Dirty recruiting

tom in salem

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 http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/19865011/critical-coaches-which-player-had-the-dirtiest-recruitment

On Kyle Anderson: “A kid doesn't go across the country to a school that doesn't fit his style of play – and turn down some of the top East coast schools – without it being it unfair. It doesn't make sense from a basketball standpoint.”
 
 http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/19865011/critical-coaches-which-player-had-the-dirtiest-recruitment

On Kyle Anderson: “A kid doesn't go across the country to a school that doesn't fit his style of play – and turn down some of the top East coast schools – without it being it unfair. It doesn't make sense from a basketball standpoint.”
 I guess "Vinny Chase" just had to check out the Entourage set - he he he - yeah, right...
 
 http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/19865011/critical-coaches-which-player-had-the-dirtiest-recruitment

On Kyle Anderson: “A kid doesn't go across the country to a school that doesn't fit his style of play – and turn down some of the top East coast schools – without it being it unfair. It doesn't make sense from a basketball standpoint.”
 I guess "Vinny Chase" just had to check out the Entourage set - he he he - yeah, right...
 

Yeah, aspiring NBA PG picks the ONLY school with 9 pgs in the NBA, and the only coach that's sent 9 pgs to the NBA in the previous 11 seasons...

Yeah - HUGE mystery....no sense to it at all...
 
 http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/19865011/critical-coaches-which-player-had-the-dirtiest-recruitment

On Kyle Anderson: “A kid doesn't go across the country to a school that doesn't fit his style of play – and turn down some of the top East coast schools – without it being it unfair. It doesn't make sense from a basketball standpoint.”
 I guess "Vinny Chase" just had to check out the Entourage set - he he he - yeah, right...
 

Yeah, aspiring NBA PG picks the ONLY school with 9 pgs in the NBA, and the only coach that's sent 9 pgs to the NBA in the previous 11 seasons...

Yeah - HUGE mystery....no sense to it at all...
 

Kyle Sr had said that he only wanted to deal with schools that would let Kyle Jr play PG but we've heard alreadyw that Larry Drew is playing PG and Kyle is playing the 4.

I have no doubts that Kyle just fell in love with LA and the lifestyle out there. Just knowing that as soon as he finished school as a senior, him and his family packed up and moved from NJ to LA.

The adidas connection with Shabazz Muhammad and his family doesn't pass the sniff test either.
 
 http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/19865011/critical-coaches-which-player-had-the-dirtiest-recruitment

On Kyle Anderson: “A kid doesn't go across the country to a school that doesn't fit his style of play – and turn down some of the top East coast schools – without it being it unfair. It doesn't make sense from a basketball standpoint.”
 I guess "Vinny Chase" just had to check out the Entourage set - he he he - yeah, right...
 

Yeah, aspiring NBA PG picks the ONLY school with 9 pgs in the NBA, and the only coach that's sent 9 pgs to the NBA in the previous 11 seasons...

Yeah - HUGE mystery....no sense to it at all...
 

Kyle Sr had said that he only wanted to deal with schools that would let Kyle Jr play PG but we've heard alreadyw that Larry Drew is playing PG and Kyle is playing the 4.

I have no doubts that Kyle just fell in love with LA and the lifestyle out there. Just knowing that as soon as he finished school as a senior, him and his family packed up and moved from NJ to LA.

The adidas connection with Shabazz Muhammad and his family doesn't pass the sniff test either.
 

Maybe I'm being naive, but I think Kyle's not wanting to play Seton Hall -- their fans were all over him -- and the pressure of knowing that he'd be cast in the role of a "traitor" if he opted for St. John's also played into his decision to just leave the East Coast behind.
 
 Articles like these exemplify exactly what is wrong with journalism today. So just because it "doesn't make sense from a basketball standpoint" there was foul play in Kyle's recruitment? That is an extremely serious accusation that this bonehead writer is throwing out there and he has absolutely nothing to back it up. I guess in some other cases there have been events which raised eyebrows for fans and media alike but come on... This article is absolute garbage. I'd rather listen to Lester Freeman and "follow the money" rather than waste my time reading about what some bum has to say in throwing out absurd accusations with nothing but speculatory nonsense to back it up.
 
 It's coaches saying it; not the writer.
 

Well that makes it fact; we all know coaches would never lie.
 

Lol. Asking a bunch of anonymous coaches who is the most crooked. All these guys have agenda, anonymous or not. Any bets that many of those coaches polled were just as crooked athe heir counterparts and recruits that they outed in their anonymous testimonies? I also believe quite a few are likely disgruntled coaches that failed to land some of these more highly recruited kids.

Fwiw, while there were a few SJU recruits on the list, Lavin was NOT named in the poll of the biggest cheaters by his peers. This poll is a bunch of garbage IMO. 
 
 Articles like these exemplify exactly what is wrong with journalism today. So just because it "doesn't make sense from a basketball standpoint" there was foul play in Kyle's recruitment? That is an extremely serious accusation that this bonehead writer is throwing out there and he has absolutely nothing to back it up. I guess in some other cases there have been events which raised eyebrows for fans and media alike but come on... This article is absolute garbage. I'd rather listen to Lester Freeman and "follow the money" rather than waste my time reading about what some bum has to say in throwing out absurd accusations with nothing but speculatory nonsense to back it up.
 

I also thought this piece was irresponsible and classless. I wasn't particularly fond of these kids names being attached to such accusations. There is probably some truth to some of 'em, but overall I thought it was a poor move to write this piece.
 
 It's coaches saying it; not the writer.
 

I know you are in the industry but the reporter is asking them the questions and they are answering. By asking them he is stirring the pot. Directing the dogs where to attack. Reckless journalism IMO.
 
 It's coaches saying it; not the writer.
 

I know you are in the industry but the reporter is asking them the questions and they are answering. By asking them he is stirring the pot. Directing the dogs where to attack. Reckless journalism IMO.
 

Recruiting is a sewer. All sorts of stuff goes on. There is little doubt that stuff went on with some of the players listed in the article, and it's likely that something went on with most of them. It isn't exactly a new phenomenon.

So nobody should write about it? And in writing about it nobody should ask coaches - who may have been recruiting some of these players and lost out because somebody bent the rules - where to look and who to write about?

Also, the article is one of a series of coaches polls that this writer has been doing. Previous polls asked which coaches were the dirtiest, etc. Oddly enough, many of the players on this list just happen to have gone to schools where they play for the very same coaches who in previous polls were felt to be the dirtiest, took best (legal) advantage of the rules, etc..

But hey, if you think Calipari is a straight arrow who plays and has always played on the up and up and would never, ever, bend break or skirt the rules, you're entitled to your opinion. Schools that took the penalty for what he did after he left while he walked off for another job scot free might disagree with you.
 
 http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/19865011/critical-coaches-which-player-had-the-dirtiest-recruitment

On Kyle Anderson: “A kid doesn't go across the country to a school that doesn't fit his style of play – and turn down some of the top East coast schools – without it being it unfair. It doesn't make sense from a basketball standpoint.”
 I guess "Vinny Chase" just had to check out the Entourage set - he he he - yeah, right...
 

Yeah, aspiring NBA PG picks the ONLY school with 9 pgs in the NBA, and the only coach that's sent 9 pgs to the NBA in the previous 11 seasons...

Yeah - HUGE mystery....no sense to it at all...
 



Kyle Sr had said that he only wanted to deal with schools that would let Kyle Jr play PG but we've heard alreadyw that Larry Drew is playing PG and Kyle is playing the 4.

I have no doubts that Kyle just fell in love with LA and the lifestyle out there. Just knowing that as soon as he finished school as a senior, him and his family packed up and moved from NJ to LA.

The adidas connection with Shabazz Muhammad and his family doesn't pass the sniff test either.
 

Maybe I'm being naive, but I think Kyle's not wanting to play Seton Hall -- their fans were all over him -- and the pressure of knowing that he'd be cast in the role of a "traitor" if he opted for St. John's also played into his decision to just leave the East Coast behind.
 

Him and his entire family though? Relocating across the country?
 
 It's coaches saying it; not the writer.
 

I know you are in the industry but the reporter is asking them the questions and they are answering. By asking them he is stirring the pot. Directing the dogs where to attack. Reckless journalism IMO.
 

Recruiting is a sewer. All sorts of stuff goes on. There is little doubt that stuff went on with some of the players listed in the article, and it's likely that something went on with most of them. It isn't exactly a new phenomenon.

So nobody should write about it? And in writing about it nobody should ask coaches - who may have been recruiting some of these players and lost out because somebody bent the rules - where to look and who to write about?

Also, the article is one of a series of coaches polls that this writer has been doing. Previous polls asked which coaches were the dirtiest, etc. Oddly enough, many of the players on this list just happen to have gone to schools where they play for the very same coaches who in previous polls were felt to be the dirtiest, took best (legal) advantage of the rules, etc..

But hey, if you think Calipari is a straight arrow who plays and has always played on the up and up and would never, ever, bend break or skirt the rules, you're entitled to your opinion. Schools that took the penalty for what he did after he left while he walked off for another job scot free might disagree with you.
 

I'm happy this post brought you out of hibernation. I know you despise recruiting. And yes its a sewer. The fact of the matter is there are lot of other players and schools that skirt the rules than mentioned on that 'list'. Investigative (and I use that term loosely) journalism like this bothers me. Its pretty much using their position as a employee of a legit news site/service and placing anonymous phone calls to the NCAA telling them where to sniff. Message board chatter is one thing. CBS Sports 'articles' are another IMO.

The coaches asked might have lost out to these kids but lets not pretend like they themselves didn't try whatever it took. I'm not nor will I ever say Calipari is clean. The evidence shows that he was caught before. Once a dog always a dog.

CBS has done a great job stirring the pot and getting page views and clicks with these dog days of summer 'polls' and 'lists'. But I cringe to think of what will happen if one of these players is penalized or coaches penalized for this as the jump off to the Indy watchdogs.

*I said dogs way too many times in this post
 
CBS has done a great job stirring the pot and getting page views and clicks with these dog days of summer 'polls' and 'lists'. But I cringe to think of what will happen if one of these players is penalized or coaches penalized for this as the jump off to the Indy watchdogs.
 

I told MCN that CBS's last couple of polls could open up Pandora's box.
 
 It's coaches saying it; not the writer.
 

I know you are in the industry but the reporter is asking them the questions and they are answering. By asking them he is stirring the pot. Directing the dogs where to attack. Reckless journalism IMO.
 

Recruiting is a sewer. All sorts of stuff goes on. There is little doubt that stuff went on with some of the players listed in the article, and it's likely that something went on with most of them. It isn't exactly a new phenomenon.

So nobody should write about it? And in writing about it nobody should ask coaches - who may have been recruiting some of these players and lost out because somebody bent the rules - where to look and who to write about?

Also, the article is one of a series of coaches polls that this writer has been doing. Previous polls asked which coaches were the dirtiest, etc. Oddly enough, many of the players on this list just happen to have gone to schools where they play for the very same coaches who in previous polls were felt to be the dirtiest, took best (legal) advantage of the rules, etc..

But hey, if you think Calipari is a straight arrow who plays and has always played on the up and up and would never, ever, bend break or skirt the rules, you're entitled to your opinion. Schools that took the penalty for what he did after he left while he walked off for another job scot free might disagree with you.
 

I'm happy this post brought you out of hibernation. I know you despise recruiting. And yes its a sewer. The fact of the matter is there are lot of other players and schools that skirt the rules than mentioned on that 'list'. Investigative (and I use that term loosely) journalism like this bothers me. Its pretty much using their position as a employee of a legit news site/service and placing anonymous phone calls to the NCAA telling them where to sniff. Message board chatter is one thing. CBS Sports 'articles' are another IMO.

The coaches asked might have lost out to these kids but lets not pretend like they themselves didn't try whatever it took. I'm not nor will I ever say Calipari is clean. The evidence shows that he was caught before. Once a dog always a dog.

CBS has done a great job stirring the pot and getting page views and clicks with these dog days of summer 'polls' and 'lists'. But I cringe to think of what will happen if one of these players is penalized or coaches penalized for this as the jump off to the Indy watchdogs.

*I said dogs way too many times in this post
 

I couldn't agree more. An article based solely on anonymous coaches and speculation is a disgusting excuse for journalism. These people's jobs depending on being credible. I can't see how CBS sports would emply a guy who writes an article like this basically connecting Ben Howland to a major violation just because it doesn't add up in the reporter's own mind.
 
I can't see how CBS sports would emply a guy who writes an article like this basically connecting Ben Howland to a major violation just because it doesn't add up in the reporter's own mind.
 

You might want to use a different example. . .
 
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