beast of the east
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He could just be another of Lori Loughlin's kids trying to get into sju thru the back door
Beast of the East" post=410854 said:Monte, Ralph Dalton was working ft in the post office where John Thompson first met him and asked if he ever played basketball.
Very Lana Turneresque lol
Beast of the East" post=410854 said:Monte, Ralph Dalton was working ft in the post office where John Thompson first met him and asked if he ever played basketball.
Dalton was actually highly recruited in the Class of '80. John Thompson convinced him to attend prep school, which he did, and he came in with Ewing, Billy Martin, and Anthony Jones (who later transferred to UNLV) for the #1 rated class of '81.
Dalton received an extra year (his last year was the '85-'86 season) as he had an injry during his freshman season.
I believe you're referring to Ronnie Highsmith, who was stationed at Ft. Lee, VA in the Army when Craig Esherick came to visit.
Beast of the East" post=410859 said:dont let a factually highly erroneous assertion change the point. You can find guys who contribute anywhere. If you did that all from memory that's pretty impressive.
Dalton has had a great career on Wall Street. He had those special shoes what he played, correct?
Agreed that you can find anyone anywhere, but it was a lot different when Dalton played. In this day and age, with so much info readily available to everyone, it's a lot harder for coaches to find hidden gems.
Class of 72" post=410858 said:26 pages of nothing on a kid we know nothing about so I am just thankful for a 6'10 kid who committed to a better program before SJ and who brings much needed depth to the front court.
And you don't find it the least bit odd that there's little to no info on this kid? The fact that he committed to, and then was let go from, TT, seems to be the one thing everyone is hanging their hats on. Don't you think we should first let the kid suit up for us, then see if he can play at this level, before we proclaim him to be someone who will add depth to our front court? We don't need another "body".
I agree with that, but there are always kids that get overlooked where someone with a good eye for talent sees something. JC was that for us at a different level for sure.Monte" post=410861 said:Beast of the East" post=410859 said:dont let a factually highly erroneous assertion change the point. You can find guys who contribute anywhere. If you did that all from memory that's pretty impressive.
Dalton has had a great career on Wall Street. He had those special shoes what he played, correct?
Agreed that you can find anyone anywhere, but it was a lot different when Dalton played. In this day and age, with so much info readily available to everyone, it's a lot harder for coaches to find hidden gems.
Beast of the East" post=410863 said:I agree with that, but there are always kids that get overlooked where someone with a good eye for talent sees something. JC was that for us at a different level for sure.Monte" post=410861 said:Beast of the East" post=410859 said:dont let a factually highly erroneous assertion change the point. You can find guys who contribute anywhere. If you did that all from memory that's pretty impressive.
Dalton has had a great career on Wall Street. He had those special shoes what he played, correct?
Agreed that you can find anyone anywhere, but it was a lot different when Dalton played. In this day and age, with so much info readily available to everyone, it's a lot harder for coaches to find hidden gems.
I had this conversation once with Cluess, and asked him how he "recruited" so many foreign players, but at St Marys and in college. He is a guy I like a lot because he is (sometimes brutally) honest and direct. He said, "I don't recruit them at all. I get call from coaches all over the place asking me to think about taking a kid.."
A little bit off topic and your point, but maybe this guy can bring something to the table that we really need. Maybe just 5 fouls, but maybe some interior muscle, or rebounding, etc.
But JC was a known entity coming out of Louglin, it's just that everyone underestimated his ability. He was a great pick up, no doubt, but sometimes it's better to be lucky (with recruiting) then good. Maybe this kid can give us some positive things, but I can't imagine it's going to be more than Toro/Roberts can give us, and those kids are already part of the team. Guess time will tell.
Beast of the East" post=410859 said:dont let a factually highly erroneous assertion change the point. You can find guys who contribute anywhere. If you did that all from memory that's pretty impressive.
Dalton has had a great career on Wall Street. He had those special shoes what he played, correct?
Yeah, I pretty much did it through memory. My oldest brother and several friends were/are Hoya fans, and I recall hearing stories whilst watching games.
That's correct..... Dalton did have to wear special shoes.
OhioFan" post=410886 said:WHY CAN'T YOU GUYS STAY ON TOPIC?
Dalton working at a post office.
Craig Esherick
etc
etc
etc
all that without a mention of lobster rolls btw
It was on topic. It was referring to the fact that there are some guys you can find anywhere. Dink, who is an enclycopedia of basketball correted the story to be Ronnie Highsmith TV announcers always repeated the story of Highsmith working in a post office.OhioFan" post=410886 said:WHY CAN'T YOU GUYS STAY ON TOPIC?
Dalton working at a post office.
Craig Esherick
etc
etc
etc
Monte" post=410864 said:Beast of the East" post=410863 said:I agree with that, but there are always kids that get overlooked where someone with a good eye for talent sees something. JC was that for us at a different level for sure.Monte" post=410861 said:Beast of the East" post=410859 said:dont let a factually highly erroneous assertion change the point. You can find guys who contribute anywhere. If you did that all from memory that's pretty impressive.
Dalton has had a great career on Wall Street. He had those special shoes what he played, correct?
Agreed that you can find anyone anywhere, but it was a lot different when Dalton played. In this day and age, with so much info readily available to everyone, it's a lot harder for coaches to find hidden gems.
I had this conversation once with Cluess, and asked him how he "recruited" so many foreign players, but at St Marys and in college. He is a guy I like a lot because he is (sometimes brutally) honest and direct. He said, "I don't recruit them at all. I get call from coaches all over the place asking me to think about taking a kid.."
A little bit off topic and your point, but maybe this guy can bring something to the table that we really need. Maybe just 5 fouls, but maybe some interior muscle, or rebounding, etc.
But JC was a known entity coming out of Louglin, it's just that everyone underestimated his ability. He was a great pick up, no doubt, but sometimes it's better to be lucky (with recruiting) then good. Maybe this kid can give us some positive things, but I can't imagine it's going to be more than Toro/Roberts can give us, and those kids are already part of the team. Guess time will tell.
M - thanks on Cluess and yep time will tell
Nice to see a positive, hopeful post - the coach and staff are doing the best they can, are experienced recruiters, want to win AND ARE IN PROCESS of developing recruiting lines - we have seen here some posts "why are we not after this kid" along with "why are we wasting time with this kid"...hmmmn let's see who we should trust in re recruiting judgment???
The very best of holidays to every single one of we St. Johns' fans - even those I do not gree with
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Oops not sure if I am off or on topic - my appologies if I screwed up Ohio Fan
I just popped in to this thread to see what it was about and it makes no damn sense at all. Probably made sense where it originally was, though.mjmaherjr" post=410899 said:Can we have a topic called Dalton Vaccine and merge the 2 ? That's gonna confuse so many people it will be great weekend reading
L J S A" post=410902 said:I just popped in to this thread to see what it was about and it makes no damn sense at all. Probably made sense where it originally was, though.mjmaherjr" post=410899 said:Can we have a topic called Dalton Vaccine and merge the 2 ? That's gonna confuse so many people it will be great weekend reading
pretty much. But look at the bright side. If you ever wanted to talk about Andy Dalton or music and The Eagles song " Doolin Daltons " here is the thread to do it
I've been dying to talk about Darren Dalton from the Outsiders and Red Dawn, and now I'm finally able to.mjmaherjr" post=410903 said:L J S A" post=410902 said:I just popped in to this thread to see what it was about and it makes no damn sense at all. Probably made sense where it originally was, though.mjmaherjr" post=410899 said:Can we have a topic called Dalton Vaccine and merge the 2 ? That's gonna confuse so many people it will be great weekend reading
pretty much. But look at the bright side. If you ever wanted to talk about Andy Dalton or music and The Eagles song " Doolin Daltons " here is the thread to do it