Injecting Buzz Into NYC Area Hoops

Good article...if only there were programs that remotely resembled the caliber of Villanova's rivals in temple and St joes to make this something truly special.

I'd be more interested in having a four team tourney with St. John's Uconn Syracuse and Rutgers. Old BE schools - only including Rutgers to have a fourth conference and school from Tristate region.
 
Good article...if only there were programs that remotely resembled the caliber of Villanova's rivals in temple and St joes to make this something truly special.

I'd be more interested in having a four team tourney with St. John's Uconn Syracuse and Rutgers. Old BE schools - only including Rutgers to have a fourth conference and school from Tristate region.
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Maybe some day down the road, when we're a re-established national power, but until that day, a resounding no, no, no!
 
Good article...if only there were programs that remotely resembled the caliber of Villanova's rivals in temple and St joes to make this something truly special.

I'd be more interested in having a four team tourney with St. John's Uconn Syracuse and Rutgers. Old BE schools - only including Rutgers to have a fourth conference and school from Tristate region.
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Maybe some day down the road, when we're a re-established national power, but until that day, a resounding no, no, no!
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Didn't STJ beat two of those three this year?
 
Good article...if only there were programs that remotely resembled the caliber of Villanova's rivals in temple and St joes to make this something truly special.

I'd be more interested in having a four team tourney with St. John's Uconn Syracuse and Rutgers. Old BE schools - only including Rutgers to have a fourth conference and school from Tristate region.
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Maybe some day down the road, when we're a re-established national power, but until that day, a resounding no, no, no!
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Didn't STJ beat two of those three this year?
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The Syracuse win didn't count with no Jim B on the sidelines, I guess according to the committee ;)
 
Good article...if only there were programs that remotely resembled the caliber of Villanova's rivals in temple and St joes to make this something truly special.

I'd be more interested in having a four team tourney with St. John's Uconn Syracuse and Rutgers. Old BE schools - only including Rutgers to have a fourth conference and school from Tristate region.
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Maybe some day down the road, when we're a re-established national power, but until that day, a resounding no, no, no!
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Didn't STJ beat two of those three this year?
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The Syracuse win didn't count with no Jim B on the sidelines, I guess according to the committee ;)
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Go away kid, you bother me.

You don't really but I've always wanted to say that to you and soon you'll be in college and no longer a true kid.

So go away.
 
Good article...if only there were programs that remotely resembled the caliber of Villanova's rivals in temple and St joes to make this something truly special.

I'd be more interested in having a four team tourney with St. John's Uconn Syracuse and Rutgers. Old BE schools - only including Rutgers to have a fourth conference and school from Tristate region.
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Maybe some day down the road, when we're a re-established national power, but until that day, a resounding no, no, no!
Click to expand...

Didn't STJ beat two of those three this year?
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The Syracuse win didn't count with no Jim B on the sidelines, I guess according to the committee ;)
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Funny, but what do you think would happen in a rematch?
 
Didn't STJ beat two of those three this year?[/quote]

The Syracuse win didn't count with no Jim B on the sidelines, I guess according to the committee ;)[/quote]

Go away kid, you bother me.

You don't really but I've always wanted to say that to you and soon you'll be in college and no longer a true kid.

So go away.[/quote]

Austor, Johnnies play up at Cuse next year with a new and better team but odds don;t look good for another road win at Cuse. Especially since Until last year, young Jack wasn't alive for the one before.
 
For the fun of it, how about an old fashioned Garden triple-header:

Game 1 Rutgers vs Fordham

Game 2 Syracuse vs Iona

Game 3 St. John's vs UConn
 
Didn't STJ beat two of those three this year?
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The Syracuse win didn't count with no Jim B on the sidelines, I guess according to the committee ;)[/quote]

Go away kid, you bother me.

You don't really but I've always wanted to say that to you and soon you'll be in college and no longer a true kid.

So go away.[/quote]

Austor, Johnnies play up at Cuse next year with a new and better team but odds don;t look good for another road win at Cuse. Especially since Until last year, young Jack wasn't alive for the one before.[/quote]

We OWN Cuse!
 
Good article...if only there were programs that remotely resembled the caliber of Villanova's rivals in temple and St joes to make this something truly special.

I'd be more interested in having a four team tourney with St. John's Uconn Syracuse and Rutgers. Old BE schools - only including Rutgers to have a fourth conference and school from Tristate region.
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Maybe some day down the road, when we're a re-established national power, but until that day, a resounding no, no, no!
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Didn't STJ beat two of those three this year?
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I wasn't even thinking of Rutgers. But giving Syracuse and UConn the chance to pack the Garden with their obnoxious fans and, until our program gets considerably stronger, mostly like beat us, I see no benefit in that arrangement.
 
First of all we play Syracuse anyway. All relatively local,Why not? Like JSJ I like Iona included also.
 
First of all we play Syracuse anyway. All relatively local,Why not? Like JSJ I like Iona included also.
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Syracuse is here every other year, not every year. Prefer to keep it that way. Screw UConn. Would prefer to see a tournament that's exclusively made up of NYC area teams.
 
First of all we play Syracuse anyway. All relatively local,Why not? Like JSJ I like Iona included also.
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Syracuse is here every other year, not every year. Prefer to keep it that way. Screw UConn. Would prefer to see a tournament that's exclusively made up of NYC area teams.
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Uconn can host games with the local colleges around Hartford in Hartford.
 
First of all we play Syracuse anyway. All relatively local,Why not? Like JSJ I like Iona included also.
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Syracuse is here every other year, not every year. Prefer to keep it that way. Screw UConn. Would prefer to see a tournament that's exclusively made up of NYC area teams.
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Completely understand the sentiment but for the younger fans (and by younger I mean 40 and younger) - I don't believe that any local NY program other than St. John's even has the potential to move the needle or inject "buzz" into NYC hoops which was what the article suggests.

Those philly rivalries are deep rooted and have been cultivated for years and include three teams with which have made the elite 8 in the 2000s. Ours would would actually include none but we would be nearly 1.

I don't see the benefit to us in a holiday tournament at the garden of local schools. If we lose its national news. If we win its local news. Prefer to bring in bigger programs like was happening in 90s and earlier 2000s. Rotate a local school in and bring in 2 teams from elsewhere. Tournament style. I just feel if buzz is what is desired there is only one way to get it - us winning and then combining that with big time matchups that will pique the casual fans interest. Just my humble opinion.

Edit: PS not suggesting you are 40+. No idea how old you are. Just think the average big St. John's fan under 40 is unlikely to care bout any of the other local schools unless they have a tie to one. The casual nyc non St. John's fan under 40 at least knows of St. John's but us alone may not pique interest for them either. Sad state of affairs but it's how it is at least with the people I know.
 
For the fun of it, how about an old fashioned Garden triple-header:

Game 1 Rutgers vs Fordham

Game 2 Syracuse vs Iona

Game 3 St. John's vs UConn
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That is a double header. No one would go to game one! :p
 
To expect teams like Syracuse and Connecticut to give up two dates and play in a non exempt tournament is a pipe dream.
 
First of all we play Syracuse anyway. All relatively local,Why not? Like JSJ I like Iona included also.
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Syracuse is here every other year, not every year. Prefer to keep it that way. Screw UConn. Would prefer to see a tournament that's exclusively made up of NYC area teams.
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Completely understand the sentiment but for the younger fans (and by younger I mean 40 and younger) - I don't believe that any local NY program other than St. John's even has the potential to move the needle or inject "buzz" into NYC hoops which was what the article suggests.

Those philly rivalries are deep rooted and have been cultivated for years and include three teams with which have made the elite 8 in the 2000s. Ours would would actually include none but we would be nearly 1.

I don't see the benefit to us in a holiday tournament at the garden of local schools. If we lose its national news. If we win its local news. Prefer to bring in bigger programs like was happening in 90s and earlier 2000s. Rotate a local school in and bring in 2 teams from elsewhere. Tournament style. I just feel if buzz is what is desired there is only one way to get it - us winning and then combining that with big time matchups that will pique the casual fans interest. Just my humble opinion.

Edit: PS not suggesting you are 40+. No idea how old you are. Just think the average big St. John's fan under 40 is unlikely to care bout any of the other local schools unless they have a tie to one. The casual nyc non St. John's fan under 40 at least knows of St. John's but us alone may not pique interest for them either. Sad state of affairs but it's how it is at least with the people I know.
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Am I 40+ years old? To quote a line from Jackson Browne, "I passed that point long ago." (And the fact that I'm quoting the once-popular Browne confirms that I'm at least 40+. :))

I get your point, but I think the other local schools have pretty good fan bases, and I'd rather fill the Garden with their fans, which would be good for NYC area basketball, than with obnoxious "we own New York" Syracuse and UConn fans -- certainly until our program is solidly re-established and on equal footing with theirs. As it is, we'd have trouble consistently beating some of the local teams.
 
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