Brad Stevens Leaves for the NBA

Dan Wetzel‏@DanWetzel47m
Sophisticated X and O and little interest in recruiting muck, Brad Stevens was natural for NBA jump. Celtics smart to hire him. Class guy
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Coaching NBA egos is a lot different than college kids - Ask Rick Pitino.
 
Taking Butler was simply a bad idea from the start. It was obvious that Stevens was too big for that program and would not be there for long.

Umass or Dayton would have been better options. Now the BE has one more worthless mid-major whose name nobody will know 5 yrs from now.
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UMass has FBS football so they're out of the equation. I still think Butler is a better fit than Dayton. Bigger city, historical arena, great recent history. They will be just fine.
 
Dan Wetzel‏@DanWetzel47m
Sophisticated X and O and little interest in recruiting muck, Brad Stevens was natural for NBA jump. Celtics smart to hire him. Class guy
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Can't agree with that. Coaching impressionable college kids is unlike coaching spoiled millionaires who are used to getting their way. Personally, I think Stevens is nuts to leave the security of Butler but that's for him to find out. And yes, it is a hit to a conference when the best coach in the conference ( no other coach has taken their team to such heights) and the face of a program bolts. As someone mentioned above, Butler now comes under the heading of just another mediocre mid major, and IU will once again rule their geographic territory. In short, this realy does $UCK for the Big East.
 
Dan Wetzel‏@DanWetzel47m
Sophisticated X and O and little interest in recruiting muck, Brad Stevens was natural for NBA jump. Celtics smart to hire him. Class guy
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Can't agree with that. Coaching impressionable college kids is unlike coaching spoiled millionaires who are used to getting their way. Personally, I think Stevens is nuts to leave the security of Butler but that's for him to find out. And yes, it is a hit to a conference when the best coach in the conference ( no other coach has taken their team to such heights) and the face of a program bolts. As someone mentioned above, Butler now comes under the heading of just another mediocre mid major, and IU will once again rule their geographic territory. In short, this realy does $UCK for the Big East.
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You say this as if Butler was ever a threat to IU's dominance in that region.

The overreaction that this is getting is puzzling.

"Just another mediocre mid major" that'll still probably upset one of the top Big East teams this year.

Butler, even without Stevens, is still better than DePaul and Seton Hall. They scheme well and execute well.

Yes, they lose a big draw but the team will still be competitive.
 
Butler is still a school that everyone witnessed go to back to back NATIONAL championships and be consistently ranked over the past 5 years or so. They are great academically and Hinkle Fieldhouse has been featured nationally. It's a great basketball program. Sure coaches can help coach up kids, but I think Butler will still get 4 star recruits...they are now a Big East school that has been very relevant lately. I'm much more concerned about Creighton after Gibbs/McDermott are gone than Butler with no Stevens. Butler is a more prestigious program that can attract more talent than Creighton IMO.

It is odd timing though. Just when Butler finally gets their dividends paid off by making noise the past 5 years by joining a major conference, he bails. Obviously it all comes down to dollars and cents with these guys, but it's like building a Ferrari then right when it's ready to race, you leave it idle in the garage then sell it.
 
it's like building a Ferrari then right when it's ready to race, you leave it idle in the garage then sell it.
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Your analogies are like using a typewriter to write a sentence and then just before you read it you shoot yourself in the head and the spark sets the house on fire and when you call the fire department your cellphone doesn't have a signal because batteries haven't been invented yet.
 
it's like building a Ferrari then right when it's ready to race, you leave it idle in the garage then sell it.
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Your analogies are like using a typewriter to write a sentence and then just before you read it you shoot yourself in the head and the spark sets the house on fire and when you call the fire department your cellphone doesn't have a signal because batteries haven't been invented yet.
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Quite the stretch there...the point is, Stevens built that program into an elite one and now he won't even see it compete with elite company. I always crack up when I try to picture what you look like by the way. Some 60 yr old who seeks redemption from schoolyard bullies in elementary school perhaps?
 
it's like building a Ferrari then right when it's ready to race, you leave it idle in the garage then sell it.
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Your analogies are like using a typewriter to write a sentence and then just before you read it you shoot yourself in the head and the spark sets the house on fire and when you call the fire department your cellphone doesn't have a signal because batteries haven't been invented yet.
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Quite the stretch there...the point is, Stevens built that program into an elite one and now he won't even see it compete with elite company. I always crack up when I try to picture what you look like by the way. Some 60 yr old who seeks redemption from schoolyard bullies in elementary school perhaps?
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Stevens is the elite company. Noone in our conference has even sniffed 2 championship game appearances over his tenure as coach.
 
it's like building a Ferrari then right when it's ready to race, you leave it idle in the garage then sell it.
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Your analogies are like using a typewriter to write a sentence and then just before you read it you shoot yourself in the head and the spark sets the house on fire and when you call the fire department your cellphone doesn't have a signal because batteries haven't been invented yet.
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Quite the stretch there...the point is, Stevens built that program into an elite one and now he won't even see it compete with elite company. I always crack up when I try to picture what you look like by the way. Some 60 yr old who seeks redemption from schoolyard bullies in elementary school perhaps?
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Stevens is the elite company. Noone in our conference has even sniffed 2 championship game appearances over his tenure as coach.
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Sounds like the argument that Mark Sanchez was solely responsible for leading his team to back to back AFC champ games. We all know that wasn't true though. College basketball is not a 1 man game. If St. John's all of a sudden had Boeheim, would it really turn everything around for us and make us a constant top 10 team? I really don't think so. Some people succeed in roles in 1 place and fail in another. Don't get me wrong, coaches can have influence, but I think it gets overstated in every sport. Belichek (or however you spell it) was on the Jets, then he goes to the Pats and they win 3 rings. Mike D'Antoni was great for the Suns, then came to the Knicks and got fired. I think the team and administration has a lot to do with the success, not just 1 person as the coach. Butler was in 2 sweet 16's recently in the 2000's before Stevens was even coach. College basketball has room for more than 1 good coach. Butler will be fine.
 
it's like building a Ferrari then right when it's ready to race, you leave it idle in the garage then sell it.
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Your analogies are like using a typewriter to write a sentence and then just before you read it you shoot yourself in the head and the spark sets the house on fire and when you call the fire department your cellphone doesn't have a signal because batteries haven't been invented yet.
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Quite the stretch there...the point is, Stevens built that program into an elite one and now he won't even see it compete with elite company. I always crack up when I try to picture what you look like by the way. Some 60 yr old who seeks redemption from schoolyard bullies in elementary school perhaps?
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Stevens is the elite company. Noone in our conference has even sniffed 2 championship game appearances over his tenure as coach.
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Sounds like the argument that Mark Sanchez was solely responsible for leading his team to back to back AFC champ games. We all know that wasn't true though. College basketball is not a 1 man game. If St. John's all of a sudden had Boeheim, would it really turn everything around for us and make us a constant top 10 team? I really don't think so. Some people succeed in roles in 1 place and fail in another. Don't get me wrong, coaches can have influence, but I think it gets overstated in every sport. Belichek (or however you spell it) was on the Jets, then he goes to the Pats and they win 3 rings. Mike D'Antoni was great for the Suns, then came to the Knicks and got fired. I think the team and administration has a lot to do with the success, not just 1 person as the coach. Butler was in 2 sweet 16's recently in the 2000's before Stevens was even coach. College basketball has room for more than 1 good coach. Butler will be fine.
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Are you arguing with yourself? You said he made them an elite program. Butler will be OK but Stevens is an elite coach and they will sorely miss him. He did the right thing, got his payday and is set for life and if he fails he can have his choice of jobs in college. My point was that Stevens has had more success than any other coach in our conference and is the only true elite coach we have. No other coach in our league can even come close to matching Stevens' success.
 
unfortunately it is too late to rescind Butler's invitation to the Bog East.
 
typical Celtic garbage. Rivers was a good coach. They trade the team, and now must rebuild and reach out to the one coach in the Big East that the league could not afford to loose. It's a stretch much like Jordan with Dunlap but not as bad. You think a coach leaving is nothing. Have you checked out St. John's since Looie left. How about UCLA from their heights. They never recovered.
Most of the posters here believe Syracuse and Duke will fall on hard times once their coaches retire. How about Carolina. It took them awhile to find the right guy.
College coaches are everything. Check Purdue and Indiana after their big time coaches left.
I feel sorry for Butler. Steven;s is going to be a tough act to follow.
 
Dan Wetzel‏@DanWetzel47m
Sophisticated X and O and little interest in recruiting muck, Brad Stevens was natural for NBA jump. Celtics smart to hire him. Class guy
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Can't agree with that. Coaching impressionable college kids is unlike coaching spoiled millionaires who are used to getting their way. Personally, I think Stevens is nuts to leave the security of Butler but that's for him to find out. And yes, it is a hit to a conference when the best coach in the conference ( no other coach has taken their team to such heights) and the face of a program bolts. As someone mentioned above, Butler now comes under the heading of just another mediocre mid major, and IU will once again rule their geographic territory. In short, this realy does $UCK for the Big East.
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You say this as if Butler was ever a threat to IU's dominance in that region.

The overreaction that this is getting is puzzling.

"Just another mediocre mid major" that'll still probably upset one of the top Big East teams this year.

Butler, even without Stevens, is still better than DePaul and Seton Hall. They scheme well and execute well.

Yes, they lose a big draw but the team will still be competitive.
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I agree with you, Alum. Who knows what will happen with Butler in the long-term.... But I think they'll be fine in the short-term.

If they make a good hire, then they'll keep on truckin'.
 
Just read he got 6 yrs 22 million
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I don't know how that matches up salary wise with other NBA coaches, but any coach the Celtics got was going to get a long-term deal. With the moves they have made, a title in 2 or 3 years is not in the cards.
 
How about we wait and see who Butler hires to replace Stevens before we go the "sky is falling" on Butler and the Big East route? Is it too late to call Bobby Knight LOL.
 
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