Front page of Daily News/SJU Final 4

[monte]

Came across this newspaper while going through some old memorabilia,
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[NCJohnnie]

Thanks for posting that Monte - made my day!
I'd forgotten that we'd beaten NC State and Nova the Tar Heels to get to the Final Four which made it even sweeter!  As the song goes "Those were the days my friend, we thought they'd never end...".

 

[SLYFOXX1968]

Always great to see old Headlines from the 85 Season .  It was the high water mark of our last 50 years of BB .  I always wondered if we had drawn Memphis in the Final 4 Semi Final and Villanova vs G’ Town .   That would assume the Cats beating the Hoyas and us beating Memphis .  A Nova- SJ final might have had a different result as we had beaten the Cats 3 times in the regular season .   Of course , it’s all fantasy .  We have to grasp at whatever straws we can . Sanity with our BB program demands fantasy and , what if .      Lastly , Villanova winning the Title in 85 dud a enormous job in raising the profile and brand of their School .  Throw in their 2 more recent NCAA. Championships and it puts Nova in the category of Duke , UCOnn , NC , Kansas , etc   Their Academic Rankings also spiraled after their 3 NCAA Titles .   

 

[redken]

Thanks for posting that Monte - made my day!
I'd forgotten that we'd beaten NC State and Nova the Tar Heels to get to the Final Four which made it even sweeter!  As the song goes "Those were the days my friend, we thought they'd never end...". 

"Those were the days" indeed. That Daily News front-page headline on our going to the Final 4 is familiar: a framed copy is hanging in my apartmenht. Great fun reading the others. Thanks, Monte.

 

[bamafan]

Odds on favorite at 1-2 was Georgetown but the 3 other teams odds all being the same at 7-2 is odd. Nova with 10 losses and who we beat 3 times already that season having the same odds as us is strange. Obviously in hindsight not so strange.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

Odds on favorite at 1-2 was Georgetown but the 3 other teams odds all being the same at 7-2 is odd. Nova with 10 losses and who we beat 3 times already that season having the same odds as us is strange. Obviously in hindsight not so strange.

Our odds probably had having to beat Gtown first factored in.

 

[Eric]

Great stuff monte.  Just seeing the box scores and all takes me back.  Loved reading the sports sections back then.  

 

[monte]

In case you guys were wondering what other significant news was being reported on that same day, Billy and Christie tied the knot at Water's Edge in LIC   [attachment=2380]41B01EA9-8D12-44D0-8A86-925BFF786ABE.jpeg[/attachment]

 

[monte]

This is for all you younger guys who never heard of this near legend. [attachment=2381]E8FEED01-B6B7-447A-8A07-9837C3745B6D.jpeg[/attachment]

 

[Mean Gene]

I still say that if college basketball had the 3pt shot in effect when we went to the Final
Four we would have won the National Championship. Mullin would have killed it from 3 and Moses and Jackson were very good shooters from the top of the key. Plus Ron Rowan off the bench would have been a good 3pt shooter. The ability of our team to shoot the 3 would have neutralized Ewings defensive prowess inside somewhat and the Georgetown guys were slashers and scorers but they were not  necessarily great jump shooters from I can recall. We would have had a huge advantage. I think the 3pt shot came in only a year or two later. 

 

[monte]

I still say that if college basketball had the 3pt shot in effect when we went to the Final
Four we would have won the National Championship. Mullin would have killed it from 3 and Moses and Jackson were very good shooters from the top of the key. Plus Ron Rowan off the bench would have been a good 3pt shooter. The ability of our team to shoot the 3 would have neutralized Ewings defensive prowess inside somewhat and the Georgetown guys were slashers and scorers but they were not  necessarily great jump shooters from I can recall. We would have had a huge advantage. I think the 3pt shot came in only a year or two later. 

Gene, Rowan wasn't on that team. Mullin was the only player on that team with consistent 3 point range 

 

[Mean Gene]

I still say that if college basketball had the 3pt shot in effect when we went to the Final
Four we would have won the National Championship. Mullin would have killed it from 3 and Moses and Jackson were very good shooters from the top of the key. Plus Ron Rowan off the bench would have been a good 3pt shooter. The ability of our team to shoot the 3 would have neutralized Ewings defensive prowess inside somewhat and the Georgetown guys were slashers and scorers but they were not  necessarily great jump shooters from I can recall. We would have had a huge advantage. I think the 3pt shot came in only a year or two later. 

Gene, Rowan wasn't on that team. Mullin was the only player on that team with consistent 3 point range 

The box score from the paper you posted has Rowan in it.

 

[monte]

I still say that if college basketball had the 3pt shot in effect when we went to the Final
Four we would have won the National Championship. Mullin would have killed it from 3 and Moses and Jackson were very good shooters from the top of the key. Plus Ron Rowan off the bench would have been a good 3pt shooter. The ability of our team to shoot the 3 would have neutralized Ewings defensive prowess inside somewhat and the Georgetown guys were slashers and scorers but they were not  necessarily great jump shooters from I can recall. We would have had a huge advantage. I think the 3pt shot came in only a year or two later. 

Gene, Rowan wasn't on that team. Mullin was the only player on that team with consistent 3 point range 

The box score from the paper you posted has Rowan in it.

I'm that case...lol. Honestly thought he came the year after. My bad. 

 

[monte]

I still say that if college basketball had the 3pt shot in effect when we went to the Final
Four we would have won the National Championship. Mullin would have killed it from 3 and Moses and Jackson were very good shooters from the top of the key. Plus Ron Rowan off the bench would have been a good 3pt shooter. The ability of our team to shoot the 3 would have neutralized Ewings defensive prowess inside somewhat and the Georgetown guys were slashers and scorers but they were not  necessarily great jump shooters from I can recall. We would have had a huge advantage. I think the 3pt shot came in only a year or two later. 

Gene, Rowan wasn't on that team. Mullin was the only player on that team with consistent 3 point range 

The box score from the paper you posted has Rowan in it.

Man, my memory is fading by the day:
[URL]https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/st-johns-ny/1985.html[/URL]

 

[BrookJersey Redmen]

Thanks Monte, I remember the run to the Final Four like it was yesterday.

I truly believe if we got Memphis State and G Town got Nova, and Nova played liked they did in the finals. vs the Hoyas, we would have beaten Nova and been national Champs, the only team that totally had our number that year was Georgetown and we seemed to have Nova's.

By the same token who knows if Nova plays a perfect game like the final against g Town, they beat us too.

I thought to myself, no problem we'll be back here soon enough so I didn't even try to go to Lexington, my buddy did and had the time of his life.

Small town, small venue (20,000 not 60,000) and he stayed in the same hotel as the teams and players, coaches of other teams and sportswriters, he said the bar scene at the hotel was a who's who of college BB. He got into an argument with either Mike Lupica or Curry Kirkpatrick.

 

 

[BrookJersey Redmen]

I agree with the theory of us winning with the 3 point shot. We would have been more formidable with it that is for sure.

 

 

[NCJohnnie]

I had also forgotten Rowan being on that team, but he was a bit player averaging 3.5 ppg. Monte is correct that Mullin, and maybe Moses, were the only guys on that team who played significant minutes who could hit the 3. Jackson did not take a lot of long range shots in college and was a poor 3 point shooter in the pros until he was about 7 years into his career when he became decent from three. Moses, in my recollection, was a guy who could hit an open shot from the top of the key.   

 

[Mean Gene]

I had also forgotten Rowan being on that team, but he was a bit player averaging 3.5 ppg. Monte is correct that Mullin, and maybe Moses, were the only guys on that team who played significant minutes who could hit the 3. Jackson did not take a lot of long range shots in college and was a poor 3 point shooter in the pros until he was about 7 years into his career when he became decent from three. Moses, in my recollection, was a guy who could hit an open shot from the top of the key.   

If you remember, when the three point shot first came out it wasn’t as far as it is now. It was right at the top of the key. Moses could bang down that shot consistently and so could Jackson

 

[mjmaherjr]

I still say that if college basketball had the 3pt shot in effect when we went to the Final
Four we would have won the National Championship. Mullin would have killed it from 3 and Moses and Jackson were very good shooters from the top of the key. Plus Ron Rowan off the bench would have been a good 3pt shooter. The ability of our team to shoot the 3 would have neutralized Ewings defensive prowess inside somewhat and the Georgetown guys were slashers and scorers but they were not  necessarily great jump shooters from I can recall. We would have had a huge advantage. I think the 3pt shot came in only a year or two later. 

Gene, Rowan wasn't on that team. Mullin was the only player on that team with consistent 3 point range 

The box score from the paper you posted has Rowan in it.

Man, my memory is fading by the day:
[URL]https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/st-johns-ny/1985.html[/URL]

I'm sensing Monte Memory Vitamin commercials in your future. " Hey I dont just use them I remember that I used them "

 

[monte]

I still say that if college basketball had the 3pt shot in effect when we went to the Final
Four we would have won the National Championship. Mullin would have killed it from 3 and Moses and Jackson were very good shooters from the top of the key. Plus Ron Rowan off the bench would have been a good 3pt shooter. The ability of our team to shoot the 3 would have neutralized Ewings defensive prowess inside somewhat and the Georgetown guys were slashers and scorers but they were not  necessarily great jump shooters from I can recall. We would have had a huge advantage. I think the 3pt shot came in only a year or two later. 

Gene, Rowan wasn't on that team. Mullin was the only player on that team with consistent 3 point range 

The box score from the paper you posted has Rowan in it.

Man, my memory is fading by the day:
[URL]https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/st-johns-ny/1985.html[/URL]

I'm sensing Monte Memory Vitamin commercials in your future. " Hey I dont just use them I remember that I used them "

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