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redstorm89
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didn't say anything new. but it sounds like he may be out for the season. says he has full faith in the staff while he is out recruiting.
I posted that he was coming on then Tarik Turner put me asleep before Lav came on . Turner was working the post game w/ Gary Apple and Tim Welsh. Talk about a guy in a downard spiral- Welsh. He went from coaching Providence to 2 Ncaa trips, to get fired at Providence, to landing the Hofstra job-- only to lose it because of a DWI--- to breaking down Conn / Sfla with Tarik Turner at 11 30 pm on SNY.
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Some thoughts:
Lav likened himself to a "general manager" last year also so his comment is consistent with how he views himself running the program;
He has not given any indication he will not or cannot return to coaching this season ...none!
IF he "cannot" return, it would be because of some serious side-effects from his surgery (incontinence) but would have nothing to do with the cancer. That said, I have know folks that do heavy labor that have returned within three months if they did not have serious side-effects. So, all the doom and gloom folks stirring the pot should be confident that there is no long-term cancer issue with Lav.
If he is out recruiting, he is actually doing the most important function at this time since we lost 4 talented recruits (Polee, Gathers, Norvel and Jakarr) that would have made this team a nationally ranked contender in 2012-13. If Lav brings in 2 or 3 recruits of that caliber.....especially Gathers and Sampson......along with the Woody kid and PG and back-up big, next year we will have forgotten about Lav's health issues, the 15 projected losses and the shake-up of the Big East.
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Now this just might be my take on this, but the people who are "defending" Steve Lavin are actually doing Lavin as big a disservice as the knuckleheads hinting he is sicker than has been reported. Coach states he is cancer free and really it is no ones buisness to question him. The arm chair doctors that are quoting time tables for his return and discussing various very personal side effects of his surgery are just as bad as anyone claiming he is still sick or whatever. Who is to say when someone is recovered even if they are cancer free? Is every situation the same? Hell two people can have the same exact knee surgery and have different recovery periods. Let the man be!
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We Are SJU, you are certainly entitled to your "take" on the Lavin situation and for the most part most would agree with you.
However, we are not talking about some Joe Schmo here. Lav is a very "public figure". As such, friends and foe will make statements in support or in negative opinions and rumors. It goes with the territory. I was happy to see him at the Coaches Vs. Cancer games. Yes, that return was premature and may have had some negative recuperative effects but the CvsC event is meant to bring awareness to cancer and its cure. It is not for the faint of heart or those that want to be "private" about their illness. In fact, it is healthier to discuss your cancer than to hide it. Trust me, I know.
That said, the negative publicity of Lav's absence is taking a toll on the program that most of you live and die for here. That negativity is obvious by a few "fans" in addition to non-SJ supporters. On JJ there are a couple of guys that make second-guessing Lav's condition a cottage industry. I think most know who they are.
On the contrary, like most public figures, Lavin needs to be very open about his PC so that other men will get both tested and treated.
I just watched the interview on dvr. Lavin looked and sounded great but didnt pinpoint a date for his return. He had a couple of funny lines too--- calling when Harkless takes the ball coast to coast "dribbling down Main St" and also called his very deep staff " the oceans eleven "....
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Per Katz on ESPN:
"Steve Lavin is 1-0 in the Big East and 7-5 this season overall, even though Lavin has coached in only four games due to his ongoing recovery from prostate cancer surgery. St. John’s spokesperson Mark Fratto said the NCAA and Big East instructed the Red Storm to put all wins and losses on Lavin’s record while he continues his recovery instead of assistant Mike Dunlap, who is taking over for Lavin in his absence."
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The "Pitino Retiring" story was a non-story! All he said was that he is 59 and did not expect to coach when his contract expires....IN SIX YEARS when he is 65.
Calhoun and Boeheim are both over 65 and my crystal ball tells me they may coach a couple of more years...at the least.
As for Lav, if you read all the opinions and comments over on JJ, he is (a) not returning this season...reported by non-other than We Are SJU who says we should "leave the man alone"..... So much for not spreading baseless rumors!
(b) leaving SJ for the west coast at the urging of his wife; (c) returning for the Providence game.....by non-other than Baldi......the first time he has been wrong; (d) resigning as head coach and becoming the assistant coach to Cluess; and finally, one that I will start here on redmen ...... "Dr. Scardino to Lav....."coach, I am one of the leading surgeons in America for prostate cancer......if you do not come back in a few weeks, my reputation will go in the toilet since prospective patients may say...."hey, that coach over at SJ had surgery over 4 months ago and still can't work!" Lav bites the bullet...buys a three month supply of male Depends, and comes back for the Louisville game at the world's greatest arena on January 3rd.
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I never said he was not coming back. I said I have heard from two different people that THEIR OPINION BASED ON WHAT THEY HAD HEARD IS HE MAY TAKE THE REST OF THE SEASON OFF. I also stated I do not know if this is accurate or not but simply the story is out there and it is not just something Baldi is making up.
I also never claimed that he is sick, but maybe his recovery is going to take longer than others. My argument is over the strange belief by some that Lavin's phone in calls are squelching the rumors. I feel the opposite is occuring. I do not think it is the end of the world if coach has to miss the entire season to get to 100%. If he comes back this season that is obviously great. I do think we should stop putting a timetable on this and stop speculating on his possible symptoms as well.
