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Prior to Steve Lavin being hired at STJ you couldn't purchase STJ gear outside the tri-state area, and most Modell's didn't carry STJ hats or gear. We were nobody. Now you can purchase STJ hats and shirts in Raleigh, Durham, Lexington Ky, L.A. That is about building a brand. We had no brand after Jarvis messed the program up.
Lavin has been trying to compete against the major league programs, albeit he has lost on McCullough, Briscoe and others, but we are relevant again recruiting. Read Zachs article talking about how smart Rutgers was for pulling out of the Briscoe running. Well maybe Rutgers didn't see themselves able to compete with the big boys. Lavin thinks we are the big boys and went all in. He thinks more of the program than most of the fans, but yet we sit here again bashing him for all the problems in the world. You mentioned a top 17 guard and top 52 guard that Samir would be replacing, well who signed that top 17 guard and top 52 guard? Lavin.
The other problem is talented kids leave NYC before H.S. they come to places like NC, SC, GA to go to Christian schools, or they go to NJ.. There is no hotbed of local NYC talent anymore.. Once in awhile you have a stud in NYC but that is far and few between these days. NYC used to be a hot bed for PGs back in the day...Look around how many NBA pg's are NYC kids..
Building a national brand takes time.. Lavin had been recruiting nationally and internationally. You guys scream loud enough for long enough and Lavin may leave or be fired, and my fear is you will end up starting all over again with an inferior product running the program. You sound like the Duke fans after Coach K's second year were calling for him to be fired.

Are you actually a St, John's fan? I only ask because you referred to those of us on this board as "you", not "we". As in, "my fear is that YOU will end up starting all over again.....". I suspect not.
 
Prior to Steve Lavin being hired at STJ you couldn't purchase STJ gear outside the tri-state area, and most Modell's didn't carry STJ hats or gear. We were nobody. Now you can purchase STJ hats and shirts in Raleigh, Durham, Lexington Ky, L.A. That is about building a brand. We had no brand after Jarvis messed the program up.
Lavin has been trying to compete against the major league programs, albeit he has lost on McCullough, Briscoe and others, but we are relevant again recruiting. Read Zachs article talking about how smart Rutgers was for pulling out of the Briscoe running. Well maybe Rutgers didn't see themselves able to compete with the big boys. Lavin thinks we are the big boys and went all in. He thinks more of the program than most of the fans, but yet we sit here again bashing him for all the problems in the world. You mentioned a top 17 guard and top 52 guard that Samir would be replacing, well who signed that top 17 guard and top 52 guard? Lavin.
The other problem is talented kids leave NYC before H.S. they come to places like NC, SC, GA to go to Christian schools, or they go to NJ.. There is no hotbed of local NYC talent anymore.. Once in awhile you have a stud in NYC but that is far and few between these days. NYC used to be a hot bed for PGs back in the day...Look around how many NBA pg's are NYC kids..
Building a national brand takes time.. Lavin had been recruiting nationally and internationally. You guys scream loud enough for long enough and Lavin may leave or be fired, and my fear is you will end up starting all over again with an inferior product running the program. You sound like the Duke fans after Coach K's second year were calling for him to be fired.

Tom I could care less about building a national brand , and that is certainly not our coaches job to ensure SJU gear is sold around the country. The job of the basketball coach is to win, no more no less. It doesn't matter whether he recruits nationally , internationally or only in barren NYC , what matters is that he wins. I don't care if our roster is full of local talent, national talent , international talent , jucos or any combination thereof. I care that we win and play well. Failure on either count will lead to empty seats. A real problem we have had of late. I don't care how and where he recruits as long as he recruits well enough for his system, whatever it may be, to make us a consistent winner going to the big dance more often than not.
Let's stick to the topic of the promising recruiting class of 2014 which lost its best recruit to academic fraud that many other coaches refused to ignore, Adonis being Ineligible and a European diamond in the rough who can't get off the bench despite a lack of bodies. In other words he will probably be a bust or non-contributor. Of course there are two promising walk-ons. For 2015 we have number 196 in the class.
For me there is real reason for concern going forward.
 
Yes I am a lifelong Johnny fan and alumni, don't live in NYC anymore but watch all the games and donate to the program, we have alumni club in Cary, NC
 
Yes I am a lifelong Johnny fan and alumni, don't live in NYC anymore but watch all the games and donate to the program, we have alumni club in Cary, NC

And what stores in NC have SJU items exactly?
 
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Yes I am a lifelong Johnny fan and alumni, don't live in NYC anymore but watch all the games and donate to the program, we have alumni club in Cary, NC

And what stores in NC have SJU items exactly?

SJU had great stuff with Nike and as usual, Team inept screwed up a good thing and went to under armor which has been underwhelming to say the least as our sponsor SJU apparell.

Also why are we wearing blue uniforms at home? Are we supposed to be the Giants? Classic red and white is all we need. Stop this nonsense already. And get back to Nike asap.
 
Yes I am a lifelong Johnny fan and alumni, don't live in NYC anymore but watch all the games and donate to the program, we have alumni club in Cary, NC

And what stores in NC have SJU items exactly?
. Come on down Moose, couple of the Athletes foot in raleigh has it, couple of Dicks have hats, lids has hats. Cary has a sports store that has StJ jackets and shirts. The only place to get anything pre Lavin was outside Duke before the STJ game. Last year round one NCAA tourney at PNC arena they had hats and t shirts for STJ, wore mine during the Duke loss, which by the way had less than 1000 duke fans. Duke fans either don't go to round 1 or don't drive 10 minutes outside durham
 
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