LoVett Finally Honored

I'm surprised to see so much discussion of "one more year..."

For a couple of small guards, a couple years on campus to train and add muscle seems like a good idea. And with a good competitive season next year followed by a significant tournament run the following year, the chances of a legitimate NBA pay check might be more realistic.

Or course, that scenario has more to do with my own selfish interests...

I'm surprised also- I doubt Lovett would sit out a full year, just to play one year, and he is not going to sit out another year to transfer, and Ponds isn't going anywhere.
 
While possible, I find this to be unlikely. A lot of kids don't like school but Lovett worked hard to become eligible and seems very articulate. His goal is to play in the NBA and if he has to take another year of classes to do that I am sure he will. He is majoring in liberal studies and not quantum physics.
How do you know ,w his height, he may think the NBA is a reach and would like the immediate paycheck playing overseas.? My gut tells me he will stay 1 more year. I'm not convinced he knows what he will do at this point of time. Probably will evaluate his options when the season ends.

I said it was possible that he would leave. My gut tells me he will stay one more year also so basically we are in agreement.
 
AM New York has a nice piece toward the back in the sports section this morning (Feb 15), praising Marcus and Shamorie and highlighting our strong performance in the BE so far. It's not in the online version, but in print. Nice feature. Positive and optimistic.
 
If they both come back I think we have a decent shot at the tourney next year. Which probably means one won't be back. Pretty sure Louie Arena is built on an Indian burial ground.
 
AM New York has a nice piece toward the back in the sports section this morning (Feb 15), praising Marcus and Shamorie and highlighting our strong performance in the BE so far. It's not in the online version, but in print. Nice feature. Positive and optimistic.

Any word in the article on either possibly leaving after this season?
 
AM New York has a nice piece toward the back in the sports section this morning (Feb 15), praising Marcus and Shamorie and highlighting our strong performance in the BE so far. It's not in the online version, but in print. Nice feature. Positive and optimistic.

Any word in the article on either possibly leaving after this season?

No, it said we are set for the future with those two and emergence of Owens in front-court. Again those Lovett leaving stories have been out there and people on these boards who seem like they have credible sources(i.e. not Baldi) have said they have heard them. That coupled with Lovett's punctuality issues and his nomadic ways prior to showing up here have me nervous. Honestly would be thrilled if we get one more year from him. Might be my favorite player to watch since Hatten so obviously would love 4 years but things just don't go that way for us and hoping for 2.
 
AM New York has a nice piece toward the back in the sports section this morning (Feb 15), praising Marcus and Shamorie and highlighting our strong performance in the BE so far. It's not in the online version, but in print. Nice feature. Positive and optimistic.

Any word in the article on either possibly leaving after this season?

No, it said we are set for the future with those two and emergence of Owens in front-court. Again those Lovett leaving stories have been out there and people on these boards who seem like they have credible sources(i.e. not Baldi) have said they have heard them. That coupled with Lovett's punctuality issues and his nomadic ways prior to showing up here have me nervous. Honestly would be thrilled if we get one more year from him. Might be my favorite player to watch since Hatten so obviously would love 4 years but things just don't go that way for us and hoping for 2.


I agree one more year of the two of them would be awesome.
 
AM New York has a nice piece toward the back in the sports section this morning (Feb 15), praising Marcus and Shamorie and highlighting our strong performance in the BE so far. It's not in the online version, but in print. Nice feature. Positive and optimistic.

Any word in the article on either possibly leaving after this season?

No, it said we are set for the future with those two and emergence of Owens in front-court. Again those Lovett leaving stories have been out there and people on these boards who seem like they have credible sources(i.e. not Baldi) have said they have heard them. That coupled with Lovett's punctuality issues and his nomadic ways prior to showing up here have me nervous. Honestly would be thrilled if we get one more year from him. Might be my favorite player to watch since Hatten so obviously would love 4 years but things just don't go that way for us and hoping for 2.

Also, the fact that Matt strongly pursued the kid from South Florida suggests the staff believes there is a good chance that a valuable member of our backcourt may not return.
 
AM New York has a nice piece toward the back in the sports section this morning (Feb 15), praising Marcus and Shamorie and highlighting our strong performance in the BE so far. It's not in the online version, but in print. Nice feature. Positive and optimistic.

Any word in the article on either possibly leaving after this season?

No, it said we are set for the future with those two and emergence of Owens in front-court. Again those Lovett leaving stories have been out there and people on these boards who seem like they have credible sources(i.e. not Baldi) have said they have heard them. That coupled with Lovett's punctuality issues and his nomadic ways prior to showing up here have me nervous. Honestly would be thrilled if we get one more year from him. Might be my favorite player to watch since Hatten so obviously would love 4 years but things just don't go that way for us and hoping for 2.

Also, the fact that Matt strongly pursued the kid from South Florida suggests the staff believes there is a good chance that a valuable member of our backcourt may not return.

Unfortunately that is a good point. Especially considering the fact that Simon is coming in.
 
I'm surprised to see so much discussion of "one more year..."

For a couple of small guards, a couple years on campus to train and add muscle seems like a good idea. And with a good competitive season next year followed by a significant tournament run the following year, the chances of a legitimate NBA pay check might be more realistic.

Or course, that scenario has more to do with my own selfish interests...

I'm surprised also- I doubt Lovett would sit out a full year, just to play one year, and he is not going to sit out another year to transfer, and Ponds isn't going anywhere.

Agree with you both and think most would be surprised for all of the legitimate reasons mentioned and others. But surprise in a lot ways has become a regular occurrence on this topic.

In addition to that general point it's been alluded to enough by reliable posters, and there have been enough interesting developments, to think it's at least a reasonable possibility.

Difficult to disparage any player's decision to make money playing professionally. You just hope that decision is smart and considerate of long-term earnings, not just what is available at that moment.

With that in mind key question here, from my outside perspective and with no knowledge of any individual circumstances: "is the NBA realistic?"

If it is, staying in college for at least one more year is likely prudent. It's easier to generate NBA prospect momentum this way, playing for winning team, earning individual accolades, getting media coverage, at a level where scouts have no questions about the competition, etc. An international league as an interim step to further develop towards the NBA while also making money seems to be a less probable proposition if you're a borderline case.

If it isn't, then makes even more sense why someone might want to just start getting paid earlier.

With what they've shown the last month in particular, performing in their first year in the Big East in an exceptionally "complete" manner with very little adjustment period, my view is the NBA is realistic for both of our guards. Perhaps not this year, but in the next few. Lovett has NBA speed and Ponds has NBA skills. They are small and need to get stronger but you look at the last few drafts and what's projected this year, especially in the 2nd round obviously, and there are comparables.

So my hope, not just for SJU but hopefully also for them, is that they are here at least one more year to have a go at generating that kind of pro prospect momentum. But again I don't know anything about any individual situations or any other circumstances. Obviously, both staying would be a massive thing for the program as it gives a very enhanced chance at making the tournament next year and perhaps even more importantly helps bridge to what will hopefully be very strong 2018 recruiting.
 
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