Jordan/Obekpa NBA Draft Potential This Year

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I've heard a lot of chatter that Jordan and Obekpa are good as gone after this season, but to date have seen little to show they'd have any shot of being drafted (it was hard for me to visualize them leaving to just go overseas). Well, that recently changed. I use NBADraft.net as the best barometer of these things because they've been doing it for years and are usually very close with their rankings. In their latest update, they have Jordan as #49 and Obekpa as #88 in the top prospects for the 2015 NBA draft. Looks like they're both getting closer to their dream.

http://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/bigboard
 
I think obekpa has good reason to leave because I think he will be a second round pick. But Jordan shouldn't leave but I think he will.
 
Zero. I really struggle to understand how they have any potential at this *current* point in their games. Not knocking them at all, but NBA? As of right now, really?
 
I would prefer to see Obekpa solidify his overall game like Giourgi Dieng did at Louisville and lock himself into a mid-first rounder.

But any signs of consistent offensive improvement and he'll move up this year for sure.

There are not a lot of bigs in the BE conference so he'll have an opportunity to showcase himself throughout the year.

How he performs head-to-head against Okafor of Duke will be the barometer. That game will pretty much guarantee him making the first round this year.
 
I see a lot of upside to CO and the NBA, and I truly think his stock will go up as the season progresses. At this point, Jordan's game is not there...just too many awkward moments on the court, and no part of his game that is truly consistent on a nightly basis. I suppose that might change as the season progresses, but right now, I don't think he's in the conversation for the NBA draft. Harrison is going to find a home somewhere in the NBA, maybe not in the draft, but I can just see him working his way onto a roster.
 
CO has improved dramatically and has become a dominant college player. He'll get killed in the NBA though with a lot of the bad habits he still has like cocking his shot behind his head under the basket and he needs to refine that hook which could be a great weapon for him but still isn't. Jordan is delusional if he thinks he would even have a mild shot at second round. His decision making is the biggest problem that he has and that is mostly about maturity. He's not even a good college level point guard at this stage. Great talent, great potential, great physical skills. He needs maturity and experience. Comparing him to say Omar Cook. Omar was an exponentially better passer and way more mature in terms of decision making. Physical skills, Omar was strong and fast and ready to develop as an NBA player. Jordan probably gets the nod there though overall. Omar was a lot more ready than Jordan is today but should have waited a year or two more to refine some of his deficiencies such as his shooting. Problem is that most of these kids ARE delusional. Instead of being taught important values that they need to become better human beings (which could also help in their career aspirations) such as people around them that can put them in their place when they need it and give them some perspective and reality checks, they are surrounded by people with agendas that tell them how great they are or maybe do despicable things like hookup with their (SMWK) mother in order to hang on to the kid and to further their career or maybe get a financial payday...
Even the "successful" ones could have used those kind of important life lessons in their youth:http://finance.yahoo.com/news/forme...life-after-losing--110-million-214644672.html
 
CO has improved dramatically and has become a dominant college player. He'll get killed in the NBA though with a lot of the bad habits he still has like cocking his shot behind his head under the basket and he needs to refine that hook which could be a great weapon for him but still isn't. Jordan is delusional if he thinks he would even have a mild shot at second round. His decision making is the biggest problem that he has and that is mostly about maturity. He's not even a good college level point guard at this stage. Great talent, great potential, great physical skills. He needs maturity and experience. Comparing him to say Omar Cook. Omar was an exponentially better passer and way more mature in terms of decision making. Physical skills, Omar was strong and fast and ready to develop as an NBA player. Jordan probably gets the nod there though overall. Omar was a lot more ready than Jordan is today but should have waiting a year or two more to refine some of his deficiencies such as his shooting. Problem is that most of these kids ARE delusional. Instead of being taught important values that they need to become better human beings (which could also help in their career aspirations) such as people around them that can put them in their place when they need it and give them some perspective and reality checks, they are surrounded by people with agendas that tell them how great they are or maybe do despicable things like hookup with their (SMWK) mother to further their career or maybe get a financial payday...
Even the "successful" ones could have used those kind of important life lessons in their youth:http://finance.yahoo.com/news/forme...life-after-losing--110-million-214644672.html
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Very accurate. Nearly every single NCAA player with the slightest talent thinks he deserves to play in NBA, they are all delusional, not just our guys. Blame the coaches hyping the NBA to them as they recruit, their parents, their "assistants", their AAU/HS coaches, etc. these kids get the absolute WORST advice.

With that said, neither CO or RJ come anywhere close to matching the talent or value of Moe Harkless or Sampson, not even close. It would be extremely poor decision making if they left at this point in their game. Granted, there is still a lot of ball to be played, either one of them can break out, then by all means sianora.
 
CO has improved dramatically and has become a dominant college player. He'll get killed in the NBA though with a lot of the bad habits he still has like cocking his shot behind his head under the basket and he needs to refine that hook which could be a great weapon for him but still isn't. Jordan is delusional if he thinks he would even have a mild shot at second round. His decision making is the biggest problem that he has and that is mostly about maturity. He's not even a good college level point guard at this stage. Great talent, great potential, great physical skills. He needs maturity and experience. Comparing him to say Omar Cook. Omar was an exponentially better passer and way more mature in terms of decision making. Physical skills, Omar was strong and fast and ready to develop as an NBA player. Jordan probably gets the nod there though overall. Omar was a lot more ready than Jordan is today but should have waiting a year or two more to refine some of his deficiencies such as his shooting. Problem is that most of these kids ARE delusional. Instead of being taught important values that they need to become better human beings (which could also help in their career aspirations) such as people around them that can put them in their place when they need it and give them some perspective and reality checks, they are surrounded by people with agendas that tell them how great they are or maybe do despicable things like hookup with their (SMWK) mother to further their career or maybe get a financial payday...
Even the "successful" ones could have used those kind of important life lessons in their youth:http://finance.yahoo.com/news/forme...life-after-losing--110-million-214644672.html
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Very accurate. Nearly every single NCAA player with the slightest talent thinks he deserves to play in NBA, they are all delusional, not just our guys. Blame the coaches hyping the NBA to them as they recruit, their parents, their "assistants", their AAU/HS coaches, etc. these kids get the absolute WORST advice.

With that said, neither CO or RJ come anywhere close to matching the talent or value of Moe Harkless or Sampson, not even close. It would be extremely poor decision making if they left at this point in their game. Granted, there is still a lot of ball to be played, either one of them can break out, then by all means sianora.
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Moe Harkless, I agree. Sampson though I would disagree. Especially with "not even close". Obekpa does something at an absolutely elite level. Jordan has a prototypical NBA guard build and athleticism, with more talent than Sampson had.
 
Very accurate. Nearly every single NCAA player with the slightest talent thinks he deserves to play in NBA, they are all delusional, not just our guys. Blame the coaches hyping the NBA to them as they recruit, their parents, their "assistants", their AAU/HS coaches, etc. these kids get the absolute WORST advice.

With that said, neither CO or RJ come anywhere close to matching the talent or value of Moe Harkless or Sampson, not even close. It would be extremely poor decision making if they left at this point in their game. Granted, there is still a lot of ball to be played, either one of them can break out, then by all means sianora.
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I think they are both gone regardless of the season, I just don't think it is wise. The difference in the two is that CO will get drafted. If he continues to improve during the season he could work into the first round. If he stuck around another year we'd be talking about moving up in the first round rather being a longshot.
 
agree and realistically Sampson hit the lottery so to speak with the sixers being in a unique and somewhat insane, situation.
 
agree and realistically Sampson hit the lottery so to speak with the sixers being in a unique and somewhat insane, situation.
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True. At one of the early OOC games at MSG last year I sat next to I presume an NBA scout as he was taking notes on Jakar, I was shocked then, shocked more so when he declared.
 
Jordan could use another year of college hoops..he needs to mature..reminds me of Harrison as a Soph. Jordan gets rattled quickly, and frustrated. When he does he plays out of control and tries to do way too much.. Instead of driving into the big men like he has been doing and trying to force up his shot, he should dish to the open guys as the bigs collapse on him. He definitely has NBA talent, just needs to mature and cut down on the needless turnovers..
 
CO has improved dramatically and has become a dominant college player. He'll get killed in the NBA though with a lot of the bad habits he still has like cocking his shot behind his head under the basket and he needs to refine that hook which could be a great weapon for him but still isn't. Jordan is delusional if he thinks he would even have a mild shot at second round. His decision making is the biggest problem that he has and that is mostly about maturity. He's not even a good college level point guard at this stage. Great talent, great potential, great physical skills. He needs maturity and experience. Comparing him to say Omar Cook. Omar was an exponentially better passer and way more mature in terms of decision making. Physical skills, Omar was strong and fast and ready to develop as an NBA player. Jordan probably gets the nod there though overall. Omar was a lot more ready than Jordan is today but should have waited a year or two more to refine some of his deficiencies such as his shooting. Problem is that most of these kids ARE delusional. Instead of being taught important values that they need to become better human beings (which could also help in their career aspirations) such as people around them that can put them in their place when they need it and give them some perspective and reality checks, they are surrounded by people with agendas that tell them how great they are or maybe do despicable things like hookup with their (SMWK) mother in order to hang on to the kid and to further their career or maybe get a financial payday...
Even the "successful" ones could have used those kind of important life lessons in their youth:http://finance.yahoo.com/news/forme...life-after-losing--110-million-214644672.html
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Good post.

Jordan reminds me more recently of Semaj Christion.

He'll put up points and will seem dominant at points but he just hasn't put it all together consistently enough.

Sheed is definitely gunning for stats this year which is why he forces it so much. I'm sure this is glaringly obvious to scouts.

Being a pro PG is the hardest transition to make. And if he thinks being an undrafted free agent PG is the way to millions, he'll end up just like his Philly brethren Malik Wayns.

The best thing for him and his family is to stick it out through his Jr. year and vie for the BE POY because if he has to travel throughout Europe or make $25k in the D-League it'll be that much harder for him to take care of his family.
 
Jordan isn't ready and I don't think he will be that high on the draft board until he matures a bit both with his game and mentally on the court. He's got all the tools but is still raw and needs to show better decision making as well as more consistent production.

Obekpa is the nation's leading shot blocker almost every year. He finally became a beast of a rebounder this year. I can certainly see him leaving even though his offensive game still needs to take leaps like his rebounding has. I could see both leaving, but both are clearly better this season. Both would be served better after another year. Neither is a clear pick like Harkless was at this point.
 
Jordan isn't ready and I don't think he will be that high on the draft board until he matures a bit both with his game and mentally on the court. He's got all the tools but is still raw and needs to show better decision making as well as more consistent production.

Obekpa is the nation's leading shot blocker almost every year. He finally became a beast of a rebounder this year. I can certainly see him leaving even though his offensive game still needs to take leaps like his rebounding has. I could see both leaving, but both are clearly better this season. Both would be served better after another year. Neither is a clear pick like Harkless was at this point.
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Agree completely, MCNPA (good having you back!). Jordan has an NBA body and good overall skills, but he needs to improve his outside shooting, his 60% FT shooting, and his decision making (his assist/TO ratio is flat-out poor) if he's going to make it at the next level. As for CO, 6-9 centers (even ones with a long wing span like his) are the exception (very rare ones, at that), not the rule, in the NBA. And if he's faced with having to go up against NBA 4's night after night, then he needs to develop big time, both physically and offensively. But as you know, like so many other not-ready kids, they'll both have enough people whispering -- even shouting -- into their ears that they're NBA-ready.We'll just have to wait and see, and hope for the best.
 
I see a lot of upside to CO and the NBA, and I truly think his stock will go up as the season progresses. At this point, Jordan's game is not there...just too many awkward moments on the court, and no part of his game that is truly consistent on a nightly basis. I suppose that might change as the season progresses, but right now, I don't think he's in the conversation for the NBA draft. Harrison is going to find a home somewhere in the NBA, maybe not in the draft, but I can just see him working his way onto a roster.
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I agree on Harrison. He is a professional type player.
 
Neither one is close to ready for the NBA.

Obekpa is a 4 in the NBA -- does anyone think he can credibly play power forward at the next level? He's an excellent defensive 5 in college, and his rebounding has improved tremendously, but he's still a liability on offense.

Jordan is super talented, but turns the ball over too much and is not yet a true PG. If he stays one more year he may be, but not right now.
 
I think CO is playing his way in.

It is very difficult to get drafted as a PG and I don't think Jordan is anywhere close to ready. I would take Tyler Ullis over him in a heart beat. Being 6'4" is nice but he still isn't a pure pg. give me a pure of any day. With they said he has potential but needs another year.
 
CO has improved dramatically and has become a dominant college player. He'll get killed in the NBA though with a lot of the bad habits he still has like cocking his shot behind his head under the basket and he needs to refine that hook which could be a great weapon for him but still isn't. Jordan is delusional if he thinks he would even have a mild shot at second round. His decision making is the biggest problem that he has and that is mostly about maturity. He's not even a good college level point guard at this stage. Great talent, great potential, great physical skills. He needs maturity and experience. Comparing him to say Omar Cook. Omar was an exponentially better passer and way more mature in terms of decision making. Physical skills, Omar was strong and fast and ready to develop as an NBA player. Jordan probably gets the nod there though overall. Omar was a lot more ready than Jordan is today but should have waited a year or two more to refine some of his deficiencies such as his shooting. Problem is that most of these kids ARE delusional. Instead of being taught important values that they need to become better human beings (which could also help in their career aspirations) such as people around them that can put them in their place when they need it and give them some perspective and reality checks, they are surrounded by people with agendas that tell them how great they are or maybe do despicable things like hookup with their (SMWK) mother in order to hang on to the kid and to further their career or maybe get a financial payday...
Even the "successful" ones could have used those kind of important life lessons in their youth:http://finance.yahoo.com/news/forme...life-after-losing--110-million-214644672.html
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Since when has CO become a dominant college player? He's really good at blocking shots.....but that doesn't make him a dominant player. His offensive game still is average at best, and his defense (other than shot blocking) is still up in the air....

I just don't think he has the consistency to be considered dominant. He's really good one game, and then can disappear completely for another....
 
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