not getting another AC looks to be more the blame of School Administrators and not Chris .,The folly of getting Rejected by all the candidates , prior to Anderson’s hire , seems to offer the proof that all blame was not on Chris . What is missing too,and bears mention is that Mullin’s core Players all seemed to love playing for him . The kids who transferred out is par for the Course in college BB today and really should not be a harsh criticism . Kids today have big ME aspirations and if they don’t get the role they want , they transfer . Forgotten too easily was the Lovett Defection last year and the loss of a high quality PG . Easily forgotten under Mullin was the 2 Wins last year vs Duke and Villanova and again the Nova Win this year and 2 of 3 vs Marquette . More a factor here and again , my opinion , is that with the personal and family issues that Mullin was dealing with , impacted his time and desire to the Program . Lastly , and this fact is often ignored , is the reality that this Year’s Team was just not as talented as our fans thought they were. I don’t want to get into the critiques of Player Performance but , suffice it to say , I think Mullin got as much from his players as they were capable of giving. Which as we know should have been a 9-9 BE Season . Coaching College BB is a difficult occupation . Witness our new Coach , Mike Anderson , being fired from Arkansas just a few weeks ago , after 2 Decades at Arkansas as a AC and Head Coach . And , he had a overall winning record but , didn’t win enough against Kentucky , Auburn , Alabama, LSU, Etc in a tough Conference . So , let Chris Mullin leave with good wishes and respect that he has earned time and again as a Player and Coach .
 
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[quote="RedStormNC" post=345783][quote="MarkRedman" post=345770]Chris is St John's. He is the best player that ever came through the program and has represented us with grace, dignity and class throughout his career. While his short lived coaching career was not as successful as everyone would have liked it to have been, he was a victim of circumstance. He took over a team that was totally void of talent. As a novice coach, he should have been given more help, support and direction. But there was nobody around to do so. Regardless, our win total improved each year and he left the program in far better shape than when he took over.

I hope that Chris remains connected to St John's. Much like Looie, he is an ambassador for our program and school. Thanks for providing us with so many wonderful memories that all of us will always cherish. Chris is a St John's legend.[/quote]

Agree with much of what you said, but in no way was Mullin a victim of circumstance. Regardless of his lack of coaching experience, he knew what he was getting into, created the staff, responsible for the players in/out etc. As an "NBA executive" he should have been saavy enough to know change should have been made quickly. Even if not, he should have had enough contacts to give him the feedback all of us saw here. Not having an AD shouldn't be a cover.

Not trying to dump on him, as I love him as a player like everyone else, but his tenure as a coach should be looked at in the same light as Mahoney, Roberts or anyone else that didn't achieve as much as we hoped.[/quote]
I wish Mullin nothing but the best, but if he felt it was time to leave and move on to other things, why was he (or his agent) supposedly asking for a two-year extension, which would translate into having him as head coach -- a less-than-committed, uninterested and tired head coach, at that -- for four more years?
 
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[quote="redken" post=345854][quote="RedStormNC" post=345783][quote="MarkRedman" post=345770]Chris is St John's. He is the best player that ever came through the program and has represented us with grace, dignity and class throughout his career. While his short lived coaching career was not as successful as everyone would have liked it to have been, he was a victim of circumstance. He took over a team that was totally void of talent. As a novice coach, he should have been given more help, support and direction. But there was nobody around to do so. Regardless, our win total improved each year and he left the program in far better shape than when he took over.

I hope that Chris remains connected to St John's. Much like Looie, he is an ambassador for our program and school. Thanks for providing us with so many wonderful memories that all of us will always cherish. Chris is a St John's legend.[/quote]

Agree with much of what you said, but in no way was Mullin a victim of circumstance. Regardless of his lack of coaching experience, he knew what he was getting into, created the staff, responsible for the players in/out etc. As an "NBA executive" he should have been saavy enough to know change should have been made quickly. Even if not, he should have had enough contacts to give him the feedback all of us saw here. Not having an AD shouldn't be a cover.

Not trying to dump on him, as I love him as a player like everyone else, but his tenure as a coach should be looked at in the same light as Mahoney, Roberts or anyone else that didn't achieve as much as we hoped.[/quote]
I wish Mullin nothing but the best, but if he felt it was time to leave and move on to other things, why was he (or his agent) supposedly asking for a two-year extension, which would translate into having him as head coach -- a less-than-committed, uninterested and tired head coach, at that -- for four more years?[/quote]. Money is Money and is always a issue , No matter the sidebar implications . It was roughly $4 million at stake , nobody , not even a Bloomberg or others , walks away from a bundle like that without negotiations . Was it a voluntary Resignation ? A actual firing ? Or , a negotiation to leave with some sort of severance . Any Executive or business person would haggle over every dime . It’s the way things are!
 
[quote="redken" post=345854][quote="RedStormNC" post=345783][quote="MarkRedman" post=345770]Chris is St John's. He is the best player that ever came through the program and has represented us with grace, dignity and class throughout his career. While his short lived coaching career was not as successful as everyone would have liked it to have been, he was a victim of circumstance. He took over a team that was totally void of talent. As a novice coach, he should have been given more help, support and direction. But there was nobody around to do so. Regardless, our win total improved each year and he left the program in far better shape than when he took over.

I hope that Chris remains connected to St John's. Much like Looie, he is an ambassador for our program and school. Thanks for providing us with so many wonderful memories that all of us will always cherish. Chris is a St John's legend.[/quote]

Agree with much of what you said, but in no way was Mullin a victim of circumstance. Regardless of his lack of coaching experience, he knew what he was getting into, created the staff, responsible for the players in/out etc. As an "NBA executive" he should have been saavy enough to know change should have been made quickly. Even if not, he should have had enough contacts to give him the feedback all of us saw here. Not having an AD shouldn't be a cover.

Not trying to dump on him, as I love him as a player like everyone else, but his tenure as a coach should be looked at in the same light as Mahoney, Roberts or anyone else that didn't achieve as much as we hoped.[/quote]
I wish Mullin nothing but the best, but if he felt it was time to leave and move on to other things, why was he (or his agent) supposedly asking for a two-year extension, which would translate into having him as head coach -- a less-than-committed, uninterested and tired head coach, at that -- for four more years?[/quote]

I believe Mullin felt it was time to leave after the extension was turned down. And it clearly was.
 
[quote="Logen" post=345874][quote="redken" post=345854][quote="RedStormNC" post=345783][quote="MarkRedman" post=345770]Chris is St John's. He is the best player that ever came through the program and has represented us with grace, dignity and class throughout his career. While his short lived coaching career was not as successful as everyone would have liked it to have been, he was a victim of circumstance. He took over a team that was totally void of talent. As a novice coach, he should have been given more help, support and direction. But there was nobody around to do so. Regardless, our win total improved each year and he left the program in far better shape than when he took over.

I hope that Chris remains connected to St John's. Much like Looie, he is an ambassador for our program and school. Thanks for providing us with so many wonderful memories that all of us will always cherish. Chris is a St John's legend.[/quote]

Agree with much of what you said, but in no way was Mullin a victim of circumstance. Regardless of his lack of coaching experience, he knew what he was getting into, created the staff, responsible for the players in/out etc. As an "NBA executive" he should have been saavy enough to know change should have been made quickly. Even if not, he should have had enough contacts to give him the feedback all of us saw here. Not having an AD shouldn't be a cover.

Not trying to dump on him, as I love him as a player like everyone else, but his tenure as a coach should be looked at in the same light as Mahoney, Roberts or anyone else that didn't achieve as much as we hoped.[/quote]
I wish Mullin nothing but the best, but if he felt it was time to leave and move on to other things, why was he (or his agent) supposedly asking for a two-year extension, which would translate into having him as head coach -- a less-than-committed, uninterested and tired head coach, at that -- for four more years?[/quote]

I believe Mullin felt it was time to leave after the extension was turned down. And it clearly was.[/quote]

We are really really good at revisiting things in an OCD way. Some day blogs will reject all posts that are too similar to what was said before, and we will get our lives back.
 
This is exactly why it is so hard to hire a “legend” of the program. Coaching and running the ship is a lot different than playing. I think it became apparent that he didn’t want to commit the effort needed. I wish him the best. Time to move on.
 
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=345860][quote="redken" post=345854][quote="RedStormNC" post=345783][quote="MarkRedman" post=345770]Chris is St John's. He is the best player that ever came through the program and has represented us with grace, dignity and class throughout his career. While his short lived coaching career was not as successful as everyone would have liked it to have been, he was a victim of circumstance. He took over a team that was totally void of talent. As a novice coach, he should have been given more help, support and direction. But there was nobody around to do so. Regardless, our win total improved each year and he left the program in far better shape than when he took over.

I hope that Chris remains connected to St John's. Much like Looie, he is an ambassador for our program and school. Thanks for providing us with so many wonderful memories that all of us will always cherish. Chris is a St John's legend.[/quote]

Agree with much of what you said, but in no way was Mullin a victim of circumstance. Regardless of his lack of coaching experience, he knew what he was getting into, created the staff, responsible for the players in/out etc. As an "NBA executive" he should have been saavy enough to know change should have been made quickly. Even if not, he should have had enough contacts to give him the feedback all of us saw here. Not having an AD shouldn't be a cover.

Not trying to dump on him, as I love him as a player like everyone else, but his tenure as a coach should be looked at in the same light as Mahoney, Roberts or anyone else that didn't achieve as much as we hoped.[/quote]
I wish Mullin nothing but the best, but if he felt it was time to leave and move on to other things, why was he (or his agent) supposedly asking for a two-year extension, which would translate into having him as head coach -- a less-than-committed, uninterested and tired head coach, at that -- for four more years?[/quote]. Money is Money and is always a issue , No matter the sidebar implications . It was roughly $4 million at stake , nobody , not even a Bloomberg or others , walks away from a bundle like that without negotiations . Was it a voluntary Resignation ? A actual firing ? Or , a negotiation to leave with some sort of severance . Any Executive or business person would haggle over every dime . It’s the way things are![/quote]
If you love your alma mater (or whatever institution), like Mullin sincerely professes he does (and which he no doubt does), then hanging on for money when you have little or zero interest in the job (something that has a great ripple effect) is unacceptable ... especially when you've already made more than $8 million dollars for a so-so (and increasingly uninterested, unfocused) performance.
 
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[quote="redken" post=345877][quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=345860][quote="redken" post=345854][quote="RedStormNC" post=345783][quote="MarkRedman" post=345770]Chris is St John's. He is the best player that ever came through the program and has represented us with grace, dignity and class throughout his career. While his short lived coaching career was not as successful as everyone would have liked it to have been, he was a victim of circumstance. He took over a team that was totally void of talent. As a novice coach, he should have been given more help, support and direction. But there was nobody around to do so. Regardless, our win total improved each year and he left the program in far better shape than when he took over.

I hope that Chris remains connected to St John's. Much like Looie, he is an ambassador for our program and school. Thanks for providing us with so many wonderful memories that all of us will always cherish. Chris is a St John's legend.[/quote]

Agree with much of what you said, but in no way was Mullin a victim of circumstance. Regardless of his lack of coaching experience, he knew what he was getting into, created the staff, responsible for the players in/out etc. As an "NBA executive" he should have been saavy enough to know change should have been made quickly. Even if not, he should have had enough contacts to give him the feedback all of us saw here. Not having an AD shouldn't be a cover.

Not trying to dump on him, as I love him as a player like everyone else, but his tenure as a coach should be looked at in the same light as Mahoney, Roberts or anyone else that didn't achieve as much as we hoped.[/quote]
I wish Mullin nothing but the best, but if he felt it was time to leave and move on to other things, why was he (or his agent) supposedly asking for a two-year extension, which would translate into having him as head coach -- a less-than-committed, uninterested and tired head coach, at that -- for four more years?[/quote]. Money is Money and is always a issue , No matter the sidebar implications . It was roughly $4 million at stake , nobody , not even a Bloomberg or others , walks away from a bundle like that without negotiations . Was it a voluntary Resignation ? A actual firing ? Or , a negotiation to leave with some sort of severance . Any Executive or business person would haggle over every dime . It’s the way things are![/quote]
If you love your alma mater (or whatever institution), hanging on for money when you have little or zero interest in the job (something that a great ripple effect) is unacceptable ... especially when you've already made more than $8 million dollars for a so-so (and increasingly uninterested) performance.[/quote]

I love St. John's. It gave me my profession, and tangental direction to a career that has been great to me. It's one reason I support them today. However, if I had a 6 year guaranteed contract and they offered that to me to get me there and I was forced out after 4, I'd sure as heck want them to honor their commitment, as I would have honored mine. Honestly, if they wanted him to leave without paying him, they should have discussed that first.
 
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=345878][quote="redken" post=345877][quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=345860][quote="redken" post=345854][quote="RedStormNC" post=345783][quote="MarkRedman" post=345770]Chris is St John's. He is the best player that ever came through the program and has represented us with grace, dignity and class throughout his career. While his short lived coaching career was not as successful as everyone would have liked it to have been, he was a victim of circumstance. He took over a team that was totally void of talent. As a novice coach, he should have been given more help, support and direction. But there was nobody around to do so. Regardless, our win total improved each year and he left the program in far better shape than when he took over.

I hope that Chris remains connected to St John's. Much like Looie, he is an ambassador for our program and school. Thanks for providing us with so many wonderful memories that all of us will always cherish. Chris is a St John's legend.[/quote]

Agree with much of what you said, but in no way was Mullin a victim of circumstance. Regardless of his lack of coaching experience, he knew what he was getting into, created the staff, responsible for the players in/out etc. As an "NBA executive" he should have been saavy enough to know change should have been made quickly. Even if not, he should have had enough contacts to give him the feedback all of us saw here. Not having an AD shouldn't be a cover.

Not trying to dump on him, as I love him as a player like everyone else, but his tenure as a coach should be looked at in the same light as Mahoney, Roberts or anyone else that didn't achieve as much as we hoped.[/quote]
I wish Mullin nothing but the best, but if he felt it was time to leave and move on to other things, why was he (or his agent) supposedly asking for a two-year extension, which would translate into having him as head coach -- a less-than-committed, uninterested and tired head coach, at that -- for four more years?[/quote]. Money is Money and is always a issue , No matter the sidebar implications . It was roughly $4 million at stake , nobody , not even a Bloomberg or others , walks away from a bundle like that without negotiations . Was it a voluntary Resignation ? A actual firing ? Or , a negotiation to leave with some sort of severance . Any Executive or business person would haggle over every dime . It’s the way things are![/quote]
If you love your alma mater (or whatever institution), hanging on for money when you have little or zero interest in the job (something that a great ripple effect) is unacceptable ... especially when you've already made more than $8 million dollars for a so-so (and increasingly uninterested) performance.[/quote]

I love St. John's. It gave me my profession, and tangental direction to a career that has been great to me. It's one reason I support them today. However, if I had a 6 year guaranteed contract and they offered that to me to get me there and I was forced out after 4, I'd sure as heck want them to honor their commitment, as I would have honored mine. Honestly, if they wanted him to leave without paying him, they should have discussed that first.[/quote]
Beast, since we don't know how the negotiations went, we obviously can't comment on how they went. But to clarify what I wrote, I have no objection to Mullin having his contract honored (which may have given him a $4-million buyout on top of what he earned for his first four years). As an alum, I embrace the icon he is. But my point is: If you're tired and have lost passion for your job and want to steer your life in different direction (as he stated), fine and good -- but if you feel that way, then don't ask or expect your employer to add two more years to your contract.
 
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[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=345853] For not trying to dump on Mullin , you did a pretty good job . A bit harsh in my opinion but , your opinion is equally valid as mine . . I think few of us fans realized how bare the Cupboard was that Mullin inherited from Lavin . It’s too bad Steve didn’t have to endure that 1-17 BE Season . The Hiring/Firing of Rohrseen is probably better known to others as to the details but , it unquestionably helped torpedo the Program . And , for those who missed it , Rohrseen was highly applauded by nearly every poster when he was hired . Barry never did the job he was tasked with, for whatever reasons . The other point about St John’s recruiting that gets overlooked is that , excepting the first Lavin Recruiting class of DLO, Harkless, Pointer, etc , we really haven’t had the stud HS recruit or even the 4 star kid come here , with the exception of Ponds . Steve missed on a lot of local
Kids , especially those who went to Seton Hall, I.e. Delgado, Rodriguez , etc . The lack of getting that kind of Recruit goes back to the Roberts era and is possibly more a reflection of 20 years of bad basketball that is more attributable to the damaged Brand that our School has become than the inability of any 1 Coach . As time showed , Rysheed Jordan and Chris Obepka proved to be less than expected and caused problems in the way they exited our program . Not replacing Rohrseen hurt us immensely as his role was to be Primary Recruiter . Blaming Mullin for not getting another AC looks to be more the blame of School Administrators and not Chris .,The folly of getting Rejected by all the candidates , prior to Anderson’s hire , seems to offer the proof that all blame was not on Chris . What is missing too,and bears mention is that Mullin’s core Players all seemed to love playing for him . The kids who transferred out is par for the Course in college BB today and really should not be a harsh criticism . Kids today have big ME aspirations and if they don’t get the role they want , they transfer . Forgotten too easily was the Lovett Defection last year and the loss of a high quality PG . Easily forgotten under Mullin was the 2 Wins last year vs Duke and Villanova and again the Nova Win this year and 2 of 3 vs Marquette . More a factor here and again , my opinion , is that with the personal and family issues that Mullin was dealing with , impacted his time and desire to the Program . Lastly , and this fact is often ignored , is the reality that this Year’s Team was just not as talented as our fans thought they were. I don’t want to get into the critiques of Player Performance but , suffice it to say , I think Mullin got as much from his players as they were capable of giving. Which as we know should have been a 9-9 BE Season . Coaching College BB is a difficult occupation . Witness our new Coach , Mike Anderson , being fired from Arkansas just a few weeks ago , after 2 Decades at Arkansas as a AC and Head Coach . And , he had a overall winning record but , didn’t win enough against Kentucky , Auburn , Alabama, LSU, Etc in a tough Conference . So , let Chris Mullin leave with good wishes and respect that he has earned time and again as a Player and Coach .[/quote]

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IMO opinion the extension request, if there even was one by Mullin, was his escape route from a job that was too much for him. Read his statement regarding the amount of time that the job required. Add to that the fact that Liz had no intention of leaving the Bay area and Chris would have to continue his bi-coastal life. Add to that Mitch Richmond basically moving back to California as soon as the season ends. Matt leaving was the icing on the cake. I think a severance is being negotiated but no way is he getting anywhere near his final two years. Everyone who knows Chris seems happy with his decision. This President and Oliva no longer were in his corner. Cragg was the messenger. Those two almost derailed the coaching search. Lucky for us the Loyola coach saw what they were made of and even Cluess is better off. The criticism of both will have a long effect on their careers at St. John's.
When is this president's contract up? It can't come too soon.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=345891]IMO opinion the extension request, if there even was one by Mullin, was his escape route from a job that was too much for him. Read his statement regarding the amount of time that the job required. Add to that the fact that Liz had no intention of leaving the Bay area and Chris would have to continue his bi-coastal life. Add to that Mitch Richmond basically moving back to California as soon as the season ends. Matt leaving was the icing on the cake. I think a severance is being negotiated but no way is he getting anywhere near his final two years. Everyone who knows Chris seems happy with his decision. This President and Oliva no longer were in his corner. Cragg was the messenger. Those two almost derailed the coaching search. Lucky for us the Loyola coach saw what they were made of and even Cluess is better off. The criticism of both will have a long effect on their careers at St. John's.
When is this president's contract up? It can't come too soon.[/quote]

Sticky time.
#Facts
 
Personally my loyalty will always be to St. John's the program first and foremost. CM the player did an enormous amount for us, while CM the coach not so much. Most of that is definitely on him, however I think CM had good intentions and just couldn't put in the time required to be successful at this level. In the end he didn't overstay his welcome.

I was upset that his $4 million buyout may have impacted our coaching search. I was angry with everyone, including Mullin, that the buyout could force us to hire a mediocre coach. Fortunately that didn't happen and we got CMA. Have to assume CMA's salary is > $2 million annually. Of course, Repole likely forced St. John's to make the right hire, but end of the day we got who we needed.

As for that $4 million, those who wrote up the contract are primarily to blame. Because we ended up with Coach Anderson rather than Coach Jones, I don't really care any longer what happens with that $4 million. Hopefully St. John's learned from their mistakes and wrote up better contracts for CMA and his assistants. No more Slice debacles!
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=345875][quote="Logen" post=345874][quote="redken" post=345854][quote="RedStormNC" post=345783][quote="MarkRedman" post=345770]Chris is St John's. He is the best player that ever came through the program and has represented us with grace, dignity and class throughout his career. While his short lived coaching career was not as successful as everyone would have liked it to have been, he was a victim of circumstance. He took over a team that was totally void of talent. As a novice coach, he should have been given more help, support and direction. But there was nobody around to do so. Regardless, our win total improved each year and he left the program in far better shape than when he took over.

I hope that Chris remains connected to St John's. Much like Looie, he is an ambassador for our program and school. Thanks for providing us with so many wonderful memories that all of us will always cherish. Chris is a St John's legend.[/quote]

Agree with much of what you said, but in no way was Mullin a victim of circumstance. Regardless of his lack of coaching experience, he knew what he was getting into, created the staff, responsible for the players in/out etc. As an "NBA executive" he should have been saavy enough to know change should have been made quickly. Even if not, he should have had enough contacts to give him the feedback all of us saw here. Not having an AD shouldn't be a cover.

Not trying to dump on him, as I love him as a player like everyone else, but his tenure as a coach should be looked at in the same light as Mahoney, Roberts or anyone else that didn't achieve as much as we hoped.[/quote]
I wish Mullin nothing but the best, but if he felt it was time to leave and move on to other things, why was he (or his agent) supposedly asking for a two-year extension, which would translate into having him as head coach -- a less-than-committed, uninterested and tired head coach, at that -- for four more years?[/quote]

I believe Mullin felt it was time to leave after the extension was turned down. And it clearly was.[/quote]

We are really really good at revisiting things in an OCD way. Some day blogs will reject all posts that are too similar to what was said before, and we will get our lives back.[/quote]

Offers the man who wrote 67 identical War and Peace posts about Repole
 
Chris has done way more good for the basketball program than bad. None of us know the exact details of the contract negotiations, extension discussion etc. Time to wish him well and move on. I think it'd be great if he showed up at a game or two at MSG to support the team and new coach. I'm sure he will get way more cheers than boos if he does and deservedly so.
 
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