I Love Justin Simon

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[quote="MCNPA" post=303116]Heron and Ponds getting drafted is ultimately very good for Mullin and the program. It adds to his resume’, and the less and less other programs can outsell us when it comes to that stuff. I’m happy wenhave Mack replacing ponds if and when he leaves, and we have other potential stars like Figueroa etc. I don’t think we will be devoid of backcourt talent in the least. I’m also not sure Simon is ready to go unless he develops that shooting game a bit.[/quote]

There shouldn’t be any worry in Simon leaving to go pro. 5th year transfer If he wants to shine would be the issue. But If you ask me with all 3 of ponds Heron and Clark most likely gone, right here would be the best spot for him.
 
[quote="Amaseinyourface" post=303439][quote="MCNPA" post=303116]Heron and Ponds getting drafted is ultimately very good for Mullin and the program. It adds to his resume’, and the less and less other programs can outsell us when it comes to that stuff. I’m happy wenhave Mack replacing ponds if and when he leaves, and we have other potential stars like Figueroa etc. I don’t think we will be devoid of backcourt talent in the least. I’m also not sure Simon is ready to go unless he develops that shooting game a bit.[/quote]

There shouldn’t be any worry in Simon leaving to go pro. 5th year transfer If he wants to shine would be the issue. But If you ask me with all 3 of ponds Heron and Clark most likely gone, right here would be the best spot for him.[/quote]

Simon shouldn't be a candidate to go pro but could leave as a graduate transfer if he so desired
 
Could be a great addition, filling one of our needs for a few years: a genuine PG with scoring ability as well.
Amazes me how we get these guys (LJ, Mustapha, Cameron, Eli, Dave, and hopefully Ian).
I know it's Matt scouring the bushes, but it's also player feedback, which is great to see.
Feeling with a great season, it's at least possible we'll also break ice with a great HS commit in the Spring...
 
[quote="MarkRedman" post=303453][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=303439][quote="MCNPA" post=303116]Heron and Ponds getting drafted is ultimately very good for Mullin and the program. It adds to his resume’, and the less and less other programs can outsell us when it comes to that stuff. I’m happy wenhave Mack replacing ponds if and when he leaves, and we have other potential stars like Figueroa etc. I don’t think we will be devoid of backcourt talent in the least. I’m also not sure Simon is ready to go unless he develops that shooting game a bit.[/quote]

There shouldn’t be any worry in Simon leaving to go pro. 5th year transfer If he wants to shine would be the issue. But If you ask me with all 3 of ponds Heron and Clark most likely gone, right here would be the best spot for him.[/quote]

Simon shouldn't be a candidate to go pro but could leave as a graduate transfer if he so desired[/quote]

I think he will leave for a program where he is guaranteed "not to play forward or center". A school needing a big point guard will be a perfect place.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=303563][quote="MarkRedman" post=303453][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=303439][quote="MCNPA" post=303116]Heron and Ponds getting drafted is ultimately very good for Mullin and the program. It adds to his resume’, and the less and less other programs can outsell us when it comes to that stuff. I’m happy wenhave Mack replacing ponds if and when he leaves, and we have other potential stars like Figueroa etc. I don’t think we will be devoid of backcourt talent in the least. I’m also not sure Simon is ready to go unless he develops that shooting game a bit.[/quote]

There shouldn’t be any worry in Simon leaving to go pro. 5th year transfer If he wants to shine would be the issue. But If you ask me with all 3 of ponds Heron and Clark most likely gone, right here would be the best spot for him.[/quote]

Simon shouldn't be a candidate to go pro but could leave as a graduate transfer if he so desired[/quote]

I think he will leave for a program where he is guaranteed "not to play forward or center". A school needing a big point guard will be a perfect place.[/quote]

He’s just not a point guard. Love him as a player but being a good passer doesn’t make you a pg, it should be a prerequisite for any player.
 
Damn where have I been. Great start to the 19 class. Hey if the transfers and JUCOs are the best options than so be it, im not going to complain about that. Welcome Cam we're glad to have you.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=303563][quote="MarkRedman" post=303453][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=303439][quote="MCNPA" post=303116]Heron and Ponds getting drafted is ultimately very good for Mullin and the program. It adds to his resume’, and the less and less other programs can outsell us when it comes to that stuff. I’m happy wenhave Mack replacing ponds if and when he leaves, and we have other potential stars like Figueroa etc. I don’t think we will be devoid of backcourt talent in the least. I’m also not sure Simon is ready to go unless he develops that shooting game a bit.[/quote]

There shouldn’t be any worry in Simon leaving to go pro. 5th year transfer If he wants to shine would be the issue. But If you ask me with all 3 of ponds Heron and Clark most likely gone, right here would be the best spot for him.[/quote]

Simon shouldn't be a candidate to go pro but could leave as a graduate transfer if he so desired[/quote]

I think he will leave for a program where he is guaranteed "not to play forward or center". A school needing a big point guard will be a perfect place.[/quote]

I will be very disappointed if Simon leaves us next year. He is playing 30 minutes a game this year and next year it will be his team.
If he leaves it must reflex poorly on the coaching staff that they are not building a relationship with the players.
 
[quote="Red2395" post=303989][quote="Class of 72" post=303563][quote="MarkRedman" post=303453][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=303439][quote="MCNPA" post=303116]Heron and Ponds getting drafted is ultimately very good for Mullin and the program. It adds to his resume’, and the less and less other programs can outsell us when it comes to that stuff. I’m happy wenhave Mack replacing ponds if and when he leaves, and we have other potential stars like Figueroa etc. I don’t think we will be devoid of backcourt talent in the least. I’m also not sure Simon is ready to go unless he develops that shooting game a bit.[/quote]

There shouldn’t be any worry in Simon leaving to go pro. 5th year transfer If he wants to shine would be the issue. But If you ask me with all 3 of ponds Heron and Clark most likely gone, right here would be the best spot for him.[/quote]

Simon shouldn't be a candidate to go pro but could leave as a graduate transfer if he so desired[/quote]

I think he will leave for a program where he is guaranteed "not to play forward or center". A school needing a big point guard will be a perfect place.[/quote]

I will be very disappointed if Simon leaves us next year. He is playing 30 minutes a game this year and next year it will be his team.
If he leaves it must reflex poorly on the coaching staff that they are not building a relationship with the players.[/quote]

I would also be disappointed if Simon left as a graduate transfer
But the current trend is that there has been a record number of transfers every season
The grass always seems greener elsewhere to these kids
But they often find out that such is not always the case
 
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[quote="MarkRedman" post=303994][quote="Red2395" post=303989][quote="Class of 72" post=303563][quote="MarkRedman" post=303453][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=303439][quote="MCNPA" post=303116]Heron and Ponds getting drafted is ultimately very good for Mullin and the program. It adds to his resume’, and the less and less other programs can outsell us when it comes to that stuff. I’m happy wenhave Mack replacing ponds if and when he leaves, and we have other potential stars like Figueroa etc. I don’t think we will be devoid of backcourt talent in the least. I’m also not sure Simon is ready to go unless he develops that shooting game a bit.[/quote]

There shouldn’t be any worry in Simon leaving to go pro. 5th year transfer If he wants to shine would be the issue. But If you ask me with all 3 of ponds Heron and Clark most likely gone, right here would be the best spot for him.[/quote]

Simon shouldn't be a candidate to go pro but could leave as a graduate transfer if he so desired[/quote]

I think he will leave for a program where he is guaranteed "not to play forward or center". A school needing a big point guard will be a perfect place.[/quote]

I will be very disappointed if Simon leaves us next year. He is playing 30 minutes a game this year and next year it will be his team.
If he leaves it must reflex poorly on the coaching staff that they are not building a relationship with the players.[/quote]

I would also be disappointed if Simon left as a graduate transfer
But the current trend is that there has been a record number of transfers every season
The grass always seems greener elsewhere to these kids
But they often find out that such is not always the case[/quote]

That's why the Moose Transfer Rules need to be applied by the NCAA. 1 transfer, less restrictions but that's it. Use it Freshman year to 5th year but only 1.
 
[quote="Red2395" post=303989][quote="Class of 72" post=303563][quote="MarkRedman" post=303453][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=303439][quote="MCNPA" post=303116]Heron and Ponds getting drafted is ultimately very good for Mullin and the program. It adds to his resume’, and the less and less other programs can outsell us when it comes to that stuff. I’m happy wenhave Mack replacing ponds if and when he leaves, and we have other potential stars like Figueroa etc. I don’t think we will be devoid of backcourt talent in the least. I’m also not sure Simon is ready to go unless he develops that shooting game a bit.[/quote]

There shouldn’t be any worry in Simon leaving to go pro. 5th year transfer If he wants to shine would be the issue. But If you ask me with all 3 of ponds Heron and Clark most likely gone, right here would be the best spot for him.[/quote]

Simon shouldn't be a candidate to go pro but could leave as a graduate transfer if he so desired[/quote]

I think he will leave for a program where he is guaranteed "not to play forward or center". A school needing a big point guard will be a perfect place.[/quote]

I will be very disappointed if Simon leaves us next year. He is playing 30 minutes a game this year and next year it will be his team.
If he leaves it must reflex poorly on the coaching staff that they are not building a relationship with the players.[/quote]

That last sentence is ridiculous. Nowhere has it been hinted that Justin has a bad relationship with the staff. People are trying to make Justin into a point guard, center, power forward, whatever. Justin is the epitome of the positionless player. He's the jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none poster boy. This is not a knock on him, just a statement of fact.

I love his game, Fran calls him a stat sheet stuffer, I've called him the Swiss Army knife of the team; he's a glue guy.
 
[quote="Section9" post=304036][quote="Red2395" post=303989][quote="Class of 72" post=303563][quote="MarkRedman" post=303453][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=303439][quote="MCNPA" post=303116]Heron and Ponds getting drafted is ultimately very good for Mullin and the program. It adds to his resume’, and the less and less other programs can outsell us when it comes to that stuff. I’m happy wenhave Mack replacing ponds if and when he leaves, and we have other potential stars like Figueroa etc. I don’t think we will be devoid of backcourt talent in the least. I’m also not sure Simon is ready to go unless he develops that shooting game a bit.[/quote]

There shouldn’t be any worry in Simon leaving to go pro. 5th year transfer If he wants to shine would be the issue. But If you ask me with all 3 of ponds Heron and Clark most likely gone, right here would be the best spot for him.[/quote]

Simon shouldn't be a candidate to go pro but could leave as a graduate transfer if he so desired[/quote]

I think he will leave for a program where he is guaranteed "not to play forward or center". A school needing a big point guard will be a perfect place.[/quote]

I will be very disappointed if Simon leaves us next year. He is playing 30 minutes a game this year and next year it will be his team.
If he leaves it must reflex poorly on the coaching staff that they are not building a relationship with the players.[/quote]

That last sentence is ridiculous. Nowhere has it been hinted that Justin has a bad relationship with the staff. People are trying to make Justin into a point guard, center, power forward, whatever. Justin is the epitome of the positionless player. He's the jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none poster boy. This is not a knock on him, just a statement of fact.

I love his game, Fran calls him a stat sheet stuffer, I've called him the Swiss Army knife of the team; he's a glue guy.[/quote]

I never wrote or stated that he had a bad relationship with the Staff. Most 5th year transfers are kids wanting to go from a Mid Major conference to a High Major Conference or looking for more playing time. Both of those do not fit Simon.

I want Justin here next year I love his game.

A lot of people on the site keep stating that he might act on the opportunity to be a 5th year transfer. If he does I stated that it will reflex poorly on the staff for not being able to sell him on his opportunity at St John's.
 
There is no reason to think Justin will leave. He has a very close relationship with Clark who stayed his 5th year and also appears to relate very well to staff who play him max minutes. However, if he did decide to transfer in his last year would not necessarily be any reflection on the coaching; he might just want to play his last year close to home and family. Doubt that will happen but everything that doesn't work out perfectly is not necessarily the staff's fault. Staff did a wonderful job getting Clark & Simon who have been a godsend.
 
[quote="Red2395" post=304077][quote="Section9" post=304036][quote="Red2395" post=303989][quote="Class of 72" post=303563][quote="MarkRedman" post=303453][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=303439][quote="MCNPA" post=303116]Heron and Ponds getting drafted is ultimately very good for Mullin and the program. It adds to his resume’, and the less and less other programs can outsell us when it comes to that stuff. I’m happy wenhave Mack replacing ponds if and when he leaves, and we have other potential stars like Figueroa etc. I don’t think we will be devoid of backcourt talent in the least. I’m also not sure Simon is ready to go unless he develops that shooting game a bit.[/quote]

There shouldn’t be any worry in Simon leaving to go pro. 5th year transfer If he wants to shine would be the issue. But If you ask me with all 3 of ponds Heron and Clark most likely gone, right here would be the best spot for him.[/quote]

Simon shouldn't be a candidate to go pro but could leave as a graduate transfer if he so desired[/quote]

I think he will leave for a program where he is guaranteed "not to play forward or center". A school needing a big point guard will be a perfect place.[/quote]

I will be very disappointed if Simon leaves us next year. He is playing 30 minutes a game this year and next year it will be his team.
If he leaves it must reflex poorly on the coaching staff that they are not building a relationship with the players.[/quote]

That last sentence is ridiculous. Nowhere has it been hinted that Justin has a bad relationship with the staff. People are trying to make Justin into a point guard, center, power forward, whatever. Justin is the epitome of the positionless player. He's the jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none poster boy. This is not a knock on him, just a statement of fact.

I love his game, Fran calls him a stat sheet stuffer, I've called him the Swiss Army knife of the team; he's a glue guy.[/quote]

I never wrote or stated that he had a bad relationship with the Staff. Most 5th year transfers are kids wanting to go from a Mid Major conference to a High Major Conference or looking for more playing time. Both of those do not fit Simon.


Reread your last sentence.

I want Justin here next year I love his game.

A lot of people on the site keep stating that he might act on the opportunity to be a 5th year transfer. If he does I stated that it will reflex poorly on the staff for not being able to sell him on his opportunity at St John's.[/quote]
 
Okay, it's what he said but it obviously wasn't what he meant. I understood what he meant. And comparing his situation to Clark's this year is a little silly. Clark came back to be part of a team that had two early entry candidates returning and high expectations. Unless something changes in the recruiting landscape Simon will be returning to a quite different situation. And if he still hasn't improved his shooting playing for two of the best shooters of all time he may just go somewhere he thinks that goal can better be accomplished too. I'm not saying Simon won't return and I hope very strongly that he will but I would entirely understand why he might not. However as much as I hate this team's offensive system or lack thereof I think it fits Simon's game so Mullin and staff have that going for them in keeping him around.
 
5-0 and we are debating if a player transfers next year. Doesn't matter if it's a possibility anything is a possibility but 5 games into the season ?
 
[quote="Red2395" post=304077][quote="Section9" post=304036][quote="Red2395" post=303989][quote="Class of 72" post=303563][quote="MarkRedman" post=303453][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=303439][quote="MCNPA" post=303116]Heron and Ponds getting drafted is ultimately very good for Mullin and the program. It adds to his resume’, and the less and less other programs can outsell us when it comes to that stuff. I’m happy wenhave Mack replacing ponds if and when he leaves, and we have other potential stars like Figueroa etc. I don’t think we will be devoid of backcourt talent in the least. I’m also not sure Simon is ready to go unless he develops that shooting game a bit.[/quote]

There shouldn’t be any worry in Simon leaving to go pro. 5th year transfer If he wants to shine would be the issue. But If you ask me with all 3 of ponds Heron and Clark most likely gone, right here would be the best spot for him.[/quote]

Simon shouldn't be a candidate to go pro but could leave as a graduate transfer if he so desired[/quote]

I think he will leave for a program where he is guaranteed "not to play forward or center". A school needing a big point guard will be a perfect place.[/quote]

I will be very disappointed if Simon leaves us next year. He is playing 30 minutes a game this year and next year it will be his team.
If he leaves it must reflex poorly on the coaching staff that they are not building a relationship with the players.[/quote]

That last sentence is ridiculous. Nowhere has it been hinted that Justin has a bad relationship with the staff. People are trying to make Justin into a point guard, center, power forward, whatever. Justin is the epitome of the positionless player. He's the jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none poster boy. This is not a knock on him, just a statement of fact.

I love his game, Fran calls him a stat sheet stuffer, I've called him the Swiss Army knife of the team; he's a glue guy.[/quote]

I never wrote or stated that he had a bad relationship with the Staff. Most 5th year transfers are kids wanting to go from a Mid Major conference to a High Major Conference or looking for more playing time. Both of those do not fit Simon.

I want Justin here next year I love his game.

A lot of people on the site keep stating that he might act on the opportunity to be a 5th year transfer. If he does I stated that it will reflex poorly on the staff for not being able to sell him on his opportunity at St John's.[/quote]

If Simon wants to leave for his ideal situation then he deserves it. That's his right. He's not another Tariq Owens. This is his 3rd year here and by all indications he's a great teammate. Say he wants to spend his final year closer to home. That means he has a bad relationship with the staff?
 
Going pro doesn’t necessarily mean NBA. I could see Justin having a long overseas career in one of the top flight leagues. Justin will be 23 this spring. He could be better off overseas than being a 24 yr old 5th grad student.
 
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This is why I do not post much on the site. Because people read thing the way they want to see it.

Stating that if Simon decides to leave and play at another University next would reflex poorly on the Staff.

Does not mean he has a poor relationship with the staff

Does mean that the Staff for the 2nd year would be losing a player who played key minutes and was expected to be a key player next year.

Going to the NBA is a totally different story. Leaving to play for another University because a player feels it is a better situation for them reflex's poorly on the Staff to retain key players.
 
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