Coburn

[mm52]

In seeing how Wheeler and, to some extent, Soriano have started to play better, I thought to myself how much better the team is playing--more speed, effort, etc--than in the cupcake games.  I wish we had played one or two less cupcake games to give us a better tuneup before BE play.  Oh well.

 

[monte]

Now, what's up with Nyiwe? /media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png

 

We will sell no wine before its time.  He clearly isn't ready yet, and on that on you may be correct that he will never be. But I am not ready to close the book on him just yet.

So you're not ready to close the book on Nyiwe, and I'm not ready to open the book(mob pun intended) for Wheeler. Seems reasonable. 

 

[paultzman]

Monte; “So you're not ready to close the book on Nyiwe, and I'm not ready to open the book(mob pun intended) for Wheeler. Seems reasonable.”

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[SJU85]

I remember watching some of the games early in the season thinking Coburn was going to be a 6th man or a third scoring option for this team. Someone with decent length and can knock down the 3 ball with consistency. However, he has gotten zero playing time. Does anyone know why? 

He was pretty bad when he played.  But I agree.  Got to give him some minute and see if he can improve.  Mathis provides zero shooting and you cant play posh, mathis and wusu at the same time anymore.  The def does not have to respect any of these guys shooting.  Its killing us.

Why is Stef Smith in the dog house?



 

Routinely gets lost on defense. Unfortunately, he is one of the few potential outside threats so we need him

And that's my main problem with Anderson.  He doesn't seem to care about the offensive side of the ball.  He also seems love guys who practice hard, which I'm sure Wusu and Mathis do.  

That's great, but that should also only get you so far.  Wusu especially reminds me of Andre Stanley, if you remember him, in the fact that the coaching staff probably fell a bit too in love with guy's practice habits, and wanted to send a message to guys on the team, who maybe didn't work as hard.  The problem is, either the message was not received, or it was overemphasized, because Stanley played too much, and it felt like we were going 4 on 5 offensively.  Same with Wusu, IMO.


 

Wusu reminds you of Stanley????  Wusu, for all of his mistakes and dumb fouls, still is able to make plays, has hit big shots (big three last night) and make plays for others.  Stanley was an empty uniform on the offensive end who if went unguarded for forty minutes, still couldn't score twenty points.  Nice background story on his challenges and his commitment but c'mon.

Wusu is still just a sophomore and is learning and will get better. 

 

[monte]

Monte; “So you're not ready to close the book on Nyiwe, and I'm not ready to open the book(mob pun intended) for Wheeler. Seems reasonable.”

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hahaha

 

[Delaware]

I remember watching some of the games early in the season thinking Coburn was going to be a 6th man or a third scoring option for this team. Someone with decent length and can knock down the 3 ball with consistency. However, he has gotten zero playing time. Does anyone know why? 

He was pretty bad when he played.  But I agree.  Got to give him some minute and see if he can improve.  Mathis provides zero shooting and you cant play posh, mathis and wusu at the same time anymore.  The def does not have to respect any of these guys shooting.  Its killing us.

Why is Stef Smith in the dog house?




 

Routinely gets lost on defense. Unfortunately, he is one of the few potential outside threats so we need him

And that's my main problem with Anderson.  He doesn't seem to care about the offensive side of the ball.  He also seems love guys who practice hard, which I'm sure Wusu and Mathis do.  

That's great, but that should also only get you so far.  Wusu especially reminds me of Andre Stanley, if you remember him, in the fact that the coaching staff probably fell a bit too in love with guy's practice habits, and wanted to send a message to guys on the team, who maybe didn't work as hard.  The problem is, either the message was not received, or it was overemphasized, because Stanley played too much, and it felt like we were going 4 on 5 offensively.  Same with Wusu, IMO.



 

Wusu reminds you of Stanley????  Wusu, for all of his mistakes and dumb fouls, still is able to make plays, has hit big shots (big three last night) and make plays for others.  Stanley was an empty uniform on the offensive end who if went unguarded for forty minutes, still couldn't score twenty points.  Nice background story on his challenges and his commitment but c'mon.

Wusu is still just a sophomore and is learning and will get better. 





I sure hope so.
 

 

[Johnny4Life]

NY Post had an article today on the under performance of the transfers. Point was made that the fast pace St, John's plays is not a fit for Coburn. Max Hooper 2.0
 

Then why use a scholarship on him if you're not going to play him at all? It's not like we are playing lights out defense with current rotation. Lately we are not even attempting to pressure as much as I thought we would when coach came on board. I thought we would be running about 10 deep to allow the team to pressure and wear the opposition down. 

So if we aren't going to do this, we might as well get some scorers going. I'd love to see what a rotation of Posh, Wusu, Coburn, Champ, Wheeler and Soriano could do on the offensive end.  

 

[JohnnyFan]

Sense Coburn provides depth and insurance (in case of an injury), but not an answer for the rotation.  

 

[Johnny4Life]

Coburn finally stepped up and got a chance to show he can contribute to the team. I know I didn't mention it in my original post, however, one of the reasons I brought him Coburn was not only for his shooting ability but because I think going back to a 9/10 man rotation is best for this team's identity so they can press more often. Tonight was a good example of how that can work for this team.   

 

[SJU61982]

I remember watching some of the games early in the season thinking Coburn was going to be a 6th man or a third scoring option for this team. Someone with decent length and can knock down the 3 ball with consistency. However, he has gotten zero playing time. Does anyone know why? 

He was pretty bad when he played.  But I agree.  Got to give him some minute and see if he can improve.  Mathis provides zero shooting and you cant play posh, mathis and wusu at the same time anymore.  The def does not have to respect any of these guys shooting.  Its killing us.

Why is Stef Smith in the dog house?




 

Routinely gets lost on defense. Unfortunately, he is one of the few potential outside threats so we need him

And that's my main problem with Anderson.  He doesn't seem to care about the offensive side of the ball.  He also seems love guys who practice hard, which I'm sure Wusu and Mathis do.  

That's great, but that should also only get you so far.  Wusu especially reminds me of Andre Stanley, if you remember him, in the fact that the coaching staff probably fell a bit too in love with guy's practice habits, and wanted to send a message to guys on the team, who maybe didn't work as hard.  The problem is, either the message was not received, or it was overemphasized, because Stanley played too much, and it felt like we were going 4 on 5 offensively.  Same with Wusu, IMO.



 

Wusu reminds you of Stanley????  Wusu, for all of his mistakes and dumb fouls, still is able to make plays, has hit big shots (big three last night) and make plays for others.  Stanley was an empty uniform on the offensive end who if went unguarded for forty minutes, still couldn't score twenty points.  Nice background story on his challenges and his commitment but c'mon.

Wusu is still just a sophomore and is learning and will get better. 

I never meant that they were equals as players.  Wusu obviously has more ability.

I just meant that both were getting a lot more playing time then was good for the team, because coaches' were in love with their "efforts" in practice, when there were much better options sitting on the bench.

 

[usguard]

I think Stanley can improve and be important to the team going forward