[quote="Paul Massell" post=396675]This thing is still a total mystery and it is unfortunate that it has become a central theme in partisan politics. One of my family members works in a hospital in AZ. She told me that in July the morgue was overflowing. It was so bad that they were storing the bodies in patient rooms separated only by a curtain from living patients. They had transports coming 4 or 5 times a day to move bodies and it wasn't enough. To make matters worse, some doctors were refusing to go into rooms with covid patients and some were refusing to even go onto a floor that had any covid patients. At the time I remembered she was really scared by what she was seeing every day.
Then everything dramatically changed. The death rate plummeted a few weeks ago, with no explanation. For weeks now it has been minimal. At the same time this began, the hospital finally started getting relief workers. So it was too late for them to actually be helpful and provide relief to the staff, but obviously a great thing that people stopped dying. But they were paying all of their doctors and nurses hazard pay but now they had these traveling nurses and doctors coming in but not needed. Some of the staff nurses started quitting because they had too many nurses and their hours were getting cut, people were getting sent home during shifts because there was no work to do, and some other "territory" issue between the nurses and traveling nurses.
I don't know what all this means, but I find it very strange that things can change SO dramatically almost instantly.[/quote]
Without getting too complex about it, look at NYC as an example. This thing moves fast and there is absolutely herd immunity to this as it spreads . NYC has not spiked since then despite opening and had continually dropped for months. I’ve been saying this for a long time. There is nothing being spoken of to explain the drop until recently. New article in Cell journal is showing significant long-term T-cell immunity time Covid. The asymptomatic spread Of this thing is likely much further reaching than being given credit for. At this point nyc has likely been reached some sort of herd immunity because of the density of population much like northern Italy. This thing will continue to spread but as it does. That’s good news for a lot of reasons, both for those who have had it, asymptomatoc spread as well as for the vaccine. I think you’ll see this thing rip through areas like it has through nyc then drop off. There isn’t anything that is gonna stop it in the USA short of staying inside until there’s a vaccine. If you look at rates I’d also caution looking at numbers as asymptomatic spread goes untreated and would likely halve the morbidity and mortality rates. We are only testing the symptomatic for the most part.
