Dowling College closing on June 3,2016
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All may not be lost:
http://longisland.news12.com/news/s...iations-could-save-dowling-college-1.11867584
A News 12 source close to Dowling College says that there are 11th-hour negotiations taking place that could save the school. As of midnight, Dowling has not commented on any deal.
Earlier this week, officials said the institution would close for good on Friday. Dowling's registrar, bursar and degree audit offices will be open through next Wednesday.
Students have been scrambling to get their transcripts so they can transfer to other schools.
Molloy College, Suffolk Community College, Adelphi University, Hofstra University, Stony Brook University, St. Joseph's College, Nassau Community College and Farmingdale State College are all helping Dowling students figure out their next steps.
William Trapani, of Farmingville, needs one class this summer and three more in the fall to complete his master's degree in secondary education at Dowling. He says he was at least able to find some peace of mind Thursday after meeting with representatives from Molloy.
"They actually offer all of the classes that I need to complete my certifications and degrees," says Trapani.
Back on campus, the reality is beginning to settle in for students and alumni. Cathy LoSchiavo, of Medford, graduated in 1977. She returned to the campus Thursday to recollect.
"It's very heartbreaking for me personally, so I'm here to say goodbye," she says.
http://longisland.news12.com/news/s...iations-could-save-dowling-college-1.11867584
A News 12 source close to Dowling College says that there are 11th-hour negotiations taking place that could save the school. As of midnight, Dowling has not commented on any deal.
Earlier this week, officials said the institution would close for good on Friday. Dowling's registrar, bursar and degree audit offices will be open through next Wednesday.
Students have been scrambling to get their transcripts so they can transfer to other schools.
Molloy College, Suffolk Community College, Adelphi University, Hofstra University, Stony Brook University, St. Joseph's College, Nassau Community College and Farmingdale State College are all helping Dowling students figure out their next steps.
William Trapani, of Farmingville, needs one class this summer and three more in the fall to complete his master's degree in secondary education at Dowling. He says he was at least able to find some peace of mind Thursday after meeting with representatives from Molloy.
"They actually offer all of the classes that I need to complete my certifications and degrees," says Trapani.
Back on campus, the reality is beginning to settle in for students and alumni. Cathy LoSchiavo, of Medford, graduated in 1977. She returned to the campus Thursday to recollect.
"It's very heartbreaking for me personally, so I'm here to say goodbye," she says.
No I don't mind you asking.
While she excelled academically (3.9 GPA), the reason she is transferring is she did not enjoy the campus life or the school in general. It didn't have the college campus feel or atmosphere she was looking for. It did not have not enough activities that students participated in and apparently still has a "commuter school" feel which was not for her. Out of her freshman dorm room of four, she is the third one to transfer out and if she had been honest about, probably would have transferred at the end of her freshman year like the other two who left did.
It would not have surprised me if she had decided to go to a school with D1 football and basketball programs (she looked at Penn State and Rutgers, she thought PS was too big and she did not like RU at all) but of more importance to her is that college feel. While Binghamton is not a big time D1 school, there are so many kids living on campus, plenty of extracurricular activities to choose from with more students involved mainly because so many of the students live on campus. So it has that college campus fee she is looking for (hopefully but I think it will).
And Binghampton's $34K per year cheaper for in-state upperclassmen business students! 
Re Dowling, had heard there was some bailout being investigated earlier in the week. Closing without notice and limiting the ability for effective transition for the students AND faculty is wrong.
Re Dowling, had heard there was some bailout being investigated earlier in the week. Closing without notice and limiting the ability for effective transition for the students AND faculty is wrong.
MarkRedman
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And Binghampton's $34K per year cheaper for in-state upperclassmen business students!
Re Dowling, had heard there was some bailout being investigated earlier in the week. Closing without notice and limiting the ability for effective transition for the students AND faculty is wrong.
A last gasp effort to try to keep Dowling open
http://www.newsday.com/long-island/...-pay-down-school-s-debt-1.11872717?pts=477279
And Binghampton's $34K per year cheaper for in-state upperclassmen business students!
Re Dowling, had heard there was some bailout being investigated earlier in the week. Closing without notice and limiting the ability for effective transition for the students AND faculty is wrong.
Yes the cheaper tuition is a nice side benefit
. To be fair, St. John's offered her a nice academic scholarship package coming out of high school due to her grades and they also reduced the tuition by a couple of grand or so for graduating from a Catholic HS. That and another grant/scholarship from another organization helped bring the the cost down within range of a good SUNY school.A few students from her High School were offered nice scholarship packages for academics from St. John's.
I had heard previously Dowling was trying to work something out but when they made the announcement they were closing earlier this week as those talks did not work out. I did hear this morning there was a last ditch effort.
Shame, one of the kid I have known for a long time was interviewed briefly yesterday. She just completed her freshman year and was on the women's soccer team. I have no idea what she plans to do for next year.
One telling fact is that few, if, any, of those 100+/- individuals that regularly post on this site, have had a son or daughter graduate from St.John's. Each of the regular posters on this site I know have fond memories about StJohn's but for whatever reasons they chose to send their kids to other colleges. The Honorable "SJU85" was the only poster I knew that send a child to St.John's and his daughter is now transferring.
The fact that the loyal alums of St.John's do not have kids attend the school says a lot about St.John's standing. I regularly visit the sport message boards of 2 other D1 colleges and I am amazed about how the alum posters post about the achievements of their school and how proud they are when their son/ daughter gets accepted or graduates from their alma mater. Unfortunately I have never seen such posting on this site.
I don't know how StJohn's can improve its academic footprint but I believe that the seeming 1960s business/ academic model which StJohn's adopted and perpetuated under the Harrington regime of just being "big" and attempting to be something for everyone is outdated.
For example, can some explain to me why St.John's has so many campuses? I doubt that any of the St.John's campuses are financially self supporting. Who pays for those extended campuses in Rome, Paris, Oakdale, and Staten Island? Those campuses are likely paid out of tuition generated operating income or funds from endowments that could otherwise be used to fund exceptional students or new programs. [note: I am acquainted to an older St.John's alum who loves the St.John's European campuses because he travels and stays for next to nothing on the StJohn's campuses in Europe. ]. The last I checked Harvard had just one campus in Boston. What do the additional campuses add to the St.John's to justify the financial outlay?
I cite the multiple campuses as one example of unnecessary financial waste.. I am sure that there are many more examples of financial drains and outdated practices which were begun in financially more lucrative times which now burden St.John's and add to its mediocrity. In my opinion the St.John's business model is broken.
Colleges are in a consumer industry. StJohn's must focus on quality and cost. StJohn's and other colleges can no longer expect families to pay full sticker price for mediocre education and cannot "discount" student tuition forever without further deluging its applicant pool.
Does St.John's even have an "Honors College"?
The fact that the loyal alums of St.John's do not have kids attend the school says a lot about St.John's standing. I regularly visit the sport message boards of 2 other D1 colleges and I am amazed about how the alum posters post about the achievements of their school and how proud they are when their son/ daughter gets accepted or graduates from their alma mater. Unfortunately I have never seen such posting on this site.
I don't know how StJohn's can improve its academic footprint but I believe that the seeming 1960s business/ academic model which StJohn's adopted and perpetuated under the Harrington regime of just being "big" and attempting to be something for everyone is outdated.
For example, can some explain to me why St.John's has so many campuses? I doubt that any of the St.John's campuses are financially self supporting. Who pays for those extended campuses in Rome, Paris, Oakdale, and Staten Island? Those campuses are likely paid out of tuition generated operating income or funds from endowments that could otherwise be used to fund exceptional students or new programs. [note: I am acquainted to an older St.John's alum who loves the St.John's European campuses because he travels and stays for next to nothing on the StJohn's campuses in Europe. ]. The last I checked Harvard had just one campus in Boston. What do the additional campuses add to the St.John's to justify the financial outlay?
I cite the multiple campuses as one example of unnecessary financial waste.. I am sure that there are many more examples of financial drains and outdated practices which were begun in financially more lucrative times which now burden St.John's and add to its mediocrity. In my opinion the St.John's business model is broken.
Colleges are in a consumer industry. StJohn's must focus on quality and cost. StJohn's and other colleges can no longer expect families to pay full sticker price for mediocre education and cannot "discount" student tuition forever without further deluging its applicant pool.
Does St.John's even have an "Honors College"?
jerseyshorejohnny
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Oakdale is up for sale.
MarkRedman
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Oakdale shouldn't really count
That "campus:" has primarily been used for graduate programs in education
With my daughter no, but as far as I know she didn't really talk to anyone in administration just put in the paperwork. I don't know about her former roommates.
The composition of the locations of where the student body hail from is interesting. Her freshman year roommates were from California, Washington and Connecticut. The one from California is the one that stayed. This year she was in a suite (four rooms, seven students) and some of the students came from places like Georgia, Maryland and Delaware.