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L J S A
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Richmond is his longtime buddy. St. Jean is his longtime buddy's kid. Mullin won't ditch either. And if the school goes over his head and ditches them things will get ugly. Options seem pretty limited if you hate the staff -- you either pray they get better, or hope Mullin resigns, since I don't see him being fired. And if he does resign, then you need to hope Matt A. hits it off with the new guy and is retained.
beast of the east
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You could be right about firing either of those, but isn't there a slot available right now without letting anyone go?
A zillion years ago, Looie brought in Al LoBalbo. YEa, he was old, and yea we made fun of his hair, and yea he could have been a friend of Looie's, BUT he was billed as a defensive specialist who I am guessing Looie ceded control in practice to him for defensive teaching and schemas.
I don't think anything could happen mid season even with a slot, but my feeling is even a Pecora would help in game coaching, won't ruffle feathers, and is generally well liked everywhere he goes.
Ray Morgan
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I'm not sure why everyone is acting as if Mullin's inability to coach is a news flash. If you weren't sure, you could have asked him. He would have told you, as he has reportedly told others. He came here to build a college program that was nearing extinction by first restoring ties to the high school programs in the tri-state area, and bringing in quality kids and talented basketball players. Recruiting class 1 the staff closed on Lovett. Class 2 added Ponds and Ahmed, Class 3 Simon and Clark. The first 3 are real talents. Let's hope Simon and Clark are the same.
I'm hoping the Delaware game was an anomaly, and serves to motivate a team that seems to lack that at the moment. As for coaching, it requires skill sets that require time and training to learn. Being a great player isn't as important a predictor of success as learning, for years, from a great head coach while serving as his assistant. Well, it didn't do much for Mahoney, so there are exceptions.
We are all depressed today following an embarrassing and demoralizing defeat. Imagine how the team feels. This game should do more for them than if they came back from 15 and eeked out a win. The problem that will remain is that the simple sets on offense, limited inside presence, and single defensive scheme makes us predictable and easy to prepare for. While Mussini adds some ball handling and outside shooting, he can't keep anyone in front of him. Once he gets beat, the defense breaks down and even a low level D-1 team finds the open man. When freud is in the game, teams go right at him. Maybe switching the defense to cover his deficiencies will help. Maybe not, as playing zone would hurt our rebounding even more. What it comes down to, when you don;t have a staff of Picassos, is to recruit more Picassos to hide the staff's deficiencies, and not vice versa.
I'm hoping the Delaware game was an anomaly, and serves to motivate a team that seems to lack that at the moment. As for coaching, it requires skill sets that require time and training to learn. Being a great player isn't as important a predictor of success as learning, for years, from a great head coach while serving as his assistant. Well, it didn't do much for Mahoney, so there are exceptions.
We are all depressed today following an embarrassing and demoralizing defeat. Imagine how the team feels. This game should do more for them than if they came back from 15 and eeked out a win. The problem that will remain is that the simple sets on offense, limited inside presence, and single defensive scheme makes us predictable and easy to prepare for. While Mussini adds some ball handling and outside shooting, he can't keep anyone in front of him. Once he gets beat, the defense breaks down and even a low level D-1 team finds the open man. When freud is in the game, teams go right at him. Maybe switching the defense to cover his deficiencies will help. Maybe not, as playing zone would hurt our rebounding even more. What it comes down to, when you don;t have a staff of Picassos, is to recruit more Picassos to hide the staff's deficiencies, and not vice versa.
beast of the east
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What I cant understand is if you think of all the years Mullin played AAU, HS, college, the Olympics and the NBA, how come is doesn't know more about coaching than us Redmen.com posters?
Have you ever wondered why it's easier to ref from the 12 row than actually having a whistle around your neck? I've done both and believe me, reffing isn't easy.
The same goes for coaching, and I've done about 8 seasons of that, some of it AAU. Also nowhere near easy as it looks. Even running a meaningful practice takes a skill, as does teaching, setting up a playbook, getting 5 kids to play as one defensively, and strategic in game coaching.
On the other hand you don't have to be an artist to know your 5 year old's crayon drawing is not a work of art.
It was a joke. Also you cant fire Mullin from SJU after 2 years, that is why I think getting good assistants to augment him is a good compromise. You need recruiting, player development, XOs, motivation, communication skills etc. .Coaches should have different strengths and compliment one another. Keep Matt.What I cant understand is if you think of all the years Mullin played AAU, HS, college, the Olympics and the NBA, how come is doesn't know more about coaching than us Redmen.com posters?
Have you ever wondered why it's easier to ref from the 12 row than actually having a whistle around your neck? I've done both and believe me, reffing isn't easy.
The same goes for coaching, and I've done about 8 seasons of that, some of it AAU. Also nowhere near easy as it looks. Even running a meaningful practice takes a skill, as does teaching, setting up a playbook, getting 5 kids to play as one defensively, and strategic in game coaching.
On the other hand you don't have to be an artist to know your 5 year old's crayon drawing is not a work of art.
If Mullin goes Matt goes. But would it matter that much, none of the players have really lived up to their hype. The bench needs a new face. St. Jean probably should be starting his coaching career like other young coaches, at an Adelphi or LIU Post type school. In over his head. Richmond useless, here for the paycheck, very obvious. One needs to go so we can get someone in who knows the bare basics of the college game, these guys have not figured out the basics. Which is scary.
Ray Morgan
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The bottom line is always the same: Get better players. The staff is not great, but great players, meaning great 2 way players, win games. We have undersized, inexperienced guards, and that's by far our strength. Our bigs can't rebound, score or defend, and our bench belongs at division 2 schools based on their early showing. That's what happens when a program has to rebuild. Judging Mullin 7 games into year 2 of the rebuild is insane. I will reserve judgment on what he did for the program by the talent he has by next year, and more so year 4. I have patience because I treated it as a given that he couldn't coach.
I knew it was a give he couldn't coach either... so why was he even hired?!? That's insanity in and of itself, that some people just refuse to grasp or acknowledge. You treat a new coach with patience because you know he cannot coach?!
That's done though. He's here. So I too "have patience." Albeit limited, and I'm not saying he needs to be gone this year. But the bench NEEDS new faces, new life, new energy, oh and a strategy. And perhaps someone willing to teach fundamentals and the basics. But besides that, yeah cool.
Our team is definitely a Basquiat. We just don't get it yet but one of these sold for $49 million so it must be good right?
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Much like a redmen.comer after an early season loss, it clearly shows the futility of man: at once trying to place the world under his submission whilst also questioning his cold, meaningless reality
Also that cow has like five pee pees.
ManhattAn1
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Mullin is tight with Pervis, will never happen.
I think success is about 60% players, 40% coaching. EG-Georgetown last year was ranked #2 in the preseason Big East poll based mainly on their 4* and 5* talent and finished 8th with no major injuries. Massive under-performance and that's on JTIII.
So yeah, we need the 4*recruits, but without Mulllin et al stepping it up as a coaching staff we are screwed. I think they will, for what it's worth.
What hype is it that you're talking about? The hype the redmen.comers place on these kids? Other than Fruedenberg, every other kid is performing more or less as I anticipated. Would have hoped for more improvement from a few kids, but lets face facts, most of these kids were 3 star kids and are being asked to carry a heavier load than they are capable of at this point. The reality of it is, with the exception of yesterday, we have won the games we clearly should have, and by large margins. It would have been nice to come away with one or two wins out of the next 4, but we came up short in all of them. There was no excuse for yesterday. We came out completely flat. Our body language was terrible. Lovett, by far our best player, looked to be disgruntled. We simply cannot win without him being all in. We can still right this ship and have a decent season. I am not throwing in the towel just yet. Hoping Chris and the staff can do what is needed to turn things around
Ray Morgan
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Yes, for the simple yet correct reason that I have respect for the profession. To think otherwise presumes that coaching requires about as much skill as Chutes and Ladders or Candyland.
we are sju
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I def wouldn't watch that porno!!
Do "pool boys" really exist outside of porn? Like is that a real job?
If it's an ugly retirement, which by all signs it is point towards that, whenever it may be (hope I'm wrong), common sense would dictate that his right hand man would step away also? Or that a legitimate administration/AD would show the similarly unsuccessful assistant staff the door as well, to bring in a new regime??