Heron Injury Update

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[quote="MCNPA" post=367401][quote="Tom H O'Toole" post=367400][quote="MCNPA" post=367399]If he’s day to day, there’s a good chance he could even be back for Albany considering it’s an entire week away. All depends on how he feels. Time will tell. No rush to get him back for Albany though.[/quote]

I'd keep him out until Arizona.[/quote]

Again, it’s all how he feels with an ankle. It’s not like a knee. More rest didn’t necessarily better if he’s feeling pain free or lacks ankle instability. There won’t be an arbitrary timetable. Day-to-day is accurate in this circumstance, especially if not injured as bad as Initially thought.[/quote]

Still, if im coach, he's not playing, don't care how his ankle feels. Yeah, it's only 3 more days to plat Az, but if he aggravated in a game that we shouldn't need him in.
It would really eat at me.
 
I'm sure the coaches wish Tua Tagovailoa hadn't played in the Mississippi St game. They knew his mobility was effected by the ankle injury.

I've followed CMA since the beginning with Nolan. I can't remember for sure how Mike handles player injuries. Some coaches are more cautious than others. It's understood that no athlete plays until cleared by the doctors. But then the coach still has a decision to make.
 
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[quote="James Ray Lamb" post=367403]I'm sure the coaches wish Tua Tagovailoa hadn't played in the Mississippi St game. They knew his mobility was effected by the ankle injury.

I've followed CMA since the beginning with Nolan. I can't remember for sure how Mike handles player injuries. Some coaches are more cautious than others. It's understood that no athlete plays until cleared by the doctors. But then the coach still has a decision to make.[/quote]

I think up to now Anderson is doing a good job on in game coaching. But I think he made a mistake in playing Heron in the last few minutes of the game. Why do that in a game that was won when you have so many interchangeable parts. In short Anderson blew it. Thank goodness the injury isnt worse than it is
 
[quote="dee" post=367404][quote="James Ray Lamb" post=367403]I'm sure the coaches wish Tua Tagovailoa hadn't played in the Mississippi St game. They knew his mobility was effected by the ankle injury.

I've followed CMA since the beginning with Nolan. I can't remember for sure how Mike handles player injuries. Some coaches are more cautious than others. It's understood that no athlete plays until cleared by the doctors. But then the coach still has a decision to make.[/quote]

I think up to now Anderson is doing a good job on in game coaching. But I think he made a mistake in playing Heron in the last few minutes of the game. Why do that in a game that was won when you have so many interchangeable parts. In short Anderson blew it. Thank goodness the injury isnt worse than it is[/quote]

Although we had the momentum back, the game was still far from over. Saturday, we were up 9 at the under 4 timeout, and the game was tied in no time. Coaches are paranoid, they never thinks it's over until the last minute, whether they are ahead or behind.

Actually, Roberts was hurting on that sequence, too. Looked like he had strained a back muscle prior to the Heron play, but with only one timeout left, Anderson didn't want to burn his last one. This went on for almost a full minute, so there was really no chance to get anyone out. Roberts stayed in the game, though.
 
Or we could have sat all 10 scholarship players in the last 2 minutes and played 2 on 5 with our 2 walk ons to make sure nobody gets hurt playing basketball.
 
[quote="dee" post=367404][quote="James Ray Lamb" post=367403]I'm sure the coaches wish Tua Tagovailoa hadn't played in the Mississippi St game. They knew his mobility was effected by the ankle injury.

I've followed CMA since the beginning with Nolan. I can't remember for sure how Mike handles player injuries. Some coaches are more cautious than others. It's understood that no athlete plays until cleared by the doctors. But then the coach still has a decision to make.[/quote]

I think up to now Anderson is doing a good job on in game coaching. But I think he made a mistake in playing Heron in the last few minutes of the game. Why do that in a game that was won when you have so many interchangeable parts. In short Anderson blew it. Thank goodness the injury isnt worse than it is[/quote]

So it's coach's fault that Heron bulldozed himself down low? Heron needs to play under better control which has been a problem to date. Perhaps the injury will be motivation. As for taking him out.......why? He has been the 3rd most important player on the team thus far with Figueroa and Roberts being more integral.
Besides, Steere may be the wild card in determining the order of value to the team.
 
[quote="dee" post=367404][quote="James Ray Lamb" post=367403]I'm sure the coaches wish Tua Tagovailoa hadn't played in the Mississippi St game. They knew his mobility was effected by the ankle injury.

I've followed CMA since the beginning with Nolan. I can't remember for sure how Mike handles player injuries. Some coaches are more cautious than others. It's understood that no athlete plays until cleared by the doctors. But then the coach still has a decision to make.[/quote]

I think up to now Anderson is doing a good job on in game coaching. But I think he made a mistake in playing Heron in the last few minutes of the game. Why do that in a game that was won when you have so many interchangeable parts. In short Anderson blew it. Thank goodness the injury isnt worse than it is[/quote]

DEE, we're blowing team out by halftime, but then for some damn reason we let teams back in it during the 2nd half. If that didn't happen, we could have taking him out and he's healthy now.

Gotta learn to kill opponents off.
 
[quote="Tom H O'Toole" post=367400][quote="MCNPA" post=367399]If he’s day to day, there’s a good chance he could even be back for Albany considering it’s an entire week away. All depends on how he feels. Time will tell. No rush to get him back for Albany though.[/quote]

I'd keep him out until Arizona.[/quote]

I'd keep him out until we play Butler on New Year's Eve
This would give Heron 10 additional days to rest and rehab his ankle
We probably won't beat Arizona with or without him
Take the conservative approach and lessen the risk of re-injury
 
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[quote="MarkRedman" post=367410][quote="Tom H O'Toole" post=367400][quote="MCNPA" post=367399]If he’s day to day, there’s a good chance he could even be back for Albany considering it’s an entire week away. All depends on how he feels. Time will tell. No rush to get him back for Albany though.[/quote]

I'd keep him out until Arizona.[/quote]

I'd keep him out until our first Big East game
This would give Heron 10 additional days to rest and rehab his ankle
We probably won't beat Arizona with or without him
Take the conservative approach and lessen the risk of re-injury[/quote]

Yeah but there’s no reason at all to unless he’s actually still injured. People setting arbitrary dates is silly. Medicine doesn’t work that way.
 
Do it the NFL way--say he is day to day so future teams have to prepare assuming he will be in the line up. And I agree, save him for Butler--why risk a game with Arizona and all that travel back and forth--sitting in an airplane seat isn't the best healing process. Rather he be in whirlpool and working with a physical therapist.
 
I am leaning more like 4 weeks Need it to heal well for his sake can not rush him back Hope he heals well staff will do the right thing and will listen to the doctors when he will be able to come back team has to step up now we will have Steere which will help
 
some of the internet doctors said they could tell he tore his achilles
 
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[quote="mjmaherjr" post=367418]some of the internet doctors said they could tell he tore his achilles[/quote]

Mike, my favorite is going to come if he misses the Albany game (which he probably will). Some on here are going to say, "well, he looked healthy on the bench. Was it really the injury, or is he being disciplined? And if that's the case, is he leaving the team?"
 
[quote="SJU61982" post=367421][quote="mjmaherjr" post=367418]some of the internet doctors said they could tell he tore his achilles[/quote]

Mike, my favorite is going to come if he misses the Albany game (which he probably will). Some on here are going to say, "well, he looked healthy on the bench. Was it really the injury, or is he being disciplined? And if that's the case, is he leaving the team?"[/quote] lol
 
[quote="James Ray Lamb" post=367403]I'm sure the coaches wish Tua Tagovailoa hadn't played in the Mississippi St game. They knew his mobility was effected by the ankle injury.

I've followed CMA since the beginning with Nolan. I can't remember for sure how Mike handles player injuries. Some coaches are more cautious than others. It's understood that no athlete plays until cleared by the doctors. But then the coach still has a decision to make.[/quote]

Alabama mistake wasn’t that they played Tua in the Mississippi State game. The mistake was that they took him out of the game up 35 points with two minutes to go in the first half with their backup QB all warmed up and ready to go because he was told he was going in.
 
[quote="MCNPA" post=367412]
... People setting arbitrary dates is silly. Medicine doesn’t work that way.[/quote]

Totally agree Marcus. He'll be ready when he's ready. People don't all heal at the same speed.

We should just be glad that it appears its not as serious as it originally looked.
 
[quote="SJU85" post=367424][quote="James Ray Lamb" post=367403]I'm sure the coaches wish Tua Tagovailoa hadn't played in the Mississippi St game. They knew his mobility was effected by the ankle injury.

I've followed CMA since the beginning with Nolan. I can't remember for sure how Mike handles player injuries. Some coaches are more cautious than others. It's understood that no athlete plays until cleared by the doctors. But then the coach still has a decision to make.[/quote]

Alabama mistake wasn’t that they played Tua in the Mississippi State game. The mistake was that they took him out of the game up 35 points with two minutes to go in the first half with their backup QB all warmed up and ready to go because he was told he was going in.[/quote]

It wasn't a mistake to play Tua through the first half of that game. It wasn't a mistake to give him a chance to run the 2min drill against a live opponent 1 week after he failed on a 2min drive.

The "Mistake" was Tua's. He's not a running QB to begin with, he was playing on a surgically repaired high ankle sprain that he's played on the week before vs LSU, HE knows his body limitations better than the coach. He should have thrown the ball away instead of rolling out to try to buy time. His poor decision is why he got hurt.
 
[quote="dee" post=367404][quote="James Ray Lamb" post=367403]I'm sure the coaches wish Tua Tagovailoa hadn't played in the Mississippi St game. They knew his mobility was effected by the ankle injury.

I've followed CMA since the beginning with Nolan. I can't remember for sure how Mike handles player injuries. Some coaches are more cautious than others. It's understood that no athlete plays until cleared by the doctors. But then the coach still has a decision to make.[/quote]

I think up to now Anderson is doing a good job on in game coaching. But I think he made a mistake in playing Heron in the last few minutes of the game. Why do that in a game that was won when you have so many interchangeable parts. In short Anderson blew it. Thank goodness the injury isnt worse than it is[/quote]

Gosh, I've missed you, please post more often.:whistle:
 
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