Craziest Stat Since I've Been Following St. John's
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As a team we are terrible on the offensive glass--which is amazing considering how we all thought this team would play when it was assembled three years ago. I would say Sampson is at the very least above average on the offensive glass--as is Obekpa. Jordan does get quite a few of his own misses, but where does that leave Dom? He missed a ton of shots. Jordan hustles to anything near him off the glass or not.
Really agree on Obekpa. He doesn't always come down with the board himself, and therefore the stats don't always reflect it, but he is very active on the offensive glass. Tipping missed shots, disrupting what would otherwise be a clean defensive rebound so the play is still alive, etc. Also one of our better finishers when he actually gets the offensive board.
Jordan is ferocious going after loose balls generally, whether it's coming off the backboard, rolling on the floor or whatever. We're starting to get a glimpse of how special he can be, has the skills + the drive.
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500 offensive rebounds - SIX per game - is just a sick number for anyone. They didn't keep those stats then, but with Chamberlain averaging something like 23 rebounds per game for his career, you wonder how many were offensive rebounds.
I'm glad someone else is seeing these things. I think our offense is better with Obekpa in than Sanchez--indirectly at least. If you aren't going to be able to shoot the ball, you better go after it. I wish we played like Wichita State...those guys are tough and they go after everything.
westchesterjoe
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A LOT! Wilt was able to rebound many of his missed foul shoots, which were countless and convert them to dunks. :cheer:
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Do you know who would routinely beat Jerry West for cash wagers in Lakers shooting contests - Wilt Chamberlain. It was all mental.
It is kind of funny how many on this board take an extremely small sample of a players plays and then say that is what the player is. Almost every player who gets any consistent court time has shown flashes of this ability or that skill. Unfortunately, none of them have shown any of those skills to a level of consistency that can be depended on. Blame it on Lavin and staff, blame it on the players but there is not a player on this roster that you can "pencil in" for anything. it is why we remain an enigma, a talented team that loses, that beats itself, however you want to phrase it.
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Our fans are inconsistent as well.
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Despite being 2-6 in conference we are just -22 in points overall. We your throw out the GTown loss, we've lost 5 conference games by 23 points total.
thats not an obscure stat either. Aggessive play = offensive and efensive rebounds which eguals second chance points. Huge part of the game. One of the things that frustrates me as a fan is NOT when they hoist up a 3 pointer, but they never follow the shot which more than likely ends up in the same spot. Overall im still optimistic, i know i know, but i feel that second go around against all these teams can be payback. Go Johnnies!!
jumbo_peanuts
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You think that Dom is bad.....just look at Amir Garrett's numbers for us this year!!! In our 21 games this season, he has a TOTAL, yes total, of 0 pts, 0 rebounds, and 0 assists!!!! The only bright side is that he does have 0 turnovers. And this kid was a top 100 recruit! Lavin can get all the top recruits he wants, but he certainly doesn't know what to do with them.
westchesterjoe
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Truthfully, I think even the most ardent DOM admirer might agree he has not lived up to his rep well into his 3rd season. He's not alone though.
westchesterjoe
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He asks them to transfer?
No, our fans are as consistent as any teams. I have always been and will alwaus be an SJU fan, but I react to what we see, not what we HOPE will happen in the future. I don't spend days on end studying stats to justify and minimize the fact that we are not even remotely playing up to our potential. I give credit when it is due, like Butler and coming back from 18 down but the fact remains we fell behind by 18 and I am not going to ignore that. We then took the court for one defensive stop and regardless of whether McDermott scored or not, because he is a great player, we obviously did not execute any kind of reasonable defense against him. Make all the excuses and analysis you want but this team (coaches and players) consistently come up short in big moments. Watch sports movies if you want everything to turn out great; I am only reacting to what I am seeing. The most important point, I wouldn't even look that good in a cheerleader's outfit.