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[usguard]

Those were the days my friend. The way it’s going us older guys  will never experience that again. But one never knows

 

[rcatalano]

It’s so pathetic that we as avid fans continuously live in the past! I’m so tired of this program constantly referring to our run in 1984! That was almost 50 years ago for Gods sake! 

 

[usguard]

Agree Cat

 

[monte]

It’s so pathetic that we as avid fans continuously live in the past! I’m so tired of this program constantly referring to our run in 1984! That was almost 50 years ago for Gods sake! 

When the present is in such flux and the future is so uncertain, both around our program and around the world, then you tend to revisit and relish the past that much more. It's human nature, especially as you get older. 

 

[NCJohnnie]

At least with St. John's you only have to go back to 84-85. For glory days of my Knicks, I have to go back to the early 70s.  

 

[redmannorth]

It’s so pathetic that we as avid fans continuously live in the past! I’m so tired of this program constantly referring to our run in 1984! That was almost 50 years ago for Gods sake! 

True, but as we live through these horrible times which are soon starting year 3, something we never would have imagined 2 years ago, I find reading the articles very therapeutic, it was just a nice feel good story which I believe we all could use a lot more of these days. Much better than continually reading about the rising and record daily number of Covid 19 cases in the US (  and Canada for myself and firestorm ).  There was no harm in posting same , a lot of favourable responses, and for those who didn’t like that we have to go back 37 years to read about how great we once were I simply suggest you gloss over the topic. 

 

[beast of the east]

At least with St. John's you only have to go back to 84-85. For glory days of my Knicks, I have to go back to the early 70s.  


 

Just a reminder that the Ewing les Knicks went further than the 85 Johnnie's, losing in the finals to the Rockets in 1994 and the Spurs in 99.

 

[NCJohnnie]

Beast of the East wrote:

Just a reminder that the Ewing les Knicks went further than the 85 Johnnie's, losing in the finals to the Rockets in 1994 and the Spurs in 99.

Yes Beast but if you were a fan during the championship runs, the Ewing teams would never quite measure up to the glory years just like the Elite 8 (almost final four) Jarvis team would never quite measure up to the 84-85 Mullin/Berry team. Take your point though, I did very much enjoy the Ewing - Oakley Knick teams just like I enjoyed that Artest led Johnnie team.     

 

[beast of the east]

It’s so pathetic that we as avid fans continuously live in the past! I’m so tired of this program constantly referring to our run in 1984! That was almost 50 years ago for Gods sake! 

True, but as we live through these horrible times which are soon starting year 3, something we never would have imagined 2 years ago, I find reading the articles very therapeutic, it was just a nice feel good story which I believe we all could use a lot more of these days. Much better than continually reading about the rising and record daily number of Covid 19 cases in the US (  and Canada for myself and firestorm ).  There was no harm in posting same , a lot of favourable responses, and for those who didn’t like that we have to go back 37 years to read about how great we once were I simply suggest you gloss over the topic. 

Having made the trip, like hundreds of Redmen.com posters, while it was exciting to know the entire country was aware and watching the games in Lexington, our performance was so miserable, I don't refer back to that weekend much in my mind as heyday.     Georgetown kept us at a safe distance the entire way.   

Over the years, I stopped playing the game in my mind about the draw.   I'm now convinced that we may have lost to Memphis St., and if we had gotten by them and Nova beat Gtown, it was just Villanova's year.    For the longest time, we've convinced ourselves that we were the historically superior program, but now it's very clear with 3 NCAA championships, VIllanova is far superior.   We also ignore that they went to the finals in 1971 (vacated I think because Howard Porter had an agent), Final four in 39, elite 8 in 1949, 1962, 1970, 1978, 1982, 1988, and 2006, and sweet 16 in 1955, 1964, 1972, 2005 and 2005.

For me, it's a good reason to look forward and not back.   The good old days weren't always good, as BIlly Joel sings.  And tomorrow's not as bad as it seems. 

 

[beast of the east]

Beast of the East wrote:

Just a reminder that the Ewing les Knicks went further than the 85 Johnnie's, losing in the finals to the Rockets in 1994 and the Spurs in 99.

Yes Beast but if you were a fan during the championship runs, the Ewing teams would never quite measure up to the glory years just like the Elite 8 (almost final four) Jarvis team would never quite measure up to the 84-85 Mullin/Berry team. Take your point though, I did very much enjoy the Ewing - Oakley Knick teams just like I enjoyed that Artest led Johnnie team.     

I know you're a huge Knicks fan, and I appreciate that.   I can't believe watching those games in the Oakley era, just how much brutal contact was allowed with no fouls.  Today in college, many would be flagrant fouls.  But I enjoyed the hell out of those games, which were more like combat than basketball.

 

[Alumni Hall]

I still say that if college basketball had the 3pt shot in effect when we went to the Final
Four we would have won the National Championship. Mullin would have killed it from 3 and Moses and Jackson were very good shooters from the top of the key. Plus Ron Rowan off the bench would have been a good 3pt shooter. The ability of our team to shoot the 3 would have neutralized Ewings defensive prowess inside somewhat and the Georgetown guys were slashers and scorers but they were not  necessarily great jump shooters from I can recall. We would have had a huge advantage. I think the 3pt shot came in only a year or two later. 

Gene, Rowan wasn't on that team. Mullin was the only player on that team with consistent 3 point range 
Rowan WAS on that team except he severely sprained his ankle the day before the GTown game in a team practice at Bellarmine College.
 

 

[monte]

I still say that if college basketball had the 3pt shot in effect when we went to the Final
Four we would have won the National Championship. Mullin would have killed it from 3 and Moses and Jackson were very good shooters from the top of the key. Plus Ron Rowan off the bench would have been a good 3pt shooter. The ability of our team to shoot the 3 would have neutralized Ewings defensive prowess inside somewhat and the Georgetown guys were slashers and scorers but they were not  necessarily great jump shooters from I can recall. We would have had a huge advantage. I think the 3pt shot came in only a year or two later. 

Gene, Rowan wasn't on that team. Mullin was the only player on that team with consistent 3 point range 
Rowan WAS on that team except he severely sprained his ankle the day before the GTown game in a team practice at Bellarmine College.

 

I acknowledged my error in a follow up post 

 

[fuchsia]

Reading this thread is much better than the titles to which these times draw us, Love in the Time of Cholera by Daniel Garcia Marques, A Journal of the Plague Year by Daniel DeFoe, and The Plague by Albert Camus.