Earlington.........................let's discuss

[quote="Return of Earlington" post=407126]Im wondering if the Duke will get a crack at guarding mamu. Remember last year they put the duke on Georgetown's monster center and he shut him down.

Im thinking if Moore and others cant guard mamu that Earlington will get a crack at him and be successful.[/quote]

Other than ball denial, he's probably our best bet. Josh can give you some minutes, but Moore is too thin and Toro is too ... not good.
 
[quote="lawmanfan" post=407130][quote="Return of Earlington" post=407126]Im wondering if the Duke will get a crack at guarding mamu. Remember last year they put the duke on Georgetown's monster center and he shut him down.

Im thinking if Moore and others cant guard mamu that Earlington will get a crack at him and be successful.[/quote]

Other than ball denial, he's probably our best bet. Josh can give you some minutes, but Moore is too thin and Toro is too ... not good.[/quote]

Yes, we might be seeing alot more of the lineup w/ champy and duke at the 4/5 spot again. With duke manning up against manu.
 
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First off. do the players and coaches actually call him Duke? Like, is that really his nickname? Or is it a nickname that the board uses because one poster has an unusually strong love affair for him?

Secondly, some people on here need to see him for what he is: a role player that occasionally has a 'break out' game. He is not a guard and is a below average outside shooter at best, and has been his entire career. Let's not make him out to be this big inside-out threat. As many people have stated, his value to this team is by doing the dirty work, and playing his role, and he needs to more consistently do that.
 
[quote="Amaseinyourface" post=407121][quote="lawmanfan" post=407120][quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=407072]If Duke could continue to play like he did 2nd half last night and at the end of the season last year, a line up w Duke at the 4 and Champ at the 5 could be productive.[/quote]

Champagnie at CENTER?[/quote]

It’s semantics who is the center and who is the PF, but that was the 4/5 we had most success with last season.[/quote]

Did you guys see the Creighton vs Kansas? Creightons 6'11 freshmen played 8 mins with 1 point 1 rebound. Epperson didn't play. Kansas was better with McCormick on the bench, there bench doesn't have anyone over 6'8

Is it important to have size , yes it is. It is not necessary to win these days like some on this board make it seem. Gonzaga is even better with Corey at the 4, look at Nova as well. Champagine can play the 5 if needed, and as some say it might even be our best line up.
 
[quote="SigEpSJU09" post=407134][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=407121][quote="lawmanfan" post=407120][quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=407072]If Duke could continue to play like he did 2nd half last night and at the end of the season last year, a line up w Duke at the 4 and Champ at the 5 could be productive.[/quote]

Champagnie at CENTER?[/quote]

It’s semantics who is the center and who is the PF, but that was the 4/5 we had most success with last season.[/quote]

Did you guys see the Creighton vs Kansas? Creightons 6'11 freshmen played 8 mins with 1 point 1 rebound. Epperson didn't play. Kansas was better with McCormick on the bench, there bench doesn't have anyone over 6'8

Is it important to have size , yes it is. It is not necessary to win these days like some on this board make it seem. Gonzaga is even better with Corey at the 4, look at Nova as well. Champagine can play the 5 if needed, and as some say it might even be our best line up.[/quote]

Could not agree more, all attributes, size, speed, jumping ability, etc. mean very little to the first question a very successful D2 coach in Jersey used to ask when someone started out describing those types of qualities when recommending a player - “Yeah but can he play?” Great players have come in all types of sizes, with all types of physical attributes but they all had that in common, they could play.
 
If you remember last season, the Duke was up and down the first 3 quarters of the season and around this time last year, he broke out and was our best player down the stetch and into the big east tourney.

After last nights performance, could the same thing be happening again?  In the last month of the season last year, the Duke had games of 25, 12, 17, 12, and in the big east tourney game against Gtown had 19.

If the "down the stretch/post season Earlington" light has went on, this team has a legit shot at the big east title and a deep run in the NCAA tourney.

I think down the "stretch/postseason Earloington" has been activated.  What a ride this is going to be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Keep rebounding and you can have all the fun you want out there Marcellus. We should look for some post opportunities as well. 
 
Tarik Turner said ast night that he watched Earlington practice 3s after practice was over and everyone but him left the gym. The result of that desire paid off right away. For that reason alone, I am a fan.
 
I don't know who will guard who, but I expect a different SJU team out there this time.  Will be much harder for the Hall to get theirs this time around.  Earlington just needs to keep making smart plays and making his shots.  
 
Think Champ at center  if he is guarding opposing teams centers could open him up to accumulating more fouls limiting his PT
 
 
stormin normin" post=407133 said:
First off. do the players and coaches actually call him Duke? Like, is that really his nickname? Or is it a nickname that the board uses because one poster has an unusually strong love affair for him?

Secondly, some people on here need to see him for what he is: a role player that occasionally has a 'break out' game. He is not a guard and is a below average outside shooter at best, and has been his entire career. Let's not make him out to be this big inside-out threat. As many people have stated, his value to this team is by doing the dirty work, and playing his role, and he needs to more consistently do that.

one of my favorite Rock snd Roll - doo wop songs as a young teen:



 
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stormin normin" post=407133 said:
First off. do the players and coaches actually call him Duke? Like, is that really his nickname? Or is it a nickname that the board uses because one poster has an unusually strong love affair for him?

Secondly, some people on here need to see him for what he is: a role player that occasionally has a 'break out' game. He is not a guard and is a below average outside shooter at best, and has been his entire career. Let's not make him out to be this big inside-out threat. As many people have stated, his value to this team is by doing the dirty work, and playing his role, and he needs to more consistently do that.
Your post appears unreasonably harsh, but it really isn't.   Basketball shooting is similar to hitting in baseball in that streaks occur.   When you are in a groove shooting in basketball the rim appears as big as a hoola hoop, and when you aren't, it's like the hoops in the carnival games where the cyllinder is only slightly larger than the ball.   On nights where Ellington is feeling it, like the other night, he is a valuable offensive contributor.   Other nights not.

I'd agree here with Mase.. keep rebounding and he stays on the court more.  Points are a nice bonus when he contributes that way, but he has other values on defense and rebounding.
 
 
Logen" post=407158 said:
SigEpSJU09" post=407134 said:
Amaseinyourface" post=407121 said:
lawmanfan" post=407120 said:
richard A Steinfeld" post=407072 said:
If Duke could continue to play like he did 2nd half last night and at the end of the season last year, a line uthink p w Duke at the 4 and Champ at the 5 could be productive.

Champagnie at CENTER?

It’s semantics who is the center and who is the PF, but that was the 4/5 we had most success with last season.

Did you guys see the Creighton vs Kansas? Creightons 6'11 freshmen played 8 mins with 1 point 1 rebound. Epperson didn't play. Kansas was better with McCormick on the bench, there bench doesn't have anyone over 6'8

Is it important to have size , yes it is. It is not necessary to win these days like some on this board make it seem. Gonzaga is even better with Corey at the 4, look at Nova as well. Champagine can play the 5 if needed, and as some say it might even be our best line up.

Could not agree more, all attributes, size, speed, jumping ability, etc. mean very little to the first question a very successful D2 coach in Jersey used to ask when someone started out describing those types of qualities when recommending a player - “Yeah but can he play?” Great players have come in all types of sizes, with all types of physical attributes but they all had that in common, they could play.

think Charles Barkley who helped Auburn upset St.John's in NCAAs
 
 
Sherman said:
Logen" post=407158 said:
SigEpSJU09" post=407134 said:
Amaseinyourface" post=407121 said:
lawmanfan" post=407120 said:
richard A Steinfeld" post=407072 said:
If Duke could continue to play like he did 2nd half last night and at the end of the season last year, a line uthink p w Duke at the 4 and Champ at the 5 could be productive.

Champagnie at CENTER?

It’s semantics who is the center and who is the PF, but that was the 4/5 we had most success with last season.

Did you guys see the Creighton vs Kansas? Creightons 6'11 freshmen played 8 mins with 1 point 1 rebound. Epperson didn't play. Kansas was better with McCormick on the bench, there bench doesn't have anyone over 6'8

Is it important to have size , yes it is. It is not necessary to win these days like some on this board make it seem. Gonzaga is even better with Corey at the 4, look at Nova as well. Champagine can play the 5 if needed, and as some say it might even be our best line up.

Could not agree more, all attributes, size, speed, jumping ability, etc. mean very little to the first question a very successful D2 coach in Jersey used to ask when someone started out describing those types of qualities when recommending a player - “Yeah but can he play?” Great players have come in all types of sizes, with all types of physical attributes but they all had that in common, they could play.

think Charles Barkley who helped Auburn upset St.John's in NCAAs

 
General, it was Chuck Person, Barkley was already in the league. 
Have a great day General. 
 
Not necessary (or reasonable) to compare Earlington to either Person or Barkley but he is a key role player on this team.  When he plays better, and inside his role, we are a completely different and better team.  Same can be said for Moore, and to a lesser extent Cole.
 
Marcellus is a good Big East sub who had a great night. Let's keep it in perspective. As Mase noted his primary contribution will be rebounding, defending. Glad to have him, but not the guy who will regularly be offensive force imo. Good nights happen though and would welcome more for sure.
 
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Earlington triggers my Loscutoff memories, just as Wusu makes me think of Al Attles, players who physically moved opposing defenders around so that the rest of the team had the spacing they needed to succeed.  Their basketball skills were a bonus to their physicality.  BTW my first glimpse of Nyiwe made me think "Hulk, smash" which could go a long way with the talent we will have on next year's team.
 
We really dont have a tree, as Louie used to say , eg Wennington , but we do have guys that have been able to offset some of the trees in the league . Earlington and Adewusu give us two guys in the 250lb  range who max out at 6'7 . The big men we face in the league max out at around the same weight but are 6'10 or more .Our guys are more compact and  able to lean on these guys and are not pushed around too much . 
 
Duke has become very proficient at taking charges. How ironic.
 
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