Jayson Williams: 60 Minutes Sports

Sympathy for the man who's life he ended with his reckless and entitled behavior, and for the man's family. Hope Jason keeps his life on track so that no one else falls victim.
 
I am glad to hear Jayson is doing something to get his life in order. Jayson was in one of my classes while I was at St. John's. He was always a friendly and funny character. Who knew then that he was capable of the heinous actions the night he accidently killed Mr. Christofi. Him and "his boys" trying to cover up what happened before even calling 911 was and is unforgiveable. He can never bring Mr. Christofi back to his family I do pray that Jayson can find peace and commit himself to being a father to his children.

In 2012 (If I remember correctly), I literally walked "into" Jayson by the river in Weehawken NJ. A 6 10" figure sitting on a bench is hard to miss. I introduced myself and reminded him of the time in the particular class at SJU. He had just been released from prison. Although I never asked about the incident I got the feeling he was sincere and contrite about getting his life in order. Maybe he is making the progress he needs to make as a man. I do wish him luck. I don't think he is a monster. However, he did something that ended someone's life and changed others life forever. That can never be fixed.
 
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Yes. The segment was very well done. Jayson is doing what he can to straighten out his life. He is hurting, and it showed. Hurting not just for being a recovering alcoholic. When the night Jayson's actions killed a man was brought up, he fought back tears. He seems like a man filled with remorse. In most scenes, he was wearing St. John's gear, although his time at SJU never was discussed. He knows he can relapse again, and seems terrified of it.
 
I am glad to hear Jayson is doing something to get his life in order. Jayson was in one of my classes while I was at St. John's. He was always a friendly and funny character. Who knew then that he was capable of the heinous actions the night he accidently killed Mr. Christofi. Him and "his boys" trying to cover up what happened before even calling 911 was and is unforgiveable. He can never bring Mr. Christofi back to his family I do pray that Jayson can find peace and commit himself to being a father to his children.

In 2012 (If I remember correctly), I literally walked "into" Jayson by the river in Weehawken NJ. A 6 10" figure sitting on a bench is hard to miss. I introduced myself and reminded him of the time in the particular class at SJU. He had just been released from prison. Although I never asked about the incident I got the feeling he was sincere and contrite about getting his life in order. Maybe he is making the progress he needs to make as a man. I do wish him luck. I don't think he is a monster. However, he did something that ended someone's life and changed others life forever. That can never be fixed.
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Appreciate your insight and your candor. The tendency by many who have met Jayson is to tout what a wonderful guy he is, how funny and charitable he is, etc. So too was OJ. Ted Bundy had some great qualities too. Not sure what that has to do with anything. As for his intent, no one other than Jayson knows whether or not he had malicious intent when he killed Mr. Christofi. Regardless, the fact is that Jayson, for a very long time before and after the killing, exhibited a pattern of extremely reckless behavior, to say the least. So this was not a one time incident. It was bound to happen eventually. In the same way that if I chose to drink and drive on the southern state parkway 5 nights a week chances are that eventually I would kill someone. And all the remorse in the world wouldn't bring the dead person(people) back. I have very little sympathy for Jayson. He may be a great guy, but at the end of it all he was just another narcissistic, entitled athlete, who's completely selfish and reckless behavior ended the life of another man. I'll leave my sympathy for Mr. Christofi and his family. As for those that suggest that Jayson be added to the staff, the day that happens is the day that I completely turn my back on my alma mater, including the my beloved Redmen.
 
I am glad to hear Jayson is doing something to get his life in order. Jayson was in one of my classes while I was at St. John's. He was always a friendly and funny character. Who knew then that he was capable of the heinous actions the night he accidently killed Mr. Christofi. Him and "his boys" trying to cover up what happened before even calling 911 was and is unforgiveable. He can never bring Mr. Christofi back to his family I do pray that Jayson can find peace and commit himself to being a father to his children.

In 2012 (If I remember correctly), I literally walked "into" Jayson by the river in Weehawken NJ. A 6 10" figure sitting on a bench is hard to miss. I introduced myself and reminded him of the time in the particular class at SJU. He had just been released from prison. Although I never asked about the incident I got the feeling he was sincere and contrite about getting his life in order. Maybe he is making the progress he needs to make as a man. I do wish him luck. I don't think he is a monster. However, he did something that ended someone's life and changed others life forever. That can never be fixed.
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Appreciate your insight and your candor. The tendency by many who have met Jayson is to tout what a wonderful guy he is, how funny and charitable he is, etc. So too was OJ. Ted Bundy had some great qualities too. Not sure what that has to do with anything. As for his intent, no one other than Jayson knows whether or not he had malicious intent when he killed Mr. Christofi. Regardless, the fact is that Jayson, for a very long time before and after the killing, exhibited a pattern of extremely reckless behavior, to say the least. So this was not a one time incident. It was bound to happen eventually. In the same way that if I chose to drink and drive on the southern state parkway 5 nights a week chances are that eventually I would kill someone. And all the remorse in the world wouldn't bring the dead person(people) back. I have very little sympathy for Jayson. He may be a great guy, but at the end of it all he was just another narcissistic, entitled athlete, who's completely selfish and reckless behavior ended the life of another man. I'll leave my sympathy for Mr. Christofi and his family. As for those that suggest that Jayson be added to the staff, the day that happens is the day that I completely turn my back on my alma mater, including the my beloved Redmen.
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On the money Monte, could not agree more. The reality of his remorse is between him and the Lord.
 
Monte breaking bread with Steve Lavin & Jayson Williams in the old neighborhood;
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Monte breaking bread with Steve Lavin & Jayson Williams in the old neighborhood;
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Need to be sure that I walk out of the bathroom with more than just my d _ _ k in my hands.
 
I am glad to hear Jayson is doing something to get his life in order. Jayson was in one of my classes while I was at St. John's. He was always a friendly and funny character. Who knew then that he was capable of the heinous actions the night he accidently killed Mr. Christofi. Him and "his boys" trying to cover up what happened before even calling 911 was and is unforgiveable. He can never bring Mr. Christofi back to his family I do pray that Jayson can find peace and commit himself to being a father to his children.

In 2012 (If I remember correctly), I literally walked "into" Jayson by the river in Weehawken NJ. A 6 10" figure sitting on a bench is hard to miss. I introduced myself and reminded him of the time in the particular class at SJU. He had just been released from prison. Although I never asked about the incident I got the feeling he was sincere and contrite about getting his life in order. Maybe he is making the progress he needs to make as a man. I do wish him luck. I don't think he is a monster. However, he did something that ended someone's life and changed others life forever. That can never be fixed.
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Appreciate your insight and your candor. The tendency by many who have met Jayson is to tout what a wonderful guy he is, how funny and charitable he is, etc. So too was OJ. Ted Bundy had some great qualities too. Not sure what that has to do with anything. As for his intent, no one other than Jayson knows whether or not he had malicious intent when he killed Mr. Christofi. Regardless, the fact is that Jayson, for a very long time before and after the killing, exhibited a pattern of extremely reckless behavior, to say the least. So this was not a one time incident. It was bound to happen eventually. In the same way that if I chose to drink and drive on the southern state parkway 5 nights a week chances are that eventually I would kill someone. And all the remorse in the world wouldn't bring the dead person(people) back. I have very little sympathy for Jayson. He may be a great guy, but at the end of it all he was just another narcissistic, entitled athlete, who's completely selfish and reckless behavior ended the life of another man. I'll leave my sympathy for Mr. Christofi and his family. As for those that suggest that Jayson be added to the staff, the day that happens is the day that I completely turn my back on my alma mater, including the my beloved Redmen.
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Monte, don't you think comparing Jayson to Ted Bundy, and even OJ, is a little over the top? Bundy's serial killings and OJ's slaughter of two human being were a helluva lot more than reckless behavior -- they were well thought out and 100% intentional.
 
I am glad to hear Jayson is doing something to get his life in order. Jayson was in one of my classes while I was at St. John's. He was always a friendly and funny character. Who knew then that he was capable of the heinous actions the night he accidently killed Mr. Christofi. Him and "his boys" trying to cover up what happened before even calling 911 was and is unforgiveable. He can never bring Mr. Christofi back to his family I do pray that Jayson can find peace and commit himself to being a father to his children.

In 2012 (If I remember correctly), I literally walked "into" Jayson by the river in Weehawken NJ. A 6 10" figure sitting on a bench is hard to miss. I introduced myself and reminded him of the time in the particular class at SJU. He had just been released from prison. Although I never asked about the incident I got the feeling he was sincere and contrite about getting his life in order. Maybe he is making the progress he needs to make as a man. I do wish him luck. I don't think he is a monster. However, he did something that ended someone's life and changed others life forever. That can never be fixed.
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Appreciate your insight and your candor. The tendency by many who have met Jayson is to tout what a wonderful guy he is, how funny and charitable he is, etc. So too was OJ. Ted Bundy had some great qualities too. Not sure what that has to do with anything. As for his intent, no one other than Jayson knows whether or not he had malicious intent when he killed Mr. Christofi. Regardless, the fact is that Jayson, for a very long time before and after the killing, exhibited a pattern of extremely reckless behavior, to say the least. So this was not a one time incident. It was bound to happen eventually. In the same way that if I chose to drink and drive on the southern state parkway 5 nights a week chances are that eventually I would kill someone. And all the remorse in the world wouldn't bring the dead person(people) back. I have very little sympathy for Jayson. He may be a great guy, but at the end of it all he was just another narcissistic, entitled athlete, who's completely selfish and reckless behavior ended the life of another man. I'll leave my sympathy for Mr. Christofi and his family. As for those that suggest that Jayson be added to the staff, the day that happens is the day that I completely turn my back on my alma mater, including the my beloved Redmen.
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Monte, don't you think comparing Jayson to Ted Bundy, and even OJ, is a little over the top? Bundy's serial killings and OJ's slaughter of two human being were a helluva lot more than reckless behavior -- they were well thought out and 100% intentional.
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Not speaking for Monte but I think he was comparing their personality traits not comparing deeds. The fact is 8-9 years after he recklessly killed a man and then tried to cover it up Williams was still out driving drunk.
 
I am glad to hear Jayson is doing something to get his life in order. Jayson was in one of my classes while I was at St. John's. He was always a friendly and funny character. Who knew then that he was capable of the heinous actions the night he accidently killed Mr. Christofi. Him and "his boys" trying to cover up what happened before even calling 911 was and is unforgiveable. He can never bring Mr. Christofi back to his family I do pray that Jayson can find peace and commit himself to being a father to his children.

In 2012 (If I remember correctly), I literally walked "into" Jayson by the river in Weehawken NJ. A 6 10" figure sitting on a bench is hard to miss. I introduced myself and reminded him of the time in the particular class at SJU. He had just been released from prison. Although I never asked about the incident I got the feeling he was sincere and contrite about getting his life in order. Maybe he is making the progress he needs to make as a man. I do wish him luck. I don't think he is a monster. However, he did something that ended someone's life and changed others life forever. That can never be fixed.
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Appreciate your insight and your candor. The tendency by many who have met Jayson is to tout what a wonderful guy he is, how funny and charitable he is, etc. So too was OJ. Ted Bundy had some great qualities too. Not sure what that has to do with anything. As for his intent, no one other than Jayson knows whether or not he had malicious intent when he killed Mr. Christofi. Regardless, the fact is that Jayson, for a very long time before and after the killing, exhibited a pattern of extremely reckless behavior, to say the least. So this was not a one time incident. It was bound to happen eventually. In the same way that if I chose to drink and drive on the southern state parkway 5 nights a week chances are that eventually I would kill someone. And all the remorse in the world wouldn't bring the dead person(people) back. I have very little sympathy for Jayson. He may be a great guy, but at the end of it all he was just another narcissistic, entitled athlete, who's completely selfish and reckless behavior ended the life of another man. I'll leave my sympathy for Mr. Christofi and his family. As for those that suggest that Jayson be added to the staff, the day that happens is the day that I completely turn my back on my alma mater, including the my beloved Redmen.
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Monte, don't you think comparing Jayson to Ted Bundy, and even OJ, is a little over the top? Bundy's serial killings and OJ's slaughter of two human being were a helluva lot more than reckless behavior -- they were well thought out and 100% intentional.
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Was just trying to make a point. Besides, O.J. was innocent ;)
 
I was at Alumni Hall pretty much every day at St. John's. I remember two players more than any others there. Jayson Williams and Billy Singleton. Singleton was always on the floor practicing. Williams was always in the stands holding court/center of attention with a bunch of girls surrounding him. He's a complicated guy that had a harsh life before any of this happened and he'd be a great success story if he have been more humble rather than feeding his narcissism. Not an excuse but I hope he gets it together and takes it one day at a time being a positive force since he really is a charismatic guy that could be. But he should stay off TV and limelight and stay humble.

BTW from the segment, Oak Tree looks good.
 
Monte, don't you think comparing Jayson to Ted Bundy, and even OJ, is a little over the top? Bundy's serial killings and OJ's slaughter of two human being were a helluva lot more than reckless behavior -- they were well thought out and 100% intentional.
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Say what you want about OJ, he never murdered a dog.
 
Unless he is a very good actor, JW looked like he was remorseful and seemed like he was more aware of his weakness with alcohol and the consequences of his actions. I hope he continues to resist the demons. Too soon for him to join this staff. They have their own demons to deal with. Hopefully, with time and work he can become a positive contributor to society. Maybe even as an assistant, if there's a fit.
 
I was at Alumni Hall pretty much every day at St. John's. I remember two players more than any others there. Jayson Williams and Billy Singleton. Singleton was always on the floor practicing. Williams was always in the stands holding court/center of attention with a bunch of girls surrounding him. He's a complicated guy that had a harsh life before any of this happened and he'd be a great success story if he have been more humble rather than feeding his narcissism. Not an excuse but I hope he gets it together and takes it one day at a time being a positive force since he really is a charismatic guy that could be. But he should stay off TV and limelight and stay humble.

BTW from the segment, Oak Tree looks good.
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Paul, as you and a few others on the board are aware, I have fifty years of teaching people, both lay and professional, about behavioral health. This thread reminds me of the comment of a friend and mentor after he had led a class on case studies of emotional disturbance in children. We were walking out of the class together and I was babbling on about aspects of the cases when he turned to me and said, "Just remember, there is evil in the world."

The hard part is when both evil and pathology are present in the same person and you are tasked with figuring out not only your own demeanor toward such an individual but the position of agencies of the state, law, etc. toward that individual.
 
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