Billy Donovan out at OKC

He did a tremendous job in bringing Luguentz along. Not happy at all to hear this. However such is life.
 
I really like mike anderson. But id drive him to the airport myself if we could get billy donovan. Come home billy!!!!
 
Both Hurleys, Donovan, Wright, McKillop, Pitino, etc. This program has come dangerously close to would-be great hires. Unfortunately, our timing sucks.

Just missed on Wright

Mullin wanted a shot when we could've had Dan Hurley who had a UConn opening after they fired Ollie

Pitino very likely would've come here but we thought (admin thought) that we'd get killed in media...he goes to Iona and everyone instantly forgets any negatives.

Bobby Hurley flirts with us, then goes to ASU and turns them into a potential top 10 team with great recruiting and hype.

Donovan finally becomes available but after we already got CMA. May sound heartless, but I'd take Donovan over CMA 100/100 times. No one is winning here consistently with no recruiting. Donovan is Lavin recruiting level with real coaching. That's what it takes to get us back in national relevancy and competing for BET crowns on the reg.
 
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[quote="redstorm89" post=397818]Not sure if he wants to go back to coaching college[/quote]

He doesn’t. He will get his pick of NBA job. Wonder if Knicks are kicking themselves a bit right now.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=397814]Both Hurleys, Donovan, Wright, McKillop, Pitino, etc. This program has come dangerously close to would-be great hires. Unfortunately, our timing sucks.

Just missed on Wright

Mullin wanted a shot when we could've had Dan Hurley who had a UConn opening after they fired Ollie

Pitino very likely would've come here but we thought (admin thought) that we'd get killed in media...he goes to Iona and everyone instantly forgets any negatives.

Bobby Hurley flirts with us, then goes to ASU and turns them into a potential top 10 team with great recruiting and hype.

Donovan finally becomes available but after we already got CMA. May sound heartless, but I'd take Donovan over CMA 100/100 times. No one is winning here consistently with no recruiting. Donovan is Lavin recruiting level with real coaching. That's what it takes to get us back in national relevancy and competing for BET crowns on the reg.[/quote]

Hell no to both Hurley brothers (especially Bobby) and hell no to Pitino.

Regarding Donovan, this is not the job for him. He is in the latter stage of his career and will have multiple big opportunities. No reason for him to take on the SJUBB rebuild.

We have our guy. Good things are ahead.
 
My guess is his agent already has an NBA job lined up be it Chicago or Philly.
 
[quote="Moose" post=397819][quote="redstorm89" post=397818]Not sure if he wants to go back to coaching college[/quote]

He doesn’t. He will get his pick of NBA job. Wonder if Knicks are kicking themselves a bit right now.[/quote]

George Steinbrenner would fire Thibodeau to get his man now.
 
I ‘m thinking that Coach Anderson deserves and gets through to his last Contract year . It would be great fantasy to see Donavan vs Pitino in a Holiday Festival Game at MSG but , it is a fantasy .
 
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=397820][quote="Mike Zaun" post=397814]Both Hurleys, Donovan, Wright, McKillop, Pitino, etc. This program has come dangerously close to would-be great hires. Unfortunately, our timing sucks.

Just missed on Wright

Mullin wanted a shot when we could've had Dan Hurley who had a UConn opening after they fired Ollie

Pitino very likely would've come here but we thought (admin thought) that we'd get killed in media...he goes to Iona and everyone instantly forgets any negatives.

Bobby Hurley flirts with us, then goes to ASU and turns them into a potential top 10 team with great recruiting and hype.

Donovan finally becomes available but after we already got CMA. May sound heartless, but I'd take Donovan over CMA 100/100 times. No one is winning here consistently with no recruiting. Donovan is Lavin recruiting level with real coaching. That's what it takes to get us back in national relevancy and competing for BET crowns on the reg.[/quote]

Hell no to both Hurley brothers (especially Bobby) and hell no to Pitino.

Regarding Donovan, this is not the job for him. He is in the latter stage of his career and will have multiple big opportunities. No reason for him to take on the SJUBB rebuild.

We have our guy. Good things are ahead.[/quote]

Hurley bros are running circles around us recruiting. Our plan is basically like an NFL team relying on 6th round picks to all become Tom Brady at their position. Good luck with that. We will need it...and a lot.
 
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Why not lure Pat Riley back on the sidelines while we’re at it? I’m sure that he would love the St. John’s challenge.
Lots of delusional fans here regarding the St John’s job. We are a school with perpetual money issues, antiquated facilities, a student body that is at best, marginally engaged, that hasn’t tasted success in years.
In short, it’s nothing like an NBA opportunity, or a big state college job. (Florida).
We are fortunate to have coach Anderson. Let’s allow him to move forward.
 
[quote="SJUNC" post=397824]My guess is his agent already has an NBA job lined up be it Chicago or Philly.[/quote]

I wouldn't touch the Philly job.
I don't like the team chemistry with their "stars" (Simmons and Embiid)
Horford and Harris are being paid way beyond what they produce
Losing Reddick really hurt them
I don't see the Sixers ever being serious contenders with this roster
 
[quote="MarkRedman" post=397848][quote="SJUNC" post=397824]My guess is his agent already has an NBA job lined up be it Chicago or Philly.[/quote]

I wouldn't touch the Philly job.
I don't like the team chemistry with their "stars" (Simmons and Embiid)
Horford and Harris are being paid way beyond what they produce
Losing Reddick really hurt them
I don't see the Sixers ever being serious contenders with this roster[/quote]

I'm not sure Embiid and Harris are there for the long haul.
 
It's pretty clear that what we continually describe as ineptitude on the part of St. John's is something that every program with an iconic basketball coach struggles with. Donovan left Florida, and they did a very good job (apparently) of hiring Mike White (whose dad coincidentally is the AD at Duke). Indiana hasn't recovered from Knight leaving, UCLA despite periodic success has a Woodenesque expectation largely unfulfilled over the 45 years since he retired, UCONN fired Kevin Ollie AFTER a championship and where the ghost of Calhoun lurks. People speculate just how far Syracuse and Duke will slip after Boeheim and K finally retire.

CMA's salary is about as much as SJU can reasonably spend, and that salary is definitely in the top 40.

[URL]https://www.thestreet.com/lifestyle/sports/highest-paid-college-basketball-coaches-14774331[/URL]

I agree that our job is not one Donovan would likely be interested in should he return to college (also agree he likely will stay in the NBA). Even so, should the right job open up, his price would start at $4 million per, and would likely go much higher.

The below link shows why selecting a head coach from the mid-majors is the route many schools take. Most mid major coaches earn below $400,000, and the economic of most D1 programs dictate taking a shot on a promising up and comer.

[URL]https://www.midmajormadness.co...ch-contract-salary-database-mid-major-2019-20[/URL]

Right now, our season ticket base is very small for a Big East program, and embarrassing considering the NYC metro population. Although there are other sources of revenue, thinking we could ever afford to hire from the top shelf is ridiculous.
 
[quote="Porgyman" post=397846]Why not lure Pat Riley back on the sidelines while we’re at it? I’m sure that he would love the St. John’s challenge.
Lots of delusional fans here regarding the St John’s job. We are a school with perpetual money issues, antiquated facilities, a student body that is at best, marginally engaged, that hasn’t tasted success in years.
In short, it’s nothing like an NBA opportunity, or a big state college job. (Florida).
We are fortunate to have coach Anderson. Let’s allow him to move forward.[/quote]

Not directed at anyone in particular but it boggles my mind why there would be any consideration of changing coaches at this point. Does anyone think that last year's team underperformed? His kids play their hearts out, obviously like him and are easy to root for. Plus he is as good a representative of the University as you could ask for. I don't care what the rankings of his recruits are (although I understand why it would matter to some people) - I want to see what the product ton the court llooks like, assuming there is one this year.
 
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