Is the A-10 better than the Big East?

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1. The Atlantic 10 could get more teams in the NCAA Tournament than the Big East.

It's hard to believe that statement is being made after the Atlantic 10 lost Butler, Charlotte, Temple, and Xavier after last season but it's the absolute truth. The Big East didn't perform as well as the Atlantic 10 during the non-conference portion of the season and that carries more weight now than past years because there are only 33 at-large bids to the field of 68 after the creation of the American Athletic Conference. The Big East simply hasn't performed up to this point like many thought it would. Providence was seen as a potential NCAA team before the season but lost three key members of its rotation and now has an exceptionally thin roster. That coupled with the early struggles of Marquette and St. John's has left only four teams -- Villanova, Creighton, Xavier, and Georgetown -- standing out from the rest. Meanwhile the Atlantic 10 has five programs -- UMass, Saint Louis, VCU, Dayton, and George Washington -- that have all helped themselves in the first two months of the season. The dynamic between these two leagues will be an interesting thing to following from now until Selection Sunday.
 
That is so sad.... For the past few decades this question would be a joke. I think its both they had a good start and we had a poor start to the year. Over all, We are a better conference.
 
Not much of a prediction but I will go on record that they will not have more bids than Big East
 
I count five teams from the A-10 will make the tournament.


Big East has one lock (Nova) and then a list of maybes

- Xavier
- Georgetown
- Butler
- Creighton
- Marquette
 
That is so sad.... For the past few decades this question would be a joke. I think its both they had a good start and we had a poor start to the year. Over all, We are a better conference.
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For the past few years you had a 16 team conference vs. a 10 team conference so the discussion never got started.
 
That is so sad.... For the past few decades this question would be a joke. I think its both they had a good start and we had a poor start to the year. Over all, We are a better conference.
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For the past few years you had a 16 team conference vs. a 10 team conference so the discussion never got started.
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This is true but I've always felt we had the best conference from top to bottom. Unlike ACC or A 10 which are just top heavy.
 
I think the Big East might be a little better this year. However, the leagues are very similar. The Big East is more like a mid- major league now. I still follow very closely, but I cancelled my season tickets for this reason. I was paying prices for the best league in America. I can't accept paying the same prices for an inferior league.
 
That is so sad.... For the past few decades this question would be a joke. I think its both they had a good start and we had a poor start to the year. Over all, We are a better conference.
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For the past few years you had a 16 team conference vs. a 10 team conference so the discussion never got started.
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Is the BE staying at 10 for next season?
 
I think the Big East might be a little better this year. However, the leagues are very similar. The Big East is more like a mid- major league now. I still follow very closely, but I cancelled my season tickets for this reason. I was paying prices for the best league in America. I can't accept paying the same prices for an inferior league.
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You make a good point about ticket prices. The 625 bucks or whatever season tickets are averages out to 40 a game or something. The problem is for re-sale purposes or even just bringing someone the face value of tickets at MSG is ridiculoulsy listed at more. Also as has been discussed there are usually 2-3 extra games that are not included. The ticketing group as with other groups at SJU need an overhaul
 
That is so sad.... For the past few decades this question would be a joke. I think its both they had a good start and we had a poor start to the year. Over all, We are a better conference.
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For the past few years you had a 16 team conference vs. a 10 team conference so the discussion never got started.
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Is the BE staying at 10 for next season?
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My thought based on what I've heard is 10 for next year. After next year is when you might see more.
 
The Big East is not likely to expand after the end of the current season but will expand when and to where its media partner FoxSports1 wants.
 
I think the Big East might be a little better this year. However, the leagues are very similar. The Big East is more like a mid- major league now. I still follow very closely, but I cancelled my season tickets for this reason. I was paying prices for the best league in America. I can't accept paying the same prices for an inferior league.
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I agree that the quality of the league dropped. But the Big East brand is still strong. This deal with fox is only going to help grow that. Seton Hall is on the way back. Marquette is having a down year but are usually tough. Butler creighton Xavier are going to be there year in and out. Villanova and Georgetown and St Johns ( once we get our act right) should be at the top of the league every year. The X factor is providence because Cooley has had the worst luck early on but he can build them into a dangerous program. So any given year going forward we can have 6 to 8 teams in the mix for tourney bids in my opinion
 
Didn't Newsman predict this. This league will never approach the old Big East. Need big time money and state schools to do that.
 
The Big East is not likely to expand after the end of the current season but will expand when and to where its media partner FoxSports1 wants.
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They will have no choice but to expand to 12. Like the ACC has done, the only way to improve the quality and strenght of the league is to add St. Louis, Dayton or VCU. We stick a knife in the A10 by becoming the A10 the way the ACC became the old Big East by adding Miami, VaTech, BC, Syracuse, Louisville, Notre Dame and Pitt.

PS. This is a transition year and unlike the A10 we do not even have a permanent address or phone numbers.
At SJU we do not even have a President so this is a downer year no matter how you look at it. Heck, even the new AAC is playing better basketball with their current teams!
 
I count five teams from the A-10 will make the tournament.


Big East has one lock (Nova) and then a list of maybes

- Xavier
- Georgetown
- Butler
- Creighton
- Marquette
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Creighton is a lock. Why is Marquette even on your list?
 
I count five teams from the A-10 will make the tournament.


Big East has one lock (Nova) and then a list of maybes

- Xavier
- Georgetown
- Butler
- Creighton
- Marquette
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Creighton is a lock. Why is Marquette even on your list?
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Xavier is going dancing also. That might be the only three.
 
Didn't Newsman predict this. This league will never approach the old Big East. Need big time money and state schools to do that.
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Way too early. Butler will be a top 15-20 team next season. Nova will be a top ten team and very likely better than this year (returning 5 of their top 6 players). St. John's will improve dramatically if they retain the youngins. Xavier will be top 25 and is always an NCAA caliber team even if they lose Christon. Gtown has good talent. Marquette will be back next year when their talented freshmen become sophs and Buzz fills some holes via JUCO. SH will be much better next year with their great recruiting class.

Creighton will slip, but I think they will be far better than anyone expects. They'll add a few JUCOs from that region and I think Devin Brooks will be an all-conference player for them. I can really see him scoring around 18-20 ppg for them. They also return their starting PG, Chatman, as well as a few key reserves.
 
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