Let's NOT Pay College Athletes

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Let’s Not Pay College Athletes


March 28, 2016 / Wall Street Journal

Whenever March Madness rolls around, evidence of the obvious riches involved in the spectacle of the men’s NCAA Division I basketball tournament—the lavish television coverage, the advertising and the big crowds—prompt cries that college athletes ought to be paid. The NCAA, coaches, schools and the TV networks all benefit handsomely from big-time college sports, say the critics, but the players who make it all possible are stiffed. A recent book called the players “indentured.”

I say not so fast. These athletes are already treated like campus royalty, enjoying far more perks, and richer ones, than their classmates could dream of.

For a start, take an online tour of the John E. Jaqua Academic Center for Student Athletes at the University of Oregon. Inside this edifice of sparkling glass and stainless steel are 40,000 square feet of spaces to facilitate college education. These include an auditorium with 114 leather seats, 35 tutor rooms, 25 academic and life-skills advising offices, a conference room, a computer lab, a graphics lab, library, study carrels, lounge with a wide flat-screen TV and plush sofas, full kitchenette and cafe, all outfitted with state-of-the-art equipment.

Though some university administrators tout the building as the Taj Mahal of academic centers, students have nicknamed it the jock box, because virtually all of its rooms, technology and staff are the exclusive reserve of varsity athletes. These privileged few—about 2.5% of the undergraduate population—can enjoy more than their own private academic rooms. The center furnishes each student athlete with a laptop encased, like the auditorium seats, in Maserati leather.

The main floor sports a screen resembling an airport’s flight-information board that informs individual athletes when and where their private tutoring appointments—1,700 a week—are scheduled. As if to punctuate the exclusiveness, the building, constructed with $41.7 million bestowed by Phil Knight, a University of Oregon alumnus and the founder and chairman of Nike, is surrounded by a moat.

The Jaqua Center may be extreme in extravagance but it is representative of similar centers at elite sports schools—check out Paul W. Bryant Hall at the University of Alabama; the Stephen M. Ross Academic Center at the University of Michigan; or the Dick and Peg Herman Family Student Life Complex at the University of Nebraska. They demonstrate why those who advocate that college athletes be paid are missing a vital point. On top of their $40,000-$50,000 scholarships and presumably debt-free education, these athletes enjoy luxury and academic services that ordinary students cannot access, much less afford.

Athletes in big-time “revenue” college sports—mainly football and men’s basketball—garner benefits that compare favorably with those of their professional counterparts. They can take advantage of the best coaching; the best medical care; the best trainers; the most modern weight and conditioning equipment, hydrotherapy pools, and devices to speed recovery from injury. They walk the campus in high-price athletic and leisure attire, often provided free by Nike, Under Armour, Adidas and the like; and they are fed specialized, nutritious diets.

Football players get top treatment. Almost all schools in the richest Power Five conferences boast an upscale football performance (training) center. At Oregon, the 145,000-square-foot football center (about half the size of the average Wal-Mart) houses three indoor practice fields, a two-story weight room, multiple whirlpools and trainers’ tables, lockers the size of a crypt, several plush lounges with flat-screen TVs and gaming stations, a cafeteria, conference and classrooms, a pool table and barber shop. The Anderson Training Center at the University of Tennessee also spans 145,000 square feet, and includes an indoor practice field, multilevel weight and cardio area, nutrition bar, a 7,000-square-foot locker room (well-ventilated) with connections for mobile devices at each locker, five hydrotherapy pools, a physician clinic, X-ray room, pharmacy, amphitheater, lounge with videogame consoles and dining hall.

The Paul W. Bryant Hall at the University of Alabama offers all these features plus arcade games and a climate-controlled room that fumigates players’ shoes.

It may be difficult to calculate the dollar value of all these facilities and services, but it is likely that membership in many posh country clubs costs less. Yes, surveys show that most big-time athletes devote 40-60 hours a week practicing, playing and traveling for their sport, and some do help earn millions for their school. College athletes do deserve to be compensated when their images are used for commercial purposes.

But it is a little hard to accept claims about athletes being exploited when they live so opulently. And once a university constructs an expensive Jaqua Center or lavish football training center, its rivals feel pressure to keep pace or outdo. The resulting perks are the costliest and most outlandish feature of the college sports “arms race,” and athletes are the beneficiaries. So perhaps the next best thing to being a millionaire is living like one—all while getting a free college education.

Mr. Chudacoff is a history professor at Brown University and the author of “Changing the Playbook: How Power, Profit, and Politics Transformed College Sports” (University of Illinois Press, 2015).
 
Let’s Not Pay College Athletes


March 28, 2016 / Wall Street Journal

Whenever March Madness rolls around, evidence of the obvious riches involved in the spectacle of the men’s NCAA Division I basketball tournament—the lavish television coverage, the advertising and the big crowds—prompt cries that college athletes ought to be paid. The NCAA, coaches, schools and the TV networks all benefit handsomely from big-time college sports, say the critics, but the players who make it all possible are stiffed. A recent book called the players “indentured.”

I say not so fast. These athletes are already treated like campus royalty, enjoying far more perks, and richer ones, than their classmates could dream of.

For a start, take an online tour of the John E. Jaqua Academic Center for Student Athletes at the University of Oregon. Inside this edifice of sparkling glass and stainless steel are 40,000 square feet of spaces to facilitate college education. These include an auditorium with 114 leather seats, 35 tutor rooms, 25 academic and life-skills advising offices, a conference room, a computer lab, a graphics lab, library, study carrels, lounge with a wide flat-screen TV and plush sofas, full kitchenette and cafe, all outfitted with state-of-the-art equipment.

Though some university administrators tout the building as the Taj Mahal of academic centers, students have nicknamed it the jock box, because virtually all of its rooms, technology and staff are the exclusive reserve of varsity athletes. These privileged few—about 2.5% of the undergraduate population—can enjoy more than their own private academic rooms. The center furnishes each student athlete with a laptop encased, like the auditorium seats, in Maserati leather.

The main floor sports a screen resembling an airport’s flight-information board that informs individual athletes when and where their private tutoring appointments—1,700 a week—are scheduled. As if to punctuate the exclusiveness, the building, constructed with $41.7 million bestowed by Phil Knight, a University of Oregon alumnus and the founder and chairman of Nike, is surrounded by a moat.

The Jaqua Center may be extreme in extravagance but it is representative of similar centers at elite sports schools—check out Paul W. Bryant Hall at the University of Alabama; the Stephen M. Ross Academic Center at the University of Michigan; or the Dick and Peg Herman Family Student Life Complex at the University of Nebraska. They demonstrate why those who advocate that college athletes be paid are missing a vital point. On top of their $40,000-$50,000 scholarships and presumably debt-free education, these athletes enjoy luxury and academic services that ordinary students cannot access, much less afford.

Athletes in big-time “revenue” college sports—mainly football and men’s basketball—garner benefits that compare favorably with those of their professional counterparts. They can take advantage of the best coaching; the best medical care; the best trainers; the most modern weight and conditioning equipment, hydrotherapy pools, and devices to speed recovery from injury. They walk the campus in high-price athletic and leisure attire, often provided free by Nike, Under Armour, Adidas and the like; and they are fed specialized, nutritious diets.

Football players get top treatment. Almost all schools in the richest Power Five conferences boast an upscale football performance (training) center. At Oregon, the 145,000-square-foot football center (about half the size of the average Wal-Mart) houses three indoor practice fields, a two-story weight room, multiple whirlpools and trainers’ tables, lockers the size of a crypt, several plush lounges with flat-screen TVs and gaming stations, a cafeteria, conference and classrooms, a pool table and barber shop. The Anderson Training Center at the University of Tennessee also spans 145,000 square feet, and includes an indoor practice field, multilevel weight and cardio area, nutrition bar, a 7,000-square-foot locker room (well-ventilated) with connections for mobile devices at each locker, five hydrotherapy pools, a physician clinic, X-ray room, pharmacy, amphitheater, lounge with videogame consoles and dining hall.

The Paul W. Bryant Hall at the University of Alabama offers all these features plus arcade games and a climate-controlled room that fumigates players’ shoes.

It may be difficult to calculate the dollar value of all these facilities and services, but it is likely that membership in many posh country clubs costs less. Yes, surveys show that most big-time athletes devote 40-60 hours a week practicing, playing and traveling for their sport, and some do help earn millions for their school. College athletes do deserve to be compensated when their images are used for commercial purposes.

But it is a little hard to accept claims about athletes being exploited when they live so opulently. And once a university constructs an expensive Jaqua Center or lavish football training center, its rivals feel pressure to keep pace or outdo. The resulting perks are the costliest and most outlandish feature of the college sports “arms race,” and athletes are the beneficiaries. So perhaps the next best thing to being a millionaire is living like one—all while getting a free college education.

Mr. Chudacoff is a history professor at Brown University and the author of “Changing the Playbook: How Power, Profit, and Politics Transformed College Sports” (University of Illinois Press, 2015).

Was this article a paid ad by the NCAA? While athletes are willing participants in the college system as training grounds for potential professional careers, stating that they live opulently is a bit off the mark. Most college dorms, whether athletic dorms or not, are cinderblock walls and vinyl covered mattresses. Even in suites, cleaning services usually not provided, and showers are breeding grounds for fungus and other infections. Even at schools that tout there dining facilities as world class cuisine many students identify it as slop. A university professor as author knows full well that his paycheck is in part paid by the revenue produced by near world class athletes who are compensated with an education that most don't complete and room and board that is requisite for them to ply trade to fill stadiums and generate TV revenue.

I don't think any system to compensate athletes will ever go anywhere because of innumerable problems implementing it. However that's a far cry from stating there is any equity for athletes who in the aggregate generate billions of dollars directly and indirectly for their school. His statement of what a fair deal it is to have athletes live for free in opulent surroundings drew unfair images in my mind of an 1850s slave owner proclaiming the nice working conditions for those working in the main house. I never liked the slavery comparisons for athletes, but just think of how athletes are treated in sports and at schools that don't generate tons of revenue for the school. No world class facilities, no charter planes, no special housing. Those that are provided better circumstances are done so by schools in quest of the almighty dollar and nothing more.

University professors are sometimes paid in part by teaching load, which includes total number of students. Some full time faculty are often in the classroom less than 12 hours per week. They are among the cushiest jobs in America. Some don't even grade their own exams, handing them off to graduate assistants or worse - and give the same exams year after year. They have plenty of time to serve in tons of capacities outside the university.

A guy drawing a full-time salary working so little as a teacher should compare himself to a student athlete who puts in a double workload as FT student and D1 athlete. This author is a giant hypocrite.
 
Most major conference schools, including the Big East, are paying their players under the table. Happens everywhere, even you know where.

This article is a farce.
 
The whole "they should be grateful for what they get" rhetoric reeks of sweatshop narrative. Yes, people work voluntarily at sweatshops in 3rd world countries and those that run them prey on the fact that even with long hours and severe underpayment, they still have it better than those around them. While I'm not comparing what college athletes receive to the circumstances around someone or a family working in a sweatshop, I am comparing the narrative surrounding the two issues. It's very similar, and amateurism apologists use the same rhetoric.

Those lavish facilities at major schools distract from the fact that the athletes are the only folks in their industry that are restricted financially. Until all athletes are able to benefit off the free market, collegiate sports will be a cartel.
 
But they are not restricted financially. If they don't want to go to school they can get a job just like any other tradesman, and lets face it that's all they are if they're not interested in getting an education. NBDL and overseas. Better pay than most HS grads without any college education. People who can cook still go to CIA to raise their stock in their industry, same for basketball players and D1, except CIA students pay for it. D1 athletes get the exposure gratis.
 
But they are not restricted financially. If they don't want to go to school they can get a job just like any other tradesman, and lets face it that's all they are if they're not interested in getting an education. NBDL and overseas. Better pay than most HS grads without any college education. People who can cook still go to CIA to raise their stock in their industry, same for basketball players and D1, except CIA students pay for it. D1 athletes get the exposure gratis.

"if people in Indonesia don't like working in sweatshops why don't they just move to a better country?" -the sweatshop rhetoric equivalent.

How about improving the situation within college basketball? Give a reason why student-athletes should be restricted financially.
 
But they are not restricted financially. If they don't want to go to school they can get a job just like any other tradesman, and lets face it that's all they are if they're not interested in getting an education. NBDL and overseas. Better pay than most HS grads without any college education. People who can cook still go to CIA to raise their stock in their industry, same for basketball players and D1, except CIA students pay for it. D1 athletes get the exposure gratis.

I read his comments to infer that on many college campuses, there is a huge disparity between the haves and have not students. The haves come from wealthier families, are given enough spending money, dress better, and don't have to work on campus to provide spending money. Despite being treated like stars on campus, it's not like they live a lavish lifestyle.
 
Because student athletes shouldn't have advantages over other students. The only financial restriction issue I see that I could agree with you on is them not being allowed to have jobs. Let them have jobs, provided their tax forms are reviewed each year to ensure they are real jobs with appropriate pay levels and not impermissible benefits, i.e. overpaid or no show jobs. Other kids on schollies have jobs.

PS I don't see how paying them improves the situation for anyone but them. Their choice again.
 
But they are not restricted financially. If they don't want to go to school they can get a job just like any other tradesman, and lets face it that's all they are if they're not interested in getting an education. NBDL and overseas. Better pay than most HS grads without any college education. People who can cook still go to CIA to raise their stock in their industry, same for basketball players and D1, except CIA students pay for it. D1 athletes get the exposure gratis.

I read his comments to infer that on many college campuses, there is a huge disparity between the haves and have not students. The haves come from wealthier families, are given enough spending money, dress better, and don't have to work on campus to provide spending money. Despite being treated like stars on campus, it's not like they live a lavish lifestyle.

What about the have nots who can't dunk?
 
But they are not restricted financially. If they don't want to go to school they can get a job just like any other tradesman, and lets face it that's all they are if they're not interested in getting an education. NBDL and overseas. Better pay than most HS grads without any college education. People who can cook still go to CIA to raise their stock in their industry, same for basketball players and D1, except CIA students pay for it. D1 athletes get the exposure gratis.

I read his comments to infer that on many college campuses, there is a huge disparity between the haves and have not students. The haves come from wealthier families, are given enough spending money, dress better, and don't have to work on campus to provide spending money. Despite being treated like stars on campus, it's not like they live a lavish lifestyle.

What about the have nots who can't dunk?

:p I'm just a little sensitive to that subject with a kid in college where a lot of students come from a lot of money. Often D1 athletes in marquee sports come from the opposite end of the spectrum, and I think it affects some kids ability to feel comfortable in those environments and assimilate as students.
 
Most major conference schools, including the Big East, are paying their players under the table. Happens everywhere, even you know where.

This article is a farce.

Now that L'Ville and Syracuse are gone, do you still think BE schools pay their players? If so who?
 
But they are not restricted financially. If they don't want to go to school they can get a job just like any other tradesman, and lets face it that's all they are if they're not interested in getting an education. NBDL and overseas. Better pay than most HS grads without any college education. People who can cook still go to CIA to raise their stock in their industry, same for basketball players and D1, except CIA students pay for it. D1 athletes get the exposure gratis.

I read his comments to infer that on many college campuses, there is a huge disparity between the haves and have not students. The haves come from wealthier families, are given enough spending money, dress better, and don't have to work on campus to provide spending money. Despite being treated like stars on campus, it's not like they live a lavish lifestyle.

What about the have nots who can't dunk?

:p I'm just a little sensitive to that subject with a kid in college where a lot of students come from a lot of money. Often D1 athletes in marquee sports come from the opposite end of the spectrum, and I think it affects some kids ability to feel comfortable in those environments and assimilate as students.

What I'd rather see is that money and a helluva lot more spent to assist a lot more have nots into college. That might make the less economically fortunate college students, athletes and nonathletes, feel a bit more comfortable, certainly moreso than giving money to the basketball players.

My daughter's in a public uni and I don't hear those types of stories from her but my niece spent a semester at Occidental and felt so out of place going to school with rich kids and child actors who didn't GAF about anything but the parties. She had to leave. Guess I saw some of that at Cornell but I think it wasn't quite the same back in the old days.
 
Most major conference schools, including the Big East, are paying their players under the table. Happens everywhere, even you know where.

This article is a farce.

Now that L'Ville and Syracuse are gone, do you still think BE schools pay their players? If so who?

dont even give him the time of day
 
I would be more willing to accept the "no pay" spin if the colleges guaranteed free tuition and room and board to D1 scholarship athletes in revenue sports who become injured, don't graduate in the 4 year time period, are pushed off of the athletic team for underperformance, and if the coaches actually pushed the players to attend class and graduate.

IMO there is absolutely no reason why D1 athletes in revenue sports do not receive a stipend (a/k/a "walking around money") to allow the kid to purchase a soda and pizza since many athletes come from poor/ lower economic families.
 
Can schools assist with getting kids home for funerals (or imminent ones)? If not, I'd like to see schools be able to pay for airfare, etc.

But actually paying players simply for being players gets messy. Who gets paid, everyone or just football/basketball players? And how much? I personally would say $1,000 should be the absolute highest, but there's no way to keep dirty schools like UNC from paying 10 times that amount.

But I assume it is probably less messy to identify the kids who are really broke and getting nothing from home, and prioritizing them for an on-campus job.
 
I would be more willing to accept the "no pay" spin if the colleges guaranteed free tuition and room and board to D1 scholarship athletes in revenue sports who become injured, don't graduate in the 4 year time period, are pushed off of the athletic team for underperformance, and if the coaches actually pushed the players to attend class and graduate.

IMO there is absolutely no reason why D1 athletes in revenue sports do not receive a stipend (a/k/a "walking around money") to allow the kid to purchase a soda and pizza since many athletes come from poor/ lower economic families.

Their economic backgrounds should not be an issue. What should matter is that these sports bring in Billions, and like professional sports, the players deserve to be compensated.
 
Because student athletes shouldn't have advantages over other students. The only financial restriction issue I see that I could agree with you on is them not being allowed to have jobs. Let them have jobs, provided their tax forms are reviewed each year to ensure they are real jobs with appropriate pay levels and not impermissible benefits, i.e. overpaid or no show jobs. Other kids on schollies have jobs.

PS I don't see how paying them improves the situation for anyone but them. Their choice again.

Upon further review I've decided the jobs would have to be on campus work study so the uni can better monitor the hours and pay.
 
Can schools assist with getting kids home for funerals (or imminent ones)? If not, I'd like to see schools be able to pay for airfare, etc.

But actually paying players simply for being players gets messy. Who gets paid, everyone or just football/basketball players? And how much? I personally would say $1,000 should be the absolute highest, but there's no way to keep dirty schools like UNC from paying 10 times that amount.

But I assume it is probably less messy to identify the kids who are really broke and getting nothing from home, and prioritizing them for an on-campus job.

Don't forget the Title IX issue also if you start paying.
 
And Title IX is a federal law not some NCAA regulation that the football schools can run away from and start their own association.
 
I would be more willing to accept the "no pay" spin if the colleges guaranteed free tuition and room and board to D1 scholarship athletes in revenue sports who become injured, don't graduate in the 4 year time period, are pushed off of the athletic team for underperformance, and if the coaches actually pushed the players to attend class and graduate.

IMO there is absolutely no reason why D1 athletes in revenue sports do not receive a stipend (a/k/a "walking around money") to allow the kid to purchase a soda and pizza since many athletes come from poor/ lower economic families.

Their economic backgrounds should not be an issue. What should matter is that these sports bring in Billions, and like professional sports, the players deserve to be compensated.

They are already compensated in terms of free housing and tuition though. It's not like they are getting nothing.
 
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