Hey Nurideen, keep your chin up

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Anyone who ever bounced a ball in a schoolyeard by himself has played this game in his head: Almost no time left, and you are at the free throw stripe with the game on the line. In a vacant schoolyard, it's easy to nail two. When the moment arrives with the game on the line for real, the higher the stakes, the smaller the hoop becomes.

Nurideen Lindsey missed two yesterday - one would have tied it, two would have cinched it. Missing the first makes the second do or die. Unfortunately, it was a painful death, and we lost.

Nurideen, you're in good company among Redmen heroes:

VILLANOVA BEATS ST. JOHN'S BY 1
.By GORDON S. WHITE Jr., Special to the New York Times (The New York Times); Sports Desk
February 27, 1983, Sunday
Late City Final Edition, Section 5, Page 1, Column 1, 859 words

John Pinone, Villanova's senior center, sank a 20-foot jump shot at the buzzer of overtime today to give the Wildcats a thrilling 71-70 victory over St. John's in a battle for first place in the Big East Conference. Chris Mullin, St. John's leading scorer who had 24 points in the game, had just broken a 69-69 tie by sinking the first of two free throws with seven seconds left. When Mullin missed the second free throw, the 6-foot-8-inch Pinone rebounded, then threw up court to Stewart Granger, another senior. Granger passed back to Pinone just behind the top of the key. There was not enough time left to do anything but shoot, and Pinone did. The ball dropped cleanly through and set off several minutes of screaming and cheering by the crowd of 17,583 in the Spectrum.

*NOTE: CHRIS MULLIN IS SJU'S ALL TIME LEADING FT % SHOOTER AT .847 

As second game stands out, at Alumni Hall (Canesecca Arena) in 1980 vs. Syracuse. Bernard Rencher, our best FT shooter at the line, 5 seconds to go with a 1 and 1 that would clinch the win. Make one, a tie is guaranteed, make both, game over (no three point shot). Rencher misses the front end, Syracuse races up court, and Louis Orr hits a layup over Reggie Carter as the buzzer goes off.

Disappointing losses. Free throw misses by our best FT shooter ever (and HOF'er) and by one of our better players in our history (Rencher). they both lived to see another day. SJU went 24-5 in 1980 and tied for 1st in conference. Mullin's team as you know went to the Final Four two years later, in 1985.

There will be plenty of great days ahead for Nurideen Lindsey and we've seen just a glimpse of what he can do. We're excited. Shake it off, kid. You're in pretty good company with the guys mentioned above. Now, go out, and keep showing us what you can do. 
 
Tremendous post.

As much as it stings to go 0-2 when we could have easily split or even won the tournament, the bottom line is 6 kids playing their first games against national competition were in games against two ranked teams. Seriously in the games.

Nurideen, and the rest of these kids, are a pleasure to watch play this game. Even in losing efforts, it's so different than a few years ago now, the style of play so much more exciting and fun to watch. I look forward to us winning these games in the very near future.
 
 Finally a post not calling our player a choke artist ot whatever. Great post indeed. Everyone always talks about the last 2 missed, but all the other misses hurt just the same. D'Angelo even mentioned this about himself! Nurideen will win more games for us in the next 3 years then he will lose. Then again HE will never lose a game the team will!! Win or lose I love this team! These games are early in their careers, 2 yrs from now when they are hoisting up the trophy no one will remember this game. You have to taste defeat to appreciate the victories. 
 
Mullin's team went to the round of 16 in 1983 where they were upset by Georgia in the Carrier Dome. They did not go to the final four.  
 
 You didnt mention the NCAA tournament game against Temple when Mullin blew the free throws in the last second to cost us the game. In short, this is a very good team. This team needs a little more experience as a team playing together and in decision making on shots and of course could use some re-inforcements come january- hopefully 2 of the 3 recruits who failed to qualify. They could actually be a final four team with those 2 additions in my humble opinion. These guys are that good. Uhh just dont let it get to your head guys lol
 
 Finally a post not calling our player a choke artist ot whatever. Great post indeed. Everyone always talks about the last 2 missed, but all the other misses hurt just the same. D'Angelo even mentioned this about himself! Nurideen will win more games for us in the next 3 years then he will lose. Then again HE will never lose a game the team will!! Win or lose I love this team! These games are early in their careers, 2 yrs from now when they are hoisting up the trophy no one will remember this game. You have to taste defeat to appreciate the victories. 
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Lavin pretty much said the same thing in an after game interview. Tomorrow we will have practice, shoot foul shots and get ready for our next game.
 
 That Syracuse lose still goes down as the worst for me. My Freshman year and Alumni Hall was electric, still remember the shock when Orr hit that shot. And if my memory serves me right Rencher forgoed a lay-upto run out the clock.

Nuri will get over this just like Mullin, Rencher and the countless others who missed FT's at the end of the game or kickers who have missed game winning FG's(boise st.). Its all part of being an athlete, highs and lows.
 
And looking at a whole-team picture on top of individual comparisons, I remember St. John's losing two heartbreakers to Stanford and Purdue at the Garden a while back, and that team turned out OK. We may not get the same results as that team this season because of a lack of bodies, but 2012-13 will be special if we get some size.
 
Don't be a nitpick I was at both games and know that they went to the Final Four in 85 (I was in Lexington also). Why didn't you tell me that Mullin wasn't a HOFer while he was at SJU?


The 1980 team was ranked as high as #2, and had a chance to move up from #5 that week I believe to #1 because the four teams in front of them would have lost (including Syracuse). During a timeout before the free throw, Alumni Hall erupted in "We're number 1". What else do you remember from those games?

Mullin's team went to the round of 16 in 1983 where they were upset by Georgia in the Carrier Dome. They did not go to the final four.  
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Your recollection is 100% accurate. The place was shaking in anticipation of a huge win on national TV. You could barely hear yourself shout it was that lout. Orr too a pass from Marty Headd, drove to the basket. Reggie Carter planted himself under the basket arriving a moment too late, and Orr crashed into Carter as he released the ball and laid it in. It seemed late an eternity when the whistle blew and we hoped against hope that it was a charge. Instead it was whistled a block and the game was over. As Orr went to the line, the place went silent - dumbstruck.

Lindsay, I believe is aspecial player. He will recover, and have way more highs than lows as a Red Storm player.

 That Syracuse lose still goes down as the worst for me. My Freshman year and Alumni Hall was electric, still remember the shock when Orr hit that shot. And if my memory serves me right Rencher forgoed a lay-upto run out the clock.

Nuri will get over this just like Mullin, Rencher and the countless others who missed FT's at the end of the game or kickers who have missed game winning FG's(boise st.). Its all part of being an athlete, highs and lows.
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 I also remember that both teams were ranked in the top 10 at the time. Thats when games were on NBC. Al mcguire, billy packer and dick enberg. The good old days of college sports.
 
 I was only 13 at the time but I remember Looie calling for the offensive foul after Orr scored. I was watching it on TV. Didn't we also lose a one point game to Louisville at Alumni Hall the very next week or was it the week before the Syracuse game? I remember that game was also a heartbreaking loss.
 
I don't remem ber being a one point loss, but I do remember Darrell Griffith brough a high wire act to Alumni Hall, and they were a top ranked team also. Those GREAT games on campus were special and it owuld be nice if some of them returned.

 I was only 13 at the time but I remember Looie calling for the offensive foul after Orr scored. I was watching it on TV. Didn't we also lose a one point game to Louisville at Alumni Hall the very next week or was it the week before the Syracuse game? I remember that game was also a heartbreaking loss.
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Great Post
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Great post? Really? The kid's two brothers were murdered and his best friend died of cancer. That he managed to muddle through. Fast forward: he misses free throw, which is compared to a "painful death" and then he's advised to keep his chin up.

I'd be hard pressed to write satire in worse taste.
 
Great Post
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Great post? Really? The kid's two brothers were murdered and his best friend died of cancer. That he managed to muddle through. Fast forward: he misses free throw, which is compared to a "painful death" and then he's advised to keep his chin up.

I'd be hard pressed to write satire in worse taste.
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But when used together with what he wrote right before it "Missing the first makes the second do or die. Unfortunately, it was a painful death, and we lost. " he didn't have any bad intentions and even reading it again for me personally I have no problem with it and I use the term do or die probably at least once every game without thinking of a players life story.

Beast meant well. I think if Nuri read it he'd think the same 
 
 That Syracuse lose still goes down as the worst for me. My Freshman year and Alumni Hall was electric, still remember the shock when Orr hit that shot. And if my memory serves me right Rencher forgoed a lay-upto run out the clock.

Nuri will get over this just like Mullin, Rencher and the countless others who missed FT's at the end of the game or kickers who have missed game winning FG's(boise st.). Its all part of being an athlete, highs and lows.
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I was at the game also and noted the entire crowd cheering when Rencher was fouled. I was worried and didn't understand their jubilation, the game was not won yet. After the miss, the layup by Orr and Looie running on the court screaming the most lasting impression I have is the entire upper visiting section of Syracuse fans rising and shouting "We are Syracuse" in unison.
They were mocking our incessant chant of "We are St. John's" which the Johnnie fans were motivated to do by the paper signs given to everybody.
 
 I was only 13 at the time but I remember Looie calling for the offensive foul after Orr scored. I was watching it on TV. Didn't we also lose a one point game to Louisville at Alumni Hall the very next week or was it the week before the Syracuse game? I remember that game was also a heartbreaking loss.
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Lost to Louisville 2 weeks earlier. That was the Louisville team that won the national championship that year.
Side note,, it was also the Louisville team that was destroyed by Jeff Ruland and Iona at MSG coached by the late Jim Valvano.
 
I had long forgotten the Syracuse section rising up and mocking us. At that time Syracuse was probably our most hated rival. All in all, one of the most painful losses of the past 35 seasons. It ranks up there with how empty it felt walking out of Rupp Arena after getting controlled by G'Town in 85.

 That Syracuse lose still goes down as the worst for me. My Freshman year and Alumni Hall was electric, still remember the shock when Orr hit that shot. And if my memory serves me right Rencher forgoed a lay-upto run out the clock.

Nuri will get over this just like Mullin, Rencher and the countless others who missed FT's at the end of the game or kickers who have missed game winning FG's(boise st.). Its all part of being an athlete, highs and lows.
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I was at the game also and noted the entire crowd cheering when Rencher was fouled. I was worried and didn't understand their jubilation, the game was not won yet. After the miss, the layup by Orr and Looie running on the court screaming the most lasting impression I have is the entire upper visiting section of Syracuse fans rising and shouting "We are Syracuse" in unison.
They were mocking our incessant chant of "We are St. John's" which the Johnnie fans were motivated to do by the paper signs given to everybody.
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