Distribution of Minutes

room112

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As a fan, I can't recall a time over the past couple of decades when we had so much quality and depth from top to bottom. Now with Champagnie returning, what is your guess on what the distribution of minutes will look like for this upcoming season?
 
Room112 post=436012 said:
As a fan, I can't recall a time over the past couple of decades when we had so much quality and depth from top to bottom. Now with Champagnie returning, what is your guess on what the distribution of minutes will look like for this upcoming season?
Champy and posh will play 30 plus a night.  Everyone else will probably depend on how they are playing that night.
 
I agree this does appear to be a deep team.  However, we will have to see how fast our inexperienced and transitioning players (which represents more than half the roster) can contribute.  I have a ton of confidence in CMA and I don't mean to douse all the optimism.  Just pointing out that the staff will have to develop a number of projects in order to unlock that depth.  This is CMA's specialty so I do have a positive outlook.

Never Played a College Game
Stanley
Pinzon
Traore
Eyiwe


Transitioning to High Major Conference
Coburn
Soriano
Smith

 
 
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JohnnyFan post=436015 said:
I agree this does appear to be a deep team.  However, we will have to see how fast our inexperienced and transitioning players (which represents more than half the roster) can contribute.  I have a ton of confidence in CMA and I don't mean to douse all the optimism.  Just pointing out that the staff will have to develop a number of projects in order to unlock that depth.  This is CMA's specialty so I do have a positive outlook.

Never Played a College Game
Stanley
Pinzon
Traore
Eyiwe


Transitioning to High Major Conference
Coburn
Soriano
Smith


 

I couldn’t help but remind myself during the new found excitement that even with JC, there are only 2-3 “sure things” in terms of BE performers on the roster, with a lot of potential elsewhere. Even the transfers from high majors are guys we are hoping prove to be better than they were at their last stop.
 
JohnnyFan post=436015 said:
I agree this does appear to be a deep team.  However, we will have to see how fast our inexperienced and transitioning players (which represents more than half the roster) can contribute.  I have a ton of confidence in CMA and I don't mean to douse all the optimism.  Just pointing out that the staff will have to develop a number of projects in order to unlock that depth.  This is CMA's specialty so I do have a positive outlook.

Never Played a College Game
Stanley
Pinzon
Traore
Eyiwe


Transitioning to High Major Conference
Coburn
Soriano
Smith

Smith, Coburn, Soriano, Mathis, and Wheeler have all put up 20+ point games against Power 5 teams.
 
JohnnyFan post=436015 said:
I agree this does appear to be a deep team.  However, we will have to see how fast our inexperienced and transitioning players (which represents more than half the roster) can contribute.  I have a ton of confidence in CMA and I don't mean to douse all the optimism.  Just pointing out that the staff will have to develop a number of projects in order to unlock that depth.  This is CMA's specialty so I do have a positive outlook.

Never Played a College Game
Stanley
Pinzon
Traore
Eyiwe


Transitioning to High Major Conference
Coburn
Soriano
Smith


 
You are absolutely right. 

I just love the experience this team has. Smith has logged a ton of D1 minutes. Wheeler coming from Purdue. Soriano a legit double double guy in the A10 which isn’t terrible. 

it feels like our freshmen can come in and ease into their roles as opposed to last year where we basically needed Posh and Wusu to heavily contribute immediately. 

Honestly we will see how it all plays out but I’m just so f’n happy we get another year of Posh and Champ. They have great chemistry. Having two stars is a hell of a feeling 
 
Room112 post=436012 said:
As a fan, I can't recall a time over the past couple of decades when we had so much quality and depth from top to bottom. Now with Champagnie returning, what is your guess on what the distribution of minutes will look like for this upcoming season?
It's going to be interesting, because Julian from reading the ESPN has made it clear to staff one of the reason's he's returning is because he wants to work on his game and transition more to a 2/3 rather than playing strictly at the 4.  I was arguing earlier in the off-season with some guys that he would stay at the 4 because he played so well there and CMA prefers small ball lineups, but looks like staff may make changes to help Julian with his draft stock, so we'll see how that goes.

With that said I think CMA plays a 10-man rotation this year, I think Pinzon and Drissa will end up being the odd men out.  Pinzon simply because he'll be behind mostly 4th and 5th year players.  I do think CMA will find playing time for him when he can and he may even steal a rotation spot as the year goes on.  As of now I see minutes playing out like this...  

1. Alexander (30 MPG) / Smith (10 MPG)
2. Mathis (18 MPG) / Wusu (14 MPG) / Smith (8 MPG)
3. Champagnie (20 MPG) / Coburn (14 MPG) / Wusu (6 MPG)
4. Wheeler (18 MPG) /  Champagnie (12 MPG) / Stanley (10 MPG) 
5. Soriano (20 MPG) / Nyiwe (14 MPG) / Wheeler (6 MPG)

Minutes Breakdown

Champagnie - 32 MPG
Alexander - 30 MPG
Wheeler - 24 MPG
Soriano - 20 MPG
Wusu - 20 MPG
Smith - 18 MPG
Mathis - 18 MPG
Nyiwe - 14 MPG
Coburn - 14 MPG
Stanley - 10 MPG


 
 
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Making Plays post=436045 said:
Room112 post=436012 said:
As a fan, I can't recall a time over the past couple of decades when we had so much quality and depth from top to bottom. Now with Champagnie returning, what is your guess on what the distribution of minutes will look like for this upcoming season?
It's going to be interesting, because Julian from reading the ESPN has made it clear to staff one of the reason's he's returning is because he wants to work on his game and transition more to a 2/3 rather than playing strictly at the 4.  I was arguing earlier in the off-season with some guys that he would stay at the 4 because he played so well there and CMA prefers small ball lineups, but looks like staff may make changes to help Julian with his draft stock, so we'll see how that goes.

With that said I think CMA plays a 10-man rotation this year, I think Pinzon and Drissa will end up being the odd men out.  Pinzon simply because he'll be behind mostly 4th and 5th year players.  I do think CMA will find playing time for him when he can and he may even steal a rotation spot as the year goes on.  As of now I see minutes playing out like this...  

1. Alexander (30 MPG) / Smith (10 MPG)
2. Mathis (18 MPG) / Wusu (14 MPG) / Smith (8 MPG)
3. Champagnie (20 MPG) / Coburn (14 MPG) / Wusu (6 MPG)
4. Wheeler (18 MPG) /  Champagnie (12 MPG) / Stanley (10 MPG) 
5. Soriano (20 MPG) / Nyiwe (14 MPG) / Wheeler (6 MPG)

Minutes Breakdown

Champagnie - 32 MPG
Alexander - 30 MPG
Wheeler - 24 MPG
Soriano - 20 MPG
Wusu - 20 MPG
Smith - 18 MPG
Mathis - 18 MPG
Nyiwe - 14 MPG
Coburn - 14 MPG
Stanley - 10 MPG



 


I like this but I don’t foresee Wheeler as third biggest minute guy. I think it will be from the backcourt.
 
I think it will be good to free-up Champs to play more of a 3-role.  Teams were getting on him a lot in the post.  We have more guys which should make him even more effective.  With our style we have plenty of minutes to go around.  I don’t think it’s a problem at all. 
 
This might be the year CMA will finally have the team at SJU to play 40 minutes of hell.  will definitely have a 10 man rotation and if working well top minutes for any one player will 30 (or a couple less) as it will be all out energy
 
Amaseinyourface post=436046 said:
Making Plays post=436045 said:
Room112 post=436012 said:
As a fan, I can't recall a time over the past couple of decades when we had so much quality and depth from top to bottom. Now with Champagnie returning, what is your guess on what the distribution of minutes will look like for this upcoming season?
It's going to be interesting, because Julian from reading the ESPN has made it clear to staff one of the reason's he's returning is because he wants to work on his game and transition more to a 2/3 rather than playing strictly at the 4.  I was arguing earlier in the off-season with some guys that he would stay at the 4 because he played so well there and CMA prefers small ball lineups, but looks like staff may make changes to help Julian with his draft stock, so we'll see how that goes.

With that said I think CMA plays a 10-man rotation this year, I think Pinzon and Drissa will end up being the odd men out.  Pinzon simply because he'll be behind mostly 4th and 5th year players.  I do think CMA will find playing time for him when he can and he may even steal a rotation spot as the year goes on.  As of now I see minutes playing out like this...  

1. Alexander (30 MPG) / Smith (10 MPG)
2. Mathis (18 MPG) / Wusu (14 MPG) / Smith (8 MPG)
3. Champagnie (20 MPG) / Coburn (14 MPG) / Wusu (6 MPG)
4. Wheeler (18 MPG) /  Champagnie (12 MPG) / Stanley (10 MPG) 
5. Soriano (20 MPG) / Nyiwe (14 MPG) / Wheeler (6 MPG)

Minutes Breakdown

Champagnie - 32 MPG
Alexander - 30 MPG
Wheeler - 24 MPG
Soriano - 20 MPG
Wusu - 20 MPG
Smith - 18 MPG
Mathis - 18 MPG
Nyiwe - 14 MPG
Coburn - 14 MPG
Stanley - 10 MPG




 


I like this but I don’t foresee Wheeler as third biggest minute guy. I think it will be from the backcourt.
I could see that.  Reason I have Wheeler at more minutes is I think it will be harder for the guards like Mathis, Coburn, Smith, and Wusu to separate themselves from one another, the back court is deep and I think all of them will play well enough to demand minutes. For one of those 4 I mentioned to play 25+ minutes that means one of the other guys is essentially not going to be in the rotation or play less than 10 MPG.  The front court on the other hand is weaker with 3 of the forwards never even playing D1 basketball and Wheeler is the most experience amongst all of them and the most versatile, he's quick enough to play at the 4, and big enough to play at the 5 position in the small ball lineups CMA likes.
 
Even with  deeper & stronger backcourt this year vs. last, I think Wusu will get a bit more than the 20 mpg he had last year. Important he continues to grow.
 
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RedStormNC post=436052 said:
Even with  deeper & stronger backcourt this year vs. last, I think Wusu will get a bit more than the 20 mpg he had last year. Important he continues to grow.
I could see that as well.  If I had to make a bet on any guard separting themselves from the pack outside of Posh, it would be Wusu.  You can't teach 6'4 240, you can really put him in the game at the 1-4 position.
 
Biggest challenge imo will be incorporating many new faces and figuring out best combinations depending on the situation. On paper Johnnies seem to have very solid pieces and I trust staff to master the above in reasonable time. These guys can coach and have been through the wars. Potentially a very winning group and season. 
 
Having seen Smith play a lot as I follow the America East you will enjoy watching him play. It is a little too early to predict minutes except for Posh and Champs who I don't see coming off the court very often.
 
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My main concern with that breakdown of minutes is that if Pinzon and Traore play a combined 4 mpg, we won't be getting LuHi kids for a while afterward. I know they have to earn it and we have a lot of depth, but the game is not what it was 35 years ago.

Solid breakdown, but I do think Soriano will be third on the team in minutes. 
 
I've got Nyiwe at 80 minutes a game playing multiple positions at once
 
Aside from Julian and Posh and (maybe) Wusu, who really knows? 

This time last year, we were convinced Vince Cole was going to be a stud and Wusu was going to be a project.

 
 
My biggest concern w/ Soriano is his fit on offense. I watched a few Fordham games last year. At first was jealous that Fordham had a real big. The more I saw, I found him to be a bit slow and one dimensional on offense.   If not a put back dunk, then a bit of a close my eyes, toss up a baby hook and see if it goes in. In fairness, Fordham had little other offense.

Can se3 he and Nyiwe battling for time.  Nwiye just seems a lot more mobile for a team like ours.

I hope he proves me dead wrong  in conference play and the bigger OOC games.
 
 
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RedStormNC post=436077 said:
My biggest concern w/ Soriano is his fit on offense.  I watched a few Fordham games last year.  At first was jealous that Fordham had a real big.   Then. just found him to be a bit slow and one dimensional on offense and a if not a dunk, then a bit of a close my eyes, toss up a baby hook and see if it goes in.

Can he and Nyiwe battling for time.  Nwiye just seems a lot more mobile.

I hope he proves me dead wrong  conference play.

Don’t disagree, but I’ve seen guys like Delgado and  Obiagu do good  things for the Hall, even with their lack of top notch mobility.  Delgado got a ton of minutes and Obiagu less, but point is that I don’t thing Soriano is a 30mpg kid.  He’s more likely a 10-15 mpg kid at first at his size and will likely split a bunch of time with our other bigs.  If he leans up and gets more mobile and develops his game in the post, he can certainly give us a lot more. Don’t thing we quite know his potential just yet.
 
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