Goodman’s “Coaches on Hot Seat”

[quote="sirvoo" post=298778]Not sure what is more full of crap, Jeff Goodman’s work or his gigantic butt chin[/quote]

With that said...he’s right on this one!
 
[quote="Ray Morgan" post=298776]Most important season for the program in a long time. If no tourney then likely no recruits to replace 3 or 4 starters that may all be gone. I don't know what excuse can be concocted if no dancing this season.. Then what? Who knows. Some made up story that requires Mullin to move back to Cali? It's now or never, isn't it?[/quote]

It is 'now or never'.
I'm in a glass half-empty mode these days, watching Igiehon go off to a neo-criminal program, in arms with a new flavor of 'super-coach...who btw works his gonads off.
I can't diss Mack or Hurley: they're building / rebuilding...and fast.
Hat's off to both of them.
Meanwhile, we'll have to rely on a great season to have a 'shot' at top guys we've been recruiting since just north of their toddler-pamper days.
Tough gig.
 
My expectations this season are that this team reaches the level of Artest/Barkley Elite Eight team.

Then, Mullin walks into a local HS gym, gets a standing ovation for giving the city a team to embrace and a wonderful college basketball season.

But unlike the last time, Mullin will not turn off recruits with pomposity. Instead, he will use it as a conduit to land a nice class.

This program has had a couple of tipping points since Carnesecca (trying keep it somewhat timely and not going back to the recruitment of Jabbar), and each time the pendulum swung in the wrong direction.

For the love of St. John himself, this program is due to finally pick the correct door with the grand prize.
 
[quote="kranmars" post=298837]My expectations this season are that this team reaches the level of Artest/Barkley Elite Eight team.

Then, Mullin walks into a local HS gym, gets a standing ovation for giving the city a team to embrace and a wonderful college basketball season.

But unlike the last time, Mullin will not turn off recruits with pomposity. Instead, he will use it as a conduit to land a nice class.

This program has had a couple of tipping points since Carnesecca (trying keep it somewhat timely and not going back to the recruitment of Jabbar), and each time the pendulum swung in the wrong direction.

For the love of St. John himself, this program is due to finally pick the correct door with the grand prize.[/quote]


After being a fan, then student then alum of St. John's for the better part of 65 years, Your expectations would be a perfect wrap for a team that I have lived with and died with over those years. Sir, from your mouth directly to GOD'S ears.
 
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[quote="kranmars" post=298837]My expectations this season are that this team reaches the level of Artest/Barkley Elite Eight team.

Then, Mullin walks into a local HS gym, gets a standing ovation for giving the city a team to embrace and a wonderful college basketball season.

But unlike the last time, Mullin will not turn off recruits with pomposity. Instead, he will use it as a conduit to land a nice class.

This program has had a couple of tipping points since Carnesecca (trying keep it somewhat timely and not going back to the recruitment of Jabbar), and each time the pendulum swung in the wrong direction.

For the love of St. John himself, this program is due to finally pick the correct door with the grand prize.[/quote]

"One of these days", Kranmars, "One of these days"...lol
You are the man and your post is invaluable!!!
Chris Mullin = a lifelong winner
St. John's Basketball = back to the winner's circle is our hope and expectation

all the best

PS Abe Lincoln was in command of SS&G so I thought I give him a little love
 
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Great posts...it's tough because my heart and my gut are at odds. My heart says we have the talent to make the Sweet 16 or better and be in the top 25. Then Mullin gets some huge recruits and everyone is happy again. My gut noticed that we lost to URI, the predicted 5th best team in the AAC right after we were ranked 25th by ESPN and my gut says "where have I seen this movie before?". For just one year it would be so refreshing to finally not only live up to but exceed expectations and have stars align. We get so high on this team then something always seems to crash us back to reality almost immediately after. For once it would be nice if the hype was real. Nothing is acceptable this season other than an NCAA appearance at bare minimum. Not the NIT either. If we don't make it this year, it could very well become 10 years without a tourney appearance before we know it. By the way, if Mullin doesn't make it, I'd bet money he resigns. I was viewed as insane for this not too long ago but Goodman said it too and now people are believing it. I'm going to give Mullin the entire season and root like hell for our guys. We are due.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=298845]Great posts...it's tough because my heart and my gut are at odds. My heart says we have the talent to make the Sweet 16 or better and be in the top 25. Then Mullin gets some huge recruits and everyone is happy again. My gut noticed that we lost to URI, the predicted 5th best team in the AAC right after we were ranked 25th by ESPN and my gut says "where have I seen this movie before?". For just one year it would be so refreshing to finally not only live up to but exceed expectations and have stars align. We get so high on this team then something always seems to crash us back to reality almost immediately after. For once it would be nice if the hype was real. Nothing is acceptable this season other than an NCAA appearance at bare minimum. Not the NIT either. If we don't make it this year, it could very well become 10 years without a tourney appearance before we know it. By the way, if Mullin doesn't make it, I'd bet money he resigns. I was viewed as insane for this not too long ago but Goodman said it too and now people are believing it. I'm going to give Mullin the entire season and root like hell for our guys. We are due.[/quote]

I agree with you you about Mullin resigning. With all we've seen from him, he doesn't seem like the type to hang around longer than wanted here, especially if he can't be succesful.
 
[quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=298844]

PS Abe Lincoln was in command of SS&G so I thought I give him a little love[/quote]

Got it. For a minute there I thought you were changing your handle to Sherman, Sheridan, Grant, and Lincoln.

Almost like "Merrill, Lynch, Pierce, Fenner, and Ziggy.";)
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=298845]Great posts...it's tough because my heart and my gut are at odds. My heart says we have the talent to make the Sweet 16 or better and be in the top 25. Then Mullin gets some huge recruits and everyone is happy again. My gut noticed that we lost to URI, the predicted 5th best team in the AAC right after we were ranked 25th by ESPN and my gut says "where have I seen this movie before?". For just one year it would be so refreshing to finally not only live up to but exceed expectations and have stars align. We get so high on this team then something always seems to crash us back to reality almost immediately after. For once it would be nice if the hype was real. Nothing is acceptable this season other than an NCAA appearance at bare minimum. Not the NIT either. If we don't make it this year, it could very well become 10 years without a tourney appearance before we know it. By the way, if Mullin doesn't make it, I'd bet money he resigns. I was viewed as insane for this not too long ago but Goodman said it too and now people are believing it. I'm going to give Mullin the entire season and root like hell for our guys. We are due.[/quote]

I'm sure you are not alone regarding the coaching staff. I believe that talent prevails, and that most fans end up disappointed because they overrate the ability of the teams they cheer for. Except this time, we know what we have, and that's 3 very good returning players and 1 surefire addition and at least 2 more that can play. So if for some reason things turn out bad, there is always the Clyde Drexler exit. Hometown hero doesn't do well as a coach, so he resigns to spend more time with his family. Almost every St. John's fan has it: that little pessimistic part of them that keeps waiting for disaster to strike, because that's what's been happening for quite a while.
 
Side note to all this, but it'd be great if Mullin could have some type of an online presence... like literally every other coach. Setting up Twitter takes five minutes. I feel it'd help with recruiting, because right now he looks out of touch.

He doesn't get to be stubborn when he's getting paid millions of dollars. If everyone else is doing it and it has no downside/effort, he needs to do it as well.

Edit: these recruits all love Twitter/ their followers. How rare is it to see a recruit not on Twitter? Being on Twitter could only help Mullin.

As a social media person myself (104K YouTube subscribers), every business I work with has online followers. I wouldn't work with companies/people who didn't. A bit different yes, but online presence affects my perception of everyone I talk to regarding business. For recruits, a lot of them see this as a business decision as well. You want to go with someone who represents themselves and the program well both online and offline.
 
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[quote="Adam" post=298869]Side note to all this, but it'd be great if Mullin could have some type of an online presence... like literally every other coach. Setting up Twitter takes five minutes. I feel it'd help with recruiting, because right now he looks out of touch.

He doesn't get to be stubborn when he's getting paid millions of dollars. If everyone else is doing it and it has no downside/effort, he needs to do it as well.

Edit: these recruits all love Twitter/ their followers. How rare is it to see a recruit not on Twitter? Being on Twitter could only help Mullin.

As a social media person myself (104K YouTube subscribers), every business I work with has online followers. I wouldn't work with companies/people who didn't. A bit different yes, but online presence affects my perception of everyone I talk to regarding business. For recruits, a lot of them see this as a business decision as well. You want to go with someone who represents themselves and the program well both online and offline.[/quote]

Chris Mullin is too good to use social media ha

I just looked at a few BE coaches and all had. Wright, Wojo, Ewing, Cooley. Not sure if Mullin is the only without.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=298845]Great posts...it's tough because my heart and my gut are at odds. My heart says we have the talent to make the Sweet 16 or better and be in the top 25. Then Mullin gets some huge recruits and everyone is happy again. My gut noticed that we lost to URI, the predicted 5th best team in the AAC right after we were ranked 25th by ESPN and my gut says "where have I seen this movie before?". For just one year it would be so refreshing to finally not only live up to but exceed expectations and have stars align. We get so high on this team then something always seems to crash us back to reality almost immediately after. For once it would be nice if the hype was real. Nothing is acceptable this season other than an NCAA appearance at bare minimum. Not the NIT either. If we don't make it this year, it could very well become 10 years without a tourney appearance before we know it. By the way, if Mullin doesn't make it, I'd bet money he resigns. I was viewed as insane for this not too long ago but Goodman said it too and now people are believing it. I'm going to give Mullin the entire season and root like hell for our guys. We are due.[/quote]

I hear you, but if Heron had a 'normal' game, we beat URI.
And Figgy had a pretty good outing for his first time in high-major competition.
He should just get better.
And hopefully, Clark digs into his inner-Dennis Rodman self and gets more boards.
The glass is half-full today.
Lol.
 
[quote="Moose" post=298876][quote="Adam" post=298869]Side note to all this, but it'd be great if Mullin could have some type of an online presence... like literally every other coach. Setting up Twitter takes five minutes. I feel it'd help with recruiting, because right now he looks out of touch.

He doesn't get to be stubborn when he's getting paid millions of dollars. If everyone else is doing it and it has no downside/effort, he needs to do it as well.

Edit: these recruits all love Twitter/ their followers. How rare is it to see a recruit not on Twitter? Being on Twitter could only help Mullin.

As a social media person myself (104K YouTube subscribers), every business I work with has online followers. I wouldn't work with companies/people who didn't. A bit different yes, but online presence affects my perception of everyone I talk to regarding business. For recruits, a lot of them see this as a business decision as well. You want to go with someone who represents themselves and the program well both online and offline.[/quote]

Chris Mullin is too good to use social media ha

I just looked at a few BE coaches and all had. Wright, Wojo, Ewing, Cooley. Not sure if Mullin is the only without.[/quote]

The guy is what he is. I think he wants to win, but his way.
We'll have to hope that Mike Cragg can give him some 'tough love' and nudge him to be more flexible, when necessary.
Nothing we can do.
Otherwise, we're right to have great expectations for this Season and hope we play ourselves deep into the radar of our top recruiting targets.
 
[quote="kranmars" post=298837]For the love of St. John himself, this program is due to finally pick the correct door with the grand prize.[/quote]
Indeed! Back in the day, people came from miles around to experience SJB’s dribbling. Of course, these days, he doesn’t offer any guidance when we’re staring down Monte Hall.
 
[quote="Moose" post=298876][quote="Adam" post=298869]Side note to all this, but it'd be great if Mullin could have some type of an online presence... like literally every other coach. Setting up Twitter takes five minutes. I feel it'd help with recruiting, because right now he looks out of touch.

He doesn't get to be stubborn when he's getting paid millions of dollars. If everyone else is doing it and it has no downside/effort, he needs to do it as well.

Edit: these recruits all love Twitter/ their followers. How rare is it to see a recruit not on Twitter? Being on Twitter could only help Mullin.

As a social media person myself (104K YouTube subscribers), every business I work with has online followers. I wouldn't work with companies/people who didn't. A bit different yes, but online presence affects my perception of everyone I talk to regarding business. For recruits, a lot of them see this as a business decision as well. You want to go with someone who represents themselves and the program well both online and offline.[/quote]

Chris Mullin is too good to use social media ha

I just looked at a few BE coaches and all had. Wright, Wojo, Ewing, Cooley. Not sure if Mullin is the only without.[/quote]

Yeah I looked up some BE coaches and coaches from other conferences prior to posting, and couldn't find anyone without a Twitter. Not only that, but all of them seem to be pretty active as well. I did like how Lavin was active and interacted with fans.

These recruits care a lot about social media and how many followers they/others have. In fact, most kids do.

Just seems there are some incredibly simple things Mullin could be doing, but is too stubborn to.

He's not a social outcast middle schooler who needs to worry about setting up an account and not gaining any traction. He can just set up and get several thousand followers overnight without posting. Then post like once a month. Really no excuses here given his contract. He needs to represent the school better.

I just don't get it.
 
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[quote="Adam" post=298869]Side note to all this, but it'd be great if Mullin could have some type of an online presence... like literally every other coach. Setting up Twitter takes five minutes. I feel it'd help with recruiting, because right now he looks out of touch.

He doesn't get to be stubborn when he's getting paid millions of dollars. If everyone else is doing it and it has no downside/effort, he needs to do it as well.

Edit: these recruits all love Twitter/ their followers. How rare is it to see a recruit not on Twitter? Being on Twitter could only help Mullin.

As a social media person myself (104K PornTube subscribers), every business I work with has online followers. I wouldn't work with companies/people who didn't. A bit different yes, but online presence affects my perception of everyone I talk to regarding business. For recruits, a lot of them see this as a business decision as well. You want to go with someone who represents themselves and the program well both online and offline.[/quote] you have 104k Porntube subscribers ? Impressive !!! I'm embarrased by my 1300 insta followers
 
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[quote="mjmaherjr" post=298897][quote="Adam" post=298869]Side note to all this, but it'd be great if Mullin could have some type of an online presence... like literally every other coach. Setting up Twitter takes five minutes. I feel it'd help with recruiting, because right now he looks out of touch.

He doesn't get to be stubborn when he's getting paid millions of dollars. If everyone else is doing it and it has no downside/effort, he needs to do it as well.

Edit: these recruits all love Twitter/ their followers. How rare is it to see a recruit not on Twitter? Being on Twitter could only help Mullin.

As a social media person myself (104K PornTube subscribers), every business I work with has online followers. I wouldn't work with companies/people who didn't. A bit different yes, but online presence affects my perception of everyone I talk to regarding business. For recruits, a lot of them see this as a business decision as well. You want to go with someone who represents themselves and the program well both online and offline.[/quote] you have 104k Porntube subscribers ? Impressive !!![/quote]

Lmao, I actually had to look back at my OP and check.

Edit based on your edit: it's a tech review channel, so I run it but they're not following for me personally. my personal social media outside of it only has a few hundred followers (Facebook, etc)
 
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[quote="Adam" post=298869]Side note to all this, but it'd be great if Mullin could have some type of an online presence... like literally every other coach. Setting up Twitter takes five minutes. I feel it'd help with recruiting, because right now he looks out of touch.

He doesn't get to be stubborn when he's getting paid millions of dollars. If everyone else is doing it and it has no downside/effort, he needs to do it as well.

Edit: these recruits all love Twitter/ their followers. How rare is it to see a recruit not on Twitter? Being on Twitter could only help Mullin.

As a social media person myself (104K YouTube subscribers), every business I work with has online followers. I wouldn't work with companies/people who didn't. A bit different yes, but online presence affects my perception of everyone I talk to regarding business. For recruits, a lot of them see this as a business decision as well. You want to go with someone who represents themselves and the program well both online and offline.[/quote]

If he was as active as his wife Liz we'd probably have Kofi and Precious by now. I kid of course, but he actually does have a Twitter account. Just doesn't use it and I think his last posts were from 2012 or something talking about the NBA if I remember correctly.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=298908][quote="Adam" post=298869]Side note to all this, but it'd be great if Mullin could have some type of an online presence... like literally every other coach. Setting up Twitter takes five minutes. I feel it'd help with recruiting, because right now he looks out of touch.

He doesn't get to be stubborn when he's getting paid millions of dollars. If everyone else is doing it and it has no downside/effort, he needs to do it as well.

Edit: these recruits all love Twitter/ their followers. How rare is it to see a recruit not on Twitter? Being on Twitter could only help Mullin.

As a social media person myself (104K YouTube subscribers), every business I work with has online followers. I wouldn't work with companies/people who didn't. A bit different yes, but online presence affects my perception of everyone I talk to regarding business. For recruits, a lot of them see this as a business decision as well. You want to go with someone who represents themselves and the program well both online and offline.[/quote]

If he was as active as his wife Liz we'd probably have Kofi and Precious by now. I kid of course, but he actually does have a Twitter account. Just doesn't use it and I think his last posts were from 2012 or something talking about the NBA if I remember correctly.[/quote]

Hm well I believe you, but I've searched for a few minutes and can't find it. Regardless, if he hasn't posted since 2012 then the account is dead anyways.
 
[quote="Adam" post=298912][quote="Mike Zaun" post=298908][quote="Adam" post=298869]Side note to all this, but it'd be great if Mullin could have some type of an online presence... like literally every other coach. Setting up Twitter takes five minutes. I feel it'd help with recruiting, because right now he looks out of touch.

He doesn't get to be stubborn when he's getting paid millions of dollars. If everyone else is doing it and it has no downside/effort, he needs to do it as well.

Edit: these recruits all love Twitter/ their followers. How rare is it to see a recruit not on Twitter? Being on Twitter could only help Mullin.

As a social media person myself (104K YouTube subscribers), every business I work with has online followers. I wouldn't work with companies/people who didn't. A bit different yes, but online presence affects my perception of everyone I talk to regarding business. For recruits, a lot of them see this as a business decision as well. You want to go with someone who represents themselves and the program well both online and offline.[/quote]

If he was as active as his wife Liz we'd probably have Kofi and Precious by now. I kid of course, but he actually does have a Twitter account. Just doesn't use it and I think his last posts were from 2012 or something talking about the NBA if I remember correctly.[/quote]

Hm well I believe you, but I've searched for a few minutes and can't find it. Regardless, if he hasn't posted since 2012 then the account is dead anyways.[/quote]

You know what? I just took a second look and that wasn't his because the more I scrolled through there were some stupid things posted. Maybe he just never had and will never have a Twitter. I do agree though it helps with recruiting and visibility. For example, when you get a commitment and the kid is still playing HS hoops if they win an award or have a great game, you want to be able to congratulate them in front of as many people as possible. Is it a huge ego trip? Yes, but these recruits love it.
 
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