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[MJDinkins]

I don't disagree with much of what you just said. However, I feel hat they have a more balanced roster than us, both in terms of size as well as experience. Achidiacono, when he's hot, is very hot. He is inconsistent but we caught him on a hot night. Maybe that was just our defensive deficiency at that point in the season. I, too, was upset over that loss because I felt that a few breaks and just a bit better defense and we would have won. Not because I think we are a vastly superior team than them.

By the way, I'm still not sure if you think they are a good team or a bad team. Let me just say, Jay Wright is a successful coach (sorry Gonzalo) and he has, over many years, built a good program. We are coming together quickly but we are not there yet.

I think Nova is a good team right now, and is a shoe-in for the top 25 next year at some point. It's hard to describe...they are just such a well-coached, talented team with chemistry and Nova always seems to have those bombers who can make tons of shots year after year. That's why even when they were predicted to have a down year, I figured they would be extremely dangerous. I don't think I've ever seen them truly fail much at any point in my life. They have consistently been a great program and this is a down year for them on the bubble. That should be telling. I want to see us get to the point where I'm not worried about us getting embarrassed by G'Town/Cuse/L'Ville on our home court at MSG on the train ride in. Once we are at the point where we can consistently compete with the real top tier foes like Nova has done, I will know we are back.

If I didn't know any better, then I would think Villanova was Kentucky, Kansas, UNC, Duke, Michigan State, Florida, UCLA, and the likes.

I'm guessing you've just started watching basketball about 8 years or so ago. Villanova was somewhat pedestrian during the earlier part of the 2000's. They certainly had a good run during a 4 or 5-year period (with guys like Foye, Ray, Sumpter, Frazier, Nardi, Fisher, Stokes, Pena, and the likes), but have fizzled the last two years in the NCAA Tournament.

It's amazing how you've morphed one season into something else.

 

[LINY89]

I don't disagree with much of what you just said. However, I feel hat they have a more balanced roster than us, both in terms of size as well as experience. Achidiacono, when he's hot, is very hot. He is inconsistent but we caught him on a hot night. Maybe that was just our defensive deficiency at that point in the season. I, too, was upset over that loss because I felt that a few breaks and just a bit better defense and we would have won. Not because I think we are a vastly superior team than them.

By the way, I'm still not sure if you think they are a good team or a bad team. Let me just say, Jay Wright is a successful coach (sorry Gonzalo) and he has, over many years, built a good program. We are coming together quickly but we are not there yet.

I think Nova is a good team right now, and is a shoe-in for the top 25 next year at some point. It's hard to describe...they are just such a well-coached, talented team with chemistry and Nova always seems to have those bombers who can make tons of shots year after year. That's why even when they were predicted to have a down year, I figured they would be extremely dangerous. I don't think I've ever seen them truly fail much at any point in my life. They have consistently been a great program and this is a down year for them on the bubble. That should be telling. I want to see us get to the point where I'm not worried about us getting embarrassed by G'Town/Cuse/L'Ville on our home court at MSG on the train ride in. Once we are at the point where we can consistently compete with the real top tier foes like Nova has done, I will know we are back.

If I didn't know any better, then I would think Villanova was Kentucky, Kansas, UNC, Duke, Michigan State, Florida, UCLA, and the likes.

I'm guessing you've just started watching basketball about about 8 years or so ago. Villanova was somewhat pedestrian during the earlier part of the 2000's. They certainly had a good run during a 4 or 5-year period (with guys like Foye, Ray, Sumpter, Frazier, Nardi, Fisher, Stokes, Pena, and the likes), but have fizzled the last two years in the NCAA Tournament.

As a young guy, that sounds about right. I have never seen Nova do poorly. I have always seen them either ranked very highly, making deep tourney runs, or at the very least on the bubble where they are now. It's like the Yankees fans born in the late 80's...by the time they started following the team in the late 90's they were nothing but great year after year. That's how Nova is to me in my era at least. I remember very clearly when I was about 16 I wanted to go to Nova...at that age obviously the basketball team probably was the primary reason, but it's obviously also a good school. One of my friends is a huge Nova fan so it makes it more fun to root against them, so I have paid specific attention to them just to bust his balls and I really can't say much to him because they are never bad as long as I've watched. I hope SJ gets to that point of success in my lifetime.

 

[MJDinkins]

I don't disagree with much of what you just said. However, I feel hat they have a more balanced roster than us, both in terms of size as well as experience. Achidiacono, when he's hot, is very hot. He is inconsistent but we caught him on a hot night. Maybe that was just our defensive deficiency at that point in the season. I, too, was upset over that loss because I felt that a few breaks and just a bit better defense and we would have won. Not because I think we are a vastly superior team than them.

By the way, I'm still not sure if you think they are a good team or a bad team. Let me just say, Jay Wright is a successful coach (sorry Gonzalo) and he has, over many years, built a good program. We are coming together quickly but we are not there yet.

I think Nova is a good team right now, and is a shoe-in for the top 25 next year at some point. It's hard to describe...they are just such a well-coached, talented team with chemistry and Nova always seems to have those bombers who can make tons of shots year after year. That's why even when they were predicted to have a down year, I figured they would be extremely dangerous. I don't think I've ever seen them truly fail much at any point in my life. They have consistently been a great program and this is a down year for them on the bubble. That should be telling. I want to see us get to the point where I'm not worried about us getting embarrassed by G'Town/Cuse/L'Ville on our home court at MSG on the train ride in. Once we are at the point where we can consistently compete with the real top tier foes like Nova has done, I will know we are back.

If I didn't know any better, then I would think Villanova was Kentucky, Kansas, UNC, Duke, Michigan State, Florida, UCLA, and the likes.

I'm guessing you've just started watching basketball about about 8 years or so ago. Villanova was somewhat pedestrian during the earlier part of the 2000's. They certainly had a good run during a 4 or 5-year period (with guys like Foye, Ray, Sumpter, Frazier, Nardi, Fisher, Stokes, Pena, and the likes), but have fizzled the last two years in the NCAA Tournament.

As a young guy, that sounds about right. I have never seen Nova do poorly. I have always seen them either ranked very highly, making deep tourney runs, or at the very least on the bubble where they are now. It's like the Yankees fans born in the late 80's...by the time they started following the team in the late 90's they were nothing but great year after year. That's how Nova is to me in my era at least. I remember very clearly when I was about 16 I wanted to go to Nova...at that age obviously the basketball team probably was the primary reason, but it's obviously also a good school. One of my friends is a huge Nova fan so it makes it more fun to root against them, so I have paid specific attention to them just to bust his balls and I really can't say much to him because they are never bad as long as I've watched. I hope SJ gets to that point of success in my lifetime.

Now it's making sense (I guess).

I can tell you 'Nova was mediocre throughout most of the 90's, and pretty pedestrian during the early part of Y2K. They had a good run from about 2005-2009. They didn't fare well in the tournament in 2010 and 2011, and didn't even make it last season.

Like I said, I'd rather strive much higher than 'Nova.

 

[LINY89]

I don't disagree with much of what you just said. However, I feel hat they have a more balanced roster than us, both in terms of size as well as experience. Achidiacono, when he's hot, is very hot. He is inconsistent but we caught him on a hot night. Maybe that was just our defensive deficiency at that point in the season. I, too, was upset over that loss because I felt that a few breaks and just a bit better defense and we would have won. Not because I think we are a vastly superior team than them.

By the way, I'm still not sure if you think they are a good team or a bad team. Let me just say, Jay Wright is a successful coach (sorry Gonzalo) and he has, over many years, built a good program. We are coming together quickly but we are not there yet.

I think Nova is a good team right now, and is a shoe-in for the top 25 next year at some point. It's hard to describe...they are just such a well-coached, talented team with chemistry and Nova always seems to have those bombers who can make tons of shots year after year. That's why even when they were predicted to have a down year, I figured they would be extremely dangerous. I don't think I've ever seen them truly fail much at any point in my life. They have consistently been a great program and this is a down year for them on the bubble. That should be telling. I want to see us get to the point where I'm not worried about us getting embarrassed by G'Town/Cuse/L'Ville on our home court at MSG on the train ride in. Once we are at the point where we can consistently compete with the real top tier foes like Nova has done, I will know we are back.

If I didn't know any better, then I would think Villanova was Kentucky, Kansas, UNC, Duke, Michigan State, Florida, UCLA, and the likes.

I'm guessing you've just started watching basketball about about 8 years or so ago. Villanova was somewhat pedestrian during the earlier part of the 2000's. They certainly had a good run during a 4 or 5-year period (with guys like Foye, Ray, Sumpter, Frazier, Nardi, Fisher, Stokes, Pena, and the likes), but have fizzled the last two years in the NCAA Tournament.

As a young guy, that sounds about right. I have never seen Nova do poorly. I have always seen them either ranked very highly, making deep tourney runs, or at the very least on the bubble where they are now. It's like the Yankees fans born in the late 80's...by the time they started following the team in the late 90's they were nothing but great year after year. That's how Nova is to me in my era at least. I remember very clearly when I was about 16 I wanted to go to Nova...at that age obviously the basketball team probably was the primary reason, but it's obviously also a good school. One of my friends is a huge Nova fan so it makes it more fun to root against them, so I have paid specific attention to them just to bust his balls and I really can't say much to him because they are never bad as long as I've watched. I hope SJ gets to that point of success in my lifetime.

Now it's making sense (I guess).

I can tell you 'Nova was mediocre throughout most of the 90's, and pretty pedestrian during the early part of Y2K. They had a good run from about 2005-2009. They didn't fare well in the tournament in 2010 and 2011, and didn't even make it last season.

Like I said, I'd rather strive much higher than 'Nova.

As someone who hasn't even seen SJ ranked more than once towards the very end of the 2011 season, matching what Nova did in the 05-09 stretch would be huge IMO. Over time of course I'd want to see more, but let's start by making the tourney, then getting ranked next year, keeping the recruits coming, and really sustaining winning here for a while before we set higher goals.

 

[MJDinkins]

As someone who hasn't even seen SJ ranked more than once towards the very end of the 2011 season, matching what Nova did in the 05-09 stretch would be huge IMO. Over time of course I'd want to see more, but let's start by making the tourney, then getting ranked next year, keeping the recruits coming, and really sustaining winning here for a while before we set higher goals.

I'd certainly like to obtain what 'Nova did during their mini-run, but they wouldn't be a program I'd mention when it comes to what I'd like St. John's to emulate. To each his or her own.

I'd like to strive higher.

 

[fun]

If you are going to look back at past posts at least be objective unlike Fun.

I see. So quoting the actual things you said, that's not objective. Whereas your paraphrase of what you claim to have allegedly said, accompanied by a long tortured explanation of what you think now, that's objective.

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean. Neither more nor less."

I agree that if you say one thing, and then say the complete opposite thing, you stand a very good chance of having said a true thing.

Nova "is a lower level team."

Nova is "a team I wish we could be."

That certainly seems to cover all the bases.

I disagree that this displays insight or that you deserve to be lauded for having done so. In fact the opposite. I think you very much a buffoon devoid of self awareness and enamored of the sound of your own voice. (Probably I should add here that I think that of a lot of people, lest you think yourself special.)

PS This is me being not objective:

http://www.bigeastboards.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=72233

Scroll down about half way, I think I nailed it.

 

[usguard]

Would not put much stock in whar Bilas says

 

[LINY89]

If you are going to look back at past posts at least be objective unlike Fun.

I see. So quoting the actual things you said, that's not objective. Whereas your paraphrase of what you claim to have allegedly said, accompanied by a long tortured explanation of what you think now, that's objective.

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean. Neither more nor less."

I agree that if you say one thing, and then say the complete opposite thing, you stand a very good chance of having said a true thing.

Nova "is a lower level team."

Nova is "a team I wish we could be."

That certainly seems to cover all the bases.

I disagree that this displays insight or that you deserve to be lauded for having done so. In fact the opposite. I think you very much a buffoon devoid of self awareness and enamored of the sound of your own voice. (Probably I should add here that I think that of a lot of people, lest you think yourself special.)

PS This is me being not objective:

http://www.bigeastboards.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=72233

Scroll down about half way, I think I nailed it.

Giving half the story is not the full story. Unless you work for some biased news network. By the way with your wit and yuck attempts...just being a critic here, but you try WAY too hard.

 

[simplyred]

If you are going to look back at past posts at least be objective unlike Fun.

I see. So quoting the actual things you said, that's not objective. Whereas your paraphrase of what you claim to have allegedly said, accompanied by a long tortured explanation of what you think now, that's objective.

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean. Neither more nor less."

I agree that if you say one thing, and then say the complete opposite thing, you stand a very good chance of having said a true thing.

Nova "is a lower level team."

Nova is "a team I wish we could be."

That certainly seems to cover all the bases.

I disagree that this displays insight or that you deserve to be lauded for having done so. In fact the opposite. I think you very much a buffoon devoid of self awareness and enamored of the sound of your own voice. (Probably I should add here that I think that of a lot of people, lest you think yourself special.)

PS This is me being not objective:

http://www.bigeastboards.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=72233

Scroll down about half way, I think I nailed it.

I'm honored to have made an appearance---brief as it was. I just scrolled through to find myself. ADD.