Lavin needs to be seen

[logen]

No offense, but how come these same type of threads, in reference to Lavin returning, continue to pop up every week?

 

I think they will until he returns and that's just the nature of the beast. Obviously traveling all over the country is taxing in itself. Anyone who's done it knows that. Some would argue that it's moreso than walking down from the skybox to the bench and parking himself on a cushion while Dunlap does his thing. Recruiting is all about appearances and his total absence makes it tougher no doubt, especially with the competition out there. It's his decision but all decisions have consequences.

 

There is no need to rehash this after every game or every week. Besides, what are you gonna say about Lavin when he reels in a solid, recruiting class in the spring?

 

He will find something to say. The most disjointed fan base out there continues to not let me and my predictions down.

 

Moose, truer words were never spoken.

 

[MJDinkins]

No offense, but how come these same type of threads, in reference to Lavin returning, continue to pop up every week?

 

I think they will until he returns and that's just the nature of the beast. Obviously traveling all over the country is taxing in itself. Anyone who's done it knows that. Some would argue that it's moreso than walking down from the skybox to the bench and parking himself on a cushion while Dunlap does his thing. Recruiting is all about appearances and his total absence makes it tougher no doubt, especially with the competition out there. It's his decision but all decisions have consequences.

 

There is no need to rehash this after every game or every week. Besides, what are you gonna say about Lavin when he reels in a solid, recruiting class in the spring?

 

[Of course I'll praise him and jump right on the bandwagon. Right now though I prefer to go by what I see and hear. Steve did a good , not great, job last year with Norm's players and his only recruit left town.
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Bobre Lavin took a bunch of kids who never won everything in their college career other than a fluke game here or there and put all the schools who they hadnt beaten on a board before the season and told them the goal was they were going to beat each and every one of them and had what was probably the single best streak in the middle of the year that I've seen in a long time. Clobbering Duke and a host of others and winning at Nova.

That's only a good job ?   

 

He's so transparent that he doesn't deserve a response, maher.

 

[bobre45]

No offense, but how come these same type of threads, in reference to Lavin returning, continue to pop up every week?

 

I think they will until he returns and that's just the nature of the beast. Obviously traveling all over the country is taxing in itself. Anyone who's done it knows that. Some would argue that it's moreso than walking down from the skybox to the bench and parking himself on a cushion while Dunlap does his thing. Recruiting is all about appearances and his total absence makes it tougher no doubt, especially with the competition out there. It's his decision but all decisions have consequences.

 

There is no need to rehash this after every game or every week. Besides, what are you gonna say about Lavin when he reels in a solid, recruiting class in the spring?

 

[Of course I'll praise him and jump right on the bandwagon. Right now though I prefer to go by what I see and hear. Steve did a good , not great, job last year with Norm's players and his only recruit left town.
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Bobre Lavin took a bunch of kids who never won everything in their college career other than a fluke game here or there and put all the schools who they hadnt beaten on a board before the season and told them the goal was they were going to beat each and every one of them and had what was probably the single best streak in the middle of the year that I've seen in a long time. Clobbering Duke and a host of others and winning at Nova.

That's only a good job ?   

 

He's so transparent that he doesn't deserve a response, maher.

 

Maybe I'm a tough marker but I don't award a "great" for coaching another coaches' players. The talent was there to begin with. This year it's only half there. A full roster would have been great.

 

[SJU1512]

While it would obviously be beneficial to have Coach back on the sidelines for a multitude of reasons, it's also obvious that Lavin, his doctors, and our NBA level coaching staff are acutely aware of what is best for his health first, our program second, and are doing everything to find a medium between those two things without compromising #1. To the extent that his not being on the sideline is hurting our recruiting (if it even is), he would be more aware of that than we are and would have a better idea of the best way to solve the problem within the boundaries of his recovery process.

I'm not entirely sold that being on the sideline - again, even though that's what we all want to see - is going to be more assuring to a recruit and his famiily regarding Lavin's health and future commitment to this program than him travelling thousands of miles to be at more of their games than most other head coaches are able this time of year. Likewise, I'm also not sold that being on the sidelines offers a better chance of securing these kids than what Lavin is doing now. Maybe, but maybe not. He obviously thinks this is the best route given the circumstances, so I'm going to go with that.

 

[bobre45]

While it would obviously be beneficial to have Coach back on the sidelines for a multitude of reasons, it's also obvious that Lavin, his doctors, and our NBA level coaching staff are acutely aware of what is best for his health first, our program second, and are doing everything to find a medium between those two things without compromising #1. To the extent that his not being on the sideline is hurting our recruiting (if it even is), he would be more aware of that than we are and would have a better idea of the best way to solve the problem within the boundaries of his recovery process.

I'm not entirely sold that being on the sideline - again, even though that's what we all want to see - is going to be more assuring to a recruit and his famiily regarding Lavin's health and future commitment to this program than him travelling thousands of miles to be at more of their games than most other head coaches are able this time of year. Likewise, I'm also not sold that being on the sidelines offers a better chance of securing these kids than what Lavin is doing now. Maybe, but maybe not. He obviously thinks this is the best route given the circumstances, so I'm going to go with that.

 

Steve's decision is his alone but the skybox view is lousy aside from closed circuit TV. Maybe he'd be more comfortable at home.

 

[LJSA]

Steve's decision is his alone but the skybox view is lousy aside from closed circuit TV. Maybe he'd be more comfortable at home.

 

Aside from being a shitty coach, do you think Mark Jackson even knew who D'Angelo Harrison was? With him as coach we'd have a Norm-like roster.

He's never coaching here, and he'll be out of a job by next season. It's time to lose the bitterness.

 

[bobre45]

Steve's decision is his alone but the skybox view is lousy aside from closed circuit TV. Maybe he'd be more comfortable at home.

 

Aside from being a shitty coach, do you think Mark Jackson even knew who D'Angelo Harrison was? With him as coach we'd have a Norm-like roster.

He's never coaching here, and he'll be out of a job by next season. It's time to lose the bitterness.

 

Hey, if I and everyone else on the board knew who he was I think Mark might have found out. I also think he might have signed a legit PG but we'll never know. I think it's a little early to call him a shitty coach. Suit yourself. He is a pretty wealthy one though. It'll be interesting to see who stays longer, To be continued......

 

[austour]

No offense, but how come these same type of threads, in reference to Lavin returning, continue to pop up every week?

 

I think they will until he returns and that's just the nature of the beast. Obviously traveling all over the country is taxing in itself. Anyone who's done it knows that. Some would argue that it's moreso than walking down from the skybox to the bench and parking himself on a cushion while Dunlap does his thing. Recruiting is all about appearances and his total absence makes it tougher no doubt, especially with the competition out there. It's his decision but all decisions have consequences.

 

Your proposal is weak on a number of fronts.

First, it's not in Lavs nature to sit and watch on the bench. If he was able to do that and still conduct the full duties of a game coach he likely would have done that but he's gotta jump, twist, yell and dance. That's what took him from recovering well and downgraded his condition in the first place after those few games trying to coach. PS, he doesn't have to conduct any of those histrionics on recruiting trips which is why he can do that and not game coach. Yes, traveling can be taxing but not really in the physical manner that would exacerbate his condition.

Second, it would never work for him to sit there a la Keady while Dunlap performs game day coaches duties. He's the guy that recruited this team to play for him. Kids would be looking to him for confirmation, advice, etc... thereby reducing Dunlaps effectiveness. If last nights game thread told us anything its that Dunlap is barely effective as it is. (rolly eyes emoticon for those that don't realize that's a joke).

 

[LJSA]

I think it's a little early to call him a shitty coach. Suit yourself. He is a pretty wealthy one though.

 

Maybe he can use that wealth to hire Dunlap to give him some coaching lessons.

 

[Absolutfan]

No offense, but how come these same type of threads, in reference to Lavin returning, continue to pop up every week?

 

I think they will until he returns and that's just the nature of the beast. Obviously traveling all over the country is taxing in itself. Anyone who's done it knows that. Some would argue that it's moreso than walking down from the skybox to the bench and parking himself on a cushion while Dunlap does his thing. Recruiting is all about appearances and his total absence makes it tougher no doubt, especially with the competition out there. It's his decision but all decisions have consequences.

 

There is no need to rehash this after every game or every week. Besides, what are you gonna say about Lavin when he reels in a solid, recruiting class in the spring?

 

Of course I'll praise him and jump right on the bandwagon. Right now though I prefer to go by what I see and hear. Steve did a good , not great, job last year with Norm's players and his only recruit left town. This year the Nuri, Sampson, Pelle, Roberts, and Q situations plus the illness problem leave him with an "incomplete" in my grade book. I hope it all works out but nobody really knows at this point. In Louie I trusted but Steve is still a newcomer to me at this point.

 

Look, i have not always been known to be the most positive poster there is on here but when it comes to last year, Lavin did a STUPENDOUS JOB. Norm didnt even know who his good players were. How often did we watch hardy and Brownlee, arguably our best players, ride the bench. Blowing out Dook at the Garden, the Pitt win etc. was a great feat.

 

[austour]

No offense, but how come these same type of threads, in reference to Lavin returning, continue to pop up every week?

 

I think they will until he returns and that's just the nature of the beast. Obviously traveling all over the country is taxing in itself. Anyone who's done it knows that. Some would argue that it's moreso than walking down from the skybox to the bench and parking himself on a cushion while Dunlap does his thing. Recruiting is all about appearances and his total absence makes it tougher no doubt, especially with the competition out there. It's his decision but all decisions have consequences.

 

There is no need to rehash this after every game or every week. Besides, what are you gonna say about Lavin when he reels in a solid, recruiting class in the spring?

 

Of course I'll praise him and jump right on the bandwagon. Right now though I prefer to go by what I see and hear. Steve did a good , not great, job last year with Norm's players and his only recruit left town. This year the Nuri, Sampson, Pelle, Roberts, and Q situations plus the illness problem leave him with an "incomplete" in my grade book. I hope it all works out but nobody really knows at this point. In Louie I trusted but Steve is still a newcomer to me at this point.

 

Look, i have not always been known to be the most positive poster there is

 


No kidding. :lol:

 

[MCNPA]

No offense, but how come these same type of threads, in reference to Lavin returning, continue to pop up every week?

 

I think they will until he returns and that's just the nature of the beast. Obviously traveling all over the country is taxing in itself. Anyone who's done it knows that. Some would argue that it's moreso than walking down from the skybox to the bench and parking himself on a cushion while Dunlap does his thing. Recruiting is all about appearances and his total absence makes it tougher no doubt, especially with the competition out there. It's his decision but all decisions have consequences.

 

There is no need to rehash this after every game or every week. Besides, what are you gonna say about Lavin when he reels in a solid, recruiting class in the spring?

 

Of course I'll praise him and jump right on the bandwagon. Right now though I prefer to go by what I see and hear. Steve did a good , not great, job last year with Norm's players and his only recruit left town. This year the Nuri, Sampson, Pelle, Roberts, and Q situations plus the illness problem leave him with an "incomplete" in my grade book. I hope it all works out but nobody really knows at this point. In Louie I trusted but Steve is still a newcomer to me at this point.

 

Look, i have not always been known to be the most positive poster there is on here but when it comes to last year, Lavin did a STUPENDOUS JOB. Norm didnt even know who his good players were. How often did we watch hardy and Brownlee, arguably our best players, ride the bench. Blowing out Dook at the Garden, the Pitt win etc. was a great feat.

 

I'd add that the staff is once again doing a stupendous job this season with developing our players. An entire freshmen roster and we're nearly beating Duke AT Cameron mid-season. Look at how all these kids are developing and it is amazing. The fact that we are shorthanded shouldn't underscore how well these kids are all coming along. It's a window into how good we can be with a few more pieces and a year of experience starting next season. IF Lavin can land a few of the big guys we're targeting, and maybe nab a shooter, I see no reason we shouldn't be a top 3 Big East team next season and making a nice tourney run.

 

[DieHard Johnny]

Steve's decision is his alone but the skybox view is lousy aside from closed circuit TV. Maybe he'd be more comfortable at home.

 

Aside from being a shitty coach, do you think Mark Jackson even knew who D'Angelo Harrison was? With him as coach we'd have a Norm-like roster.

He's never coaching here, and he'll be out of a job by next season. It's time to lose the bitterness.

 


Where do come off call Mark Jax Shitty?
Mark is a all time Johnny helped take us to final 4 & win a BE title!
Mark is a a successful johnny with class that you wish you had :yell:

 

[simplyred]

Look, i have not always been known to be the most positive poster there is on here but when it comes to last year, Lavin did a STUPENDOUS JOB. Norm didnt even know who his good players were. How often did we watch hardy and Brownlee, arguably our best players, ride the bench. Blowing out Dook at the Garden, the Pitt win etc. was a great feat.

 

Didn't you just pretend, in another thread, not to know who "realfan" is? In this thread, you speak about your reputation as a poster. C'mon man, fess up!

 

[Class of 72]

Look, i have not always been known to be the most positive poster there is on here but when it comes to last year, Lavin did a STUPENDOUS JOB. Norm didnt even know who his good players were. How often did we watch hardy and Brownlee, arguably our best players, ride the bench. Blowing out Dook at the Garden, the Pitt win etc. was a great feat.

 

Didn't you just pretend, in another thread, not to know who "realfan" is? In this thread, you speak about your reputation as a poster. C'mon man, fess up!

 

Pretty soon redmen.com will be back to having all its original members---good and bad. LOL! Once the Maven is back, the circle will be complete.

 

[peanut]

Look, i have not always been known to be the most positive poster there is on here but when it comes to last year, Lavin did a STUPENDOUS JOB. Norm didnt even know who his good players were. How often did we watch hardy and Brownlee, arguably our best players, ride the bench. Blowing out Dook at the Garden, the Pitt win etc. was a great feat.

 

Didn't you just pretend, in another thread, not to know who "realfan" is? In this thread, you speak about your reputation as a poster. C'mon man, fess up!

 

Pretty soon redmen.com will be back to having all its original members---good and bad. LOL! Once the Maven is back, the
ircle will be complete.

 

 

[simplyred]

 http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/020212aab.html

Lav is doing the media day intvw. Any chance he will be on the bench for Cuse?

 

[beast of the east]

No offense, but how come these same type of threads, in reference to Lavin returning, continue to pop up every week?

 

I think they will until he returns and that's just the nature of the beast. Obviously traveling all over the country is taxing in itself. Anyone who's done it knows that. Some would argue that it's moreso than walking down from the skybox to the bench and parking himself on a cushion while Dunlap does his thing. Recruiting is all about appearances and his total absence makes it tougher no doubt, especially with the competition out there. It's his decision but all decisions have consequences.

 

There is no need to rehash this after every game or every week. Besides, what are you gonna say about Lavin when he reels in a solid, recruiting class in the spring?

 

[Of course I'll praise him and jump right on the bandwagon. Right now though I prefer to go by what I see and hear. Steve did a good , not great, job last year with Norm's players and his only recruit left town.
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Bobre Lavin took a bunch of kids who never won everything in their college career other than a fluke game here or there and put all the schools who they hadnt beaten on a board before the season and told them the goal was they were going to beat each and every one of them and had what was probably the single best streak in the middle of the year that I've seen in a long time. Clobbering Duke and a host of others and winning at Nova.

That's only a good job ?   

 

He's so transparent that he doesn't deserve a response, maher.

 

Maybe I'm a tough marker but I don't award a "great" for coaching another coaches' players. The talent was there to begin with. This year it's only half there. A full roster would have been great.

 

Your comment about coaching another player's team is about the most ridiculous thing you have ever said, and you've said a bunch of them.

With LESS than the very same material that the previous coach had (Anthony Mason Jr), a team that was 6-12 in the Big East the previous season, and .500 overall was ranked as high as 9th overall in the COUNTRY. He guides them to 12-6 in conference with more victories over ranked teams than we had seen in a decade COMBINED. Everything was the same except the coaches. One could also argue that Lavin would have gotten much more out of Mason. Are you out of your mind????

 

[beast of the east]

No offense, but how come these same type of threads, in reference to Lavin returning, continue to pop up every week?

 

I think they will until he returns and that's just the nature of the beast. Obviously traveling all over the country is taxing in itself. Anyone who's done it knows that. Some would argue that it's moreso than walking down from the skybox to the bench and parking himself on a cushion while Dunlap does his thing. Recruiting is all about appearances and his total absence makes it tougher no doubt, especially with the competition out there. It's his decision but all decisions have consequences.

 

There is no need to rehash this after every game or every week. Besides, what are you gonna say about Lavin when he reels in a solid, recruiting class in the spring?

 

Of course I'll praise him and jump right on the bandwagon. Right now though I prefer to go by what I see and hear. Steve did a good , not great, job last year with Norm's players and his only recruit left town. This year the Nuri, Sampson, Pelle, Roberts, and Q situations plus the illness problem leave him with an "incomplete" in my grade book. I hope it all works out but nobody really knows at this point. In Louie I trusted but Steve is still a newcomer to me at this point.

 

Look, i have not always been known to be the most positive poster there is on here but when it comes to last year, Lavin did a STUPENDOUS JOB. Norm didnt even know who his good players were. How often did we watch hardy and Brownlee, arguably our best players, ride the bench. Blowing out Dook at the Garden, the Pitt win etc. was a great feat.

 

I'd add that the staff is once again doing a stupendous job this season with developing our players. An entire freshmen roster and we're nearly beating Duke AT Cameron mid-season. Look at how all these kids are developing and it is amazing. The fact that we are shorthanded shouldn't underscore how well these kids are all coming along. It's a window into how good we can be with a few more pieces and a year of experience starting next season. IF Lavin can land a few of the big guys we're targeting, and maybe nab a shooter, I see no reason we shouldn't be a top 3 Big East team next season and making a nice tourney run.

 

Is there any doubt that Lavin assembled the best staff of assistants ANYWHERE? As I mentioned before, anyone who says they are a Redmen fan and stays home for anything other than economics is missing a good show.

 

[LJSA]

Steve's decision is his alone but the skybox view is lousy aside from closed circuit TV. Maybe he'd be more comfortable at home.

 

Aside from being a shitty coach, do you think Mark Jackson even knew who D'Angelo Harrison was? With him as coach we'd have a Norm-like roster.

He's never coaching here, and he'll be out of a job by next season. It's time to lose the bitterness.

 


Where do come off call Mark Jax Shitty?
Mark is a all time Johnny helped take us to final 4 & win a BE title!
Mark is a a successful johnny with class that you wish you had :yell:

He's a faithful husband and a flashy passer. But his TV work was overrated and he's a bad coach. And since this is a fan board with one particular poster who has an over-the-top love affair with the idea of Jackson coaching here, I will comment on his bad coaching whenever I damn well please.