Malik Ellison

Interesting that Ellison has been named the team captain before he ever played a game with Pittsburgh. Sounds like it is a chance for him to have the opportunity to lead. I hope he gets something positive out of that. It seems like they will have an uphill battle in the ACC.
 
I suppose Malik thinks he wasn’t used correctly during his time here but, he got a lot of minutes to show he could be more than a off the Bench role player. He didn’t show it .
 
Malik wanted to start but wasn't going to on a team with Ponds, Simon and Lovett. I do remember him coming up big in a couple of games we won two years ago and appreciate that he committed at a time when we were hard pressed to get real talent. Pitt looks like a good fit as he will likely get plenty of minutes. Wish him well.
 
He still would not start for us, and would barely get PT if he was here this year.
 
More than a tad surprised anyone finds the need to criticize Malik. He came here when we were desperate for players and gave us his best for 2 seasons. He practiced with and against Simon and Clark his second season and it had to be obvious they were clearly a notch or two above him in talent and were seriously going to take away his minutes. Malik was and is a very good kid I wish him all the very best.
 
I think Malik is going to be a very good player for Pitt. He will surprise those who were down no him here. Wish him the best.
 
[quote="redmannorth" post=300320]More than a tad surprised anyone finds the need to criticize Malik. He came here when we were desperate for players and gave us his best for 2 seasons. He practiced with and against Simon and Clark his second season and it had to be obvious they were clearly a notch or two above him in talent and were seriously going to take away his minutes. Malik was and is a very good kid I wish him all the very best.[/quote]

That's not the point and you should know that. Not a single poster is taking him to task. If he has a solid year at Pitt, great for him, but then of course there will be those who will say we let a good player slip away. Truth is, he was recruited over, got great playing time on some teams berift of depth and there wasn't really a place for him to get serious minutes without an injury. Mussini on the other hand could have been a valued replacement for an injured lovett, and perhaps if he were the loss wouldn't have hurt the team quite as much.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=300333][quote="redmannorth" post=300320]More than a tad surprised anyone finds the need to criticize Malik. He came here when we were desperate for players and gave us his best for 2 seasons. He practiced with and against Simon and Clark his second season and it had to be obvious they were clearly a notch or two above him in talent and were seriously going to take away his minutes. Malik was and is a very good kid I wish him all the very best.[/quote]

That's not the point and you should know that. Not a single poster is taking him to task. If he has a solid year at Pitt, great for him, but then of course there will be those who will say we let a good player slip away. Truth is, he was recruited over, got great playing time on some teams berift of depth and there wasn't really a place for him to get serious minutes without an injury. Mussini on the other hand could have been a valued replacement for an injured lovett, and perhaps if he were the loss wouldn't have hurt the team quite as much.[/quote]

Umm that is the point , no more no less. You don’t have to explain to me or anyone why he left , we are all aware of why he left. And I didn’t use the term taking him to task I said criticizing him , which is what posters were doing.
The simple response to any post about Malik is to wish him the best , real simple. However you chose not to and felt the need to opine on his basketball abilities for whatever reason.
 
[quote="redmannorth" post=300320]More than a tad surprised anyone finds the need to criticize Malik. He came here when we were desperate for players and gave us his best for 2 seasons. He practiced with and against Simon and Clark his second season and it had to be obvious they were clearly a notch or two above him in talent and were seriously going to take away his minutes. Malik was and is a very good kid I wish him all the very best.[/quote]
Don’t think anyone is criticizing him. If anything, he is complaining about how he was used while at SJ.

The fact is, while at SJ, he had a starting position. While here he played ok but had a tendency to want to be “the man” which he was never qualified to be.

Any comments made were in response to his criticism of SJ.
 
[quote="redmannorth" post=300339][quote="Beast of the East" post=300333][quote="redmannorth" post=300320]More than a tad surprised anyone finds the need to criticize Malik. He came here when we were desperate for players and gave us his best for 2 seasons. He practiced with and against Simon and Clark his second season and it had to be obvious they were clearly a notch or two above him in talent and were seriously going to take away his minutes. Malik was and is a very good kid I wish him all the very best.[/quote]

That's not the point and you should know that. Not a single poster is taking him to task. If he has a solid year at Pitt, great for him, but then of course there will be those who will say we let a good player slip away. Truth is, he was recruited over, got great playing time on some teams berift of depth and there wasn't really a place for him to get serious minutes without an injury. Mussini on the other hand could have been a valued replacement for an injured lovett, and perhaps if he were the loss wouldn't have hurt the team quite as much.[/quote]

Umm that is the point , no more no less. You don’t have to explain to me or anyone why he left , we are all aware of why he left. And I didn’t use the term taking him to task I said criticizing him , which is what posters were doing.
The simple response to any post about Malik is to wish him the best , real simple. However you chose not to and felt the need to opine on his basketball abilities for whatever reason.[/quote]

Are you now representing a group? Do class actions work differently in Canada?
 
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[quote="Section3" post=300340][quote="redmannorth" post=300320]More than a tad surprised anyone finds the need to criticize Malik. He came here when we were desperate for players and gave us his best for 2 seasons. He practiced with and against Simon and Clark his second season and it had to be obvious they were clearly a notch or two above him in talent and were seriously going to take away his minutes. Malik was and is a very good kid I wish him all the very best.[/quote]
Don’t think anyone is criticizing him. If anything, he is complaining about how he was used while at SJ.

The fact is, while at SJ, he had a starting position. While here he played ok but had a tendency to want to be “the man” which he was never qualified to be.

Any comments made were in response to his criticism of SJ.[/quote]
Does it really surprise anyone that a kid who leaves this program (or any program, for that matter) is going to have some negative comments on the time spent here (or wherever)? Regardless of the validity of transfers' takes on things, they're giving the reasons why they left from their perspective. What else does anyone expect, love letters? Malik's comments were neither harsh nor vindictive ... so I, too, wish him the very best. He played hard while he was here and apparently was a good teammate, and that's all that counts as far as I'm concerned.
 
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[quote="redken" post=300343][quote="Section3" post=300340][quote="redmannorth" post=300320]More than a tad surprised anyone finds the need to criticize Malik. He came here when we were desperate for players and gave us his best for 2 seasons. He practiced with and against Simon and Clark his second season and it had to be obvious they were clearly a notch or two above him in talent and were seriously going to take away his minutes. Malik was and is a very good kid I wish him all the very best.[/quote]
Don’t think anyone is criticizing him. If anything, he is complaining about how he was used while at SJ.

The fact is, while at SJ, he had a starting position. While here he played ok but had a tendency to want to be “the man” which he was never qualified to be.

Any comments made were in response to his criticism of SJ.[/quote]
Does it really surprise anyone that a kid who leaves this program (or any program, for that matter) is going to have some negative comments on the time spent here (or wherever)? Regardless of the validity of transfers' takes on things, they're giving the reasons why they left from their perspective. What else does anyone expect, love letters? Malik's comments were neither harsh nor vindictive ... so I, too, wish him the very best. He played hard while he was here and apparently was a good teammate, and that's all that counts as far as I'm concerned.[/quote]
I think everyone wishes him the best. He was a solid citizen here.

New rules: From now on, no criticizing players. No one can say anything critical of bad shots, turnovers, defense, fouls,etc.

However feel free to crap on the coaches for their stupidity, laziness, eating habits, stubbornness, failure to close on recruits, how they staff, how often they go home, why they aren't out recruiting 24/7.

Forms will be created listing all the complaints beginning with Looie onward. It will be much easier. And these forms be used for annual reviews. Attendance at games not necessary, nor is watching games. Parroting others on here is allowed. Crackers not included.
 
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I recall thinking at the time of Malik's announcement that he was transferring Mullin was actually going to have a roster that could compete in the big east. As mentioned above this meant that Elison saw his playing time diminishing because of the transfers and this was one of the first signs that SJU was improving.
Of course then LoVett begged out and fouled up the works.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=300344][quote="redken" post=300343][quote="Section3" post=300340][quote="redmannorth" post=300320]More than a tad surprised anyone finds the need to criticize Malik. He came here when we were desperate for players and gave us his best for 2 seasons. He practiced with and against Simon and Clark his second season and it had to be obvious they were clearly a notch or two above him in talent and were seriously going to take away his minutes. Malik was and is a very good kid I wish him all the very best.[/quote]
Don’t think anyone is criticizing him. If anything, he is complaining about how he was used while at SJ.

The fact is, while at SJ, he had a starting position. While here he played ok but had a tendency to want to be “the man” which he was never qualified to be.

Any comments made were in response to his criticism of SJ.[/quote]
Does it really surprise anyone that a kid who leaves this program (or any program, for that matter) is going to have some negative comments on the time spent here (or wherever)? Regardless of the validity of transfers' takes on things, they're giving the reasons why they left from their perspective. What else does anyone expect, love letters? Malik's comments were neither harsh nor vindictive ... so I, too, wish him the very best. He played hard while he was here and apparently was a good teammate, and that's all that counts as far as I'm concerned.[/quote]
I think everyone wishes him the best. He was a solid citizen here.

New rules: From now on, no criticizing players. No one can say anything critical of bad shots, turnovers, defense, fouls,etc.

However feel free to crap on the coaches for their stupidity, laziness, eating habits, stubbornness, failure to close on recruits, how they staff, how often they go home, why they aren't out recruiting 24/7.

Forms will be created listing all the complaints beginning with Looie onward. It will be much easier. And these forms be used for annual reviews. Attendance at games not necessary, nor is watching games. Parroting others on here is allowed. Crackers not included.[/quote]

I find the word “Crackers” highly offensive.
 
[quote="Monte" post=300388][quote="Beast of the East" post=300344][quote="redken" post=300343][quote="Section3" post=300340][quote="redmannorth" post=300320]More than a tad surprised anyone finds the need to criticize Malik. He came here when we were desperate for players and gave us his best for 2 seasons. He practiced with and against Simon and Clark his second season and it had to be obvious they were clearly a notch or two above him in talent and were seriously going to take away his minutes. Malik was and is a very good kid I wish him all the very best.[/quote]
Don’t think anyone is criticizing him. If anything, he is complaining about how he was used while at SJ.

The fact is, while at SJ, he had a starting position. While here he played ok but had a tendency to want to be “the man” which he was never qualified to be.

Any comments made were in response to his criticism of SJ.[/quote]
Does it really surprise anyone that a kid who leaves this program (or any program, for that matter) is going to have some negative comments on the time spent here (or wherever)? Regardless of the validity of transfers' takes on things, they're giving the reasons why they left from their perspective. What else does anyone expect, love letters? Malik's comments were neither harsh nor vindictive ... so I, too, wish him the very best. He played hard while he was here and apparently was a good teammate, and that's all that counts as far as I'm concerned.[/quote]
I think everyone wishes him the best. He was a solid citizen here.

New rules: From now on, no criticizing players. No one can say anything critical of bad shots, turnovers, defense, fouls,etc.

However feel free to crap on the coaches for their stupidity, laziness, eating habits, stubbornness, failure to close on recruits, how they staff, how often they go home, why they aren't out recruiting 24/7.

Forms will be created listing all the complaints beginning with Looie onward. It will be much easier. And these forms be used for annual reviews. Attendance at games not necessary, nor is watching games. Parroting others on here is allowed. Crackers not included.[/quote]

I find the word “Crackers” highly offensive.[/quote]

I kind of knew someone would. PM or text me. It's been too long, M.
 
I agree with Beast on Malik Ellison . He got a lot of minutes here in his 2 years to show what he could do .In Retrospect , he might have played more last year than he anticipated at the time of his transfer . Lovett leaving would have moved him up in playing time and he could have spelled both, Clark and Ahmed as well . Accepting a meaningful Role , while not starting , might have been a Choice he didn’t consider enough . But, freedom to leave was certainly his . I also think , with the Lovett defection , Mussini would have contributed some solid offense and good 3 point shooting , again in a supporting role ., We could have used his sharpshooting skills in quite a few of the close games last year .
 
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