Big East MSG Extend Relationship as per Zags
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Great job by Val Ackerman and team to lock this down early.
Let Big East keep winning, hopefully w/ legacy BE teams leading the pack and filling the area...
Let the UCONN debate pick up again
Let Big East keep winning, hopefully w/ legacy BE teams leading the pack and filling the area...
Let the UCONN debate pick up again
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Once the league split, it wasn't totally clear which direction the Big East would head. Would the conference fade into a mid major, or stay hanging with the major conferences. Well, with announcements like this, as well as all of the success the conference has had including 2 national titles and a consistent RPI in the top 3, I don't think things could have turned out any better for the Big East. Future looking bright too.
beast of the east
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Some conferences, like the ACC or even Big Ten, could promise better teams and attendance, and even be willing to pay more.
This is a NYC show so long as St. John's and Seton hall are around, and it remains one of the best tournaments in the country.
Great job by the BE AND MSG.
This is a NYC show so long as St. John's and Seton hall are around, and it remains one of the best tournaments in the country.
Great job by the BE AND MSG.
I don't think anyone could have done a better job than Val has done since taking over. We are lucky to have her leading the conference through the initial uncertain times. Every concern we had 5 years ago has been addressed (tv contract, keeping MSG, branding, level of competition) in a way that keeps us competitive within the other power conferences.
[quote="Beast of the East" post=307248]Some conferences, like the ACC or even Big Ten, could promise better teams and attendance, and even be willing to pay more.
This is a NYC show so long as St. John's and Seton hall are around, and it remains one of the best tournaments in the country.
Great job by the BE AND MSG.[/quote]
Interestingly enough that isn’t correct...
From Jerry Carino article:
“Big East commissioner Val Ackerman responded by pushing to get the Garden contract extended immediately, USA Today Network New Jersey has learned. She had a key chip in her pocket: The Big East Tournament posted an average attendance of 18,790 fans in 2018, more than any other league in the country — and 3,500 more than the Big Ten drew in the same building.”
BET had proven to be the premier conference tourney despite the size of our league, and the numbers prove it...
This is a NYC show so long as St. John's and Seton hall are around, and it remains one of the best tournaments in the country.
Great job by the BE AND MSG.[/quote]
Interestingly enough that isn’t correct...
From Jerry Carino article:
“Big East commissioner Val Ackerman responded by pushing to get the Garden contract extended immediately, USA Today Network New Jersey has learned. She had a key chip in her pocket: The Big East Tournament posted an average attendance of 18,790 fans in 2018, more than any other league in the country — and 3,500 more than the Big Ten drew in the same building.”
BET had proven to be the premier conference tourney despite the size of our league, and the numbers prove it...
Absolutely massive news!!!!
We're fortunate the conference has done such an excellent job despite us being irrelevant for most of our time in it.
On another note, Big East teams have had several massive games at MSG this year alone. SJU over Duke and SHU over UK. I'd like to see Nova/Hall continue to schedule neutral games here, and maybe Georgetown/PC will start doing that too. Much rather see them do it than teams like Syracuse/UConn.
We're fortunate the conference has done such an excellent job despite us being irrelevant for most of our time in it.
On another note, Big East teams have had several massive games at MSG this year alone. SJU over Duke and SHU over UK. I'd like to see Nova/Hall continue to schedule neutral games here, and maybe Georgetown/PC will start doing that too. Much rather see them do it than teams like Syracuse/UConn.
Moon Mullen
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Extension of time and competition knocking will increase the value.
beast of the east
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[quote="MCNPA" post=307260][quote="Beast of the East" post=307248]Some conferences, like the ACC or even Big Ten, could promise better teams and attendance, and even be willing to pay more.
This is a NYC show so long as St. John's and Seton hall are around, and it remains one of the best tournaments in the country.
Great job by the BE AND MSG.[/quote]
Interestingly enough that isn’t correct...
From Jerry Carino article:
“Big East commissioner Val Ackerman responded by pushing to get the Garden contract extended immediately, USA Today Network New Jersey has learned. She had a key chip in her pocket: The Big East Tournament posted an average attendance of 18,790 fans in 2018, more than any other league in the country — and 3,500 more than the Big Ten drew in the same building.”
BET had proven to be the premier conference tourney despite the size of our league, and the numbers prove it...[/quote]
The big ten held their entire tournament at msg? When?
This is a NYC show so long as St. John's and Seton hall are around, and it remains one of the best tournaments in the country.
Great job by the BE AND MSG.[/quote]
Interestingly enough that isn’t correct...
From Jerry Carino article:
“Big East commissioner Val Ackerman responded by pushing to get the Garden contract extended immediately, USA Today Network New Jersey has learned. She had a key chip in her pocket: The Big East Tournament posted an average attendance of 18,790 fans in 2018, more than any other league in the country — and 3,500 more than the Big Ten drew in the same building.”
BET had proven to be the premier conference tourney despite the size of our league, and the numbers prove it...[/quote]
The big ten held their entire tournament at msg? When?
Class of 72
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=307426][quote="MCNPA" post=307260][quote="Beast of the East" post=307248]Some conferences, like the ACC or even Big Ten, could promise better teams and attendance, and even be willing to pay more.
This is a NYC show so long as St. John's and Seton hall are around, and it remains one of the best tournaments in the country.
Great job by the BE AND MSG.[/quote]
Interestingly enough that isn’t correct...
From Jerry Carino article:
“Big East commissioner Val Ackerman responded by pushing to get the Garden contract extended immediately, USA Today Network New Jersey has learned. She had a key chip in her pocket: The Big East Tournament posted an average attendance of 18,790 fans in 2018, more than any other league in the country — and 3,500 more than the Big Ten drew in the same building.”
BET had proven to be the premier conference tourney despite the size of our league, and the numbers prove it...[/quote]
The big ten held their entire tournament at msg? When?[/quote]
You're kidding right?
This is a NYC show so long as St. John's and Seton hall are around, and it remains one of the best tournaments in the country.
Great job by the BE AND MSG.[/quote]
Interestingly enough that isn’t correct...
From Jerry Carino article:
“Big East commissioner Val Ackerman responded by pushing to get the Garden contract extended immediately, USA Today Network New Jersey has learned. She had a key chip in her pocket: The Big East Tournament posted an average attendance of 18,790 fans in 2018, more than any other league in the country — and 3,500 more than the Big Ten drew in the same building.”
BET had proven to be the premier conference tourney despite the size of our league, and the numbers prove it...[/quote]
The big ten held their entire tournament at msg? When?[/quote]
You're kidding right?
[quote="Beast of the East" post=307426][quote="MCNPA" post=307260][quote="Beast of the East" post=307248]Some conferences, like the ACC or even Big Ten, could promise better teams and attendance, and even be willing to pay more.
This is a NYC show so long as St. John's and Seton hall are around, and it remains one of the best tournaments in the country.
Great job by the BE AND MSG.[/quote]
Interestingly enough that isn’t correct...
From Jerry Carino article:
“Big East commissioner Val Ackerman responded by pushing to get the Garden contract extended immediately, USA Today Network New Jersey has learned. She had a key chip in her pocket: The Big East Tournament posted an average attendance of 18,790 fans in 2018, more than any other league in the country — and 3,500 more than the Big Ten drew in the same building.”
BET had proven to be the premier conference tourney despite the size of our league, and the numbers prove it...[/quote]
The big ten held their entire tournament at msg? When?[/quote]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Big_Ten_Conference_Men's_Basketball_Tournament
Which was my point in the first place. People undersell how good of a basketball product our league is. We decimated Big ten numbers last year. Yet you put this stuff out there as if they wanted the crown they can take it. Ain’t happening...
This is a NYC show so long as St. John's and Seton hall are around, and it remains one of the best tournaments in the country.
Great job by the BE AND MSG.[/quote]
Interestingly enough that isn’t correct...
From Jerry Carino article:
“Big East commissioner Val Ackerman responded by pushing to get the Garden contract extended immediately, USA Today Network New Jersey has learned. She had a key chip in her pocket: The Big East Tournament posted an average attendance of 18,790 fans in 2018, more than any other league in the country — and 3,500 more than the Big Ten drew in the same building.”
BET had proven to be the premier conference tourney despite the size of our league, and the numbers prove it...[/quote]
The big ten held their entire tournament at msg? When?[/quote]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Big_Ten_Conference_Men's_Basketball_Tournament
Which was my point in the first place. People undersell how good of a basketball product our league is. We decimated Big ten numbers last year. Yet you put this stuff out there as if they wanted the crown they can take it. Ain’t happening...
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beast of the east
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[quote="Class of 72" post=307450][quote="Beast of the East" post=307426][quote="MCNPA" post=307260][quote="Beast of the East" post=307248]Some conferences, like the ACC or even Big Ten, could promise better teams and attendance, and even be willing to pay more.
This is a NYC show so long as St. John's and Seton hall are around, and it remains one of the best tournaments in the country.
Great job by the BE AND MSG.[/quote]
Interestingly enough that isn’t correct...
From Jerry Carino article:
“Big East commissioner Val Ackerman responded by pushing to get the Garden contract extended immediately, USA Today Network New Jersey has learned. She had a key chip in her pocket: The Big East Tournament posted an average attendance of 18,790 fans in 2018, more than any other league in the country — and 3,500 more than the Big Ten drew in the same building.”
BET had proven to be the premier conference tourney despite the size of our league, and the numbers prove it...[/quote]
The big ten held their entire tournament at msg? When?[/quote]
You're kidding right?[/quote]
I really don't have the time to pay attention to much more than sju basketball during the season. I travel a lot for work and was away from new york while the big ten was here. The BET lights up the city and local sports reporting. Did the big ten do that?
This is a NYC show so long as St. John's and Seton hall are around, and it remains one of the best tournaments in the country.
Great job by the BE AND MSG.[/quote]
Interestingly enough that isn’t correct...
From Jerry Carino article:
“Big East commissioner Val Ackerman responded by pushing to get the Garden contract extended immediately, USA Today Network New Jersey has learned. She had a key chip in her pocket: The Big East Tournament posted an average attendance of 18,790 fans in 2018, more than any other league in the country — and 3,500 more than the Big Ten drew in the same building.”
BET had proven to be the premier conference tourney despite the size of our league, and the numbers prove it...[/quote]
The big ten held their entire tournament at msg? When?[/quote]
You're kidding right?[/quote]
I really don't have the time to pay attention to much more than sju basketball during the season. I travel a lot for work and was away from new york while the big ten was here. The BET lights up the city and local sports reporting. Did the big ten do that?
Moose
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=307479][quote="Class of 72" post=307450][quote="Beast of the East" post=307426][quote="MCNPA" post=307260][quote="Beast of the East" post=307248]Some conferences, like the ACC or even Big Ten, could promise better teams and attendance, and even be willing to pay more.
This is a NYC show so long as St. John's and Seton hall are around, and it remains one of the best tournaments in the country.
Great job by the BE AND MSG.[/quote]
Interestingly enough that isn’t correct...
From Jerry Carino article:
“Big East commissioner Val Ackerman responded by pushing to get the Garden contract extended immediately, USA Today Network New Jersey has learned. She had a key chip in her pocket: The Big East Tournament posted an average attendance of 18,790 fans in 2018, more than any other league in the country — and 3,500 more than the Big Ten drew in the same building.”
BET had proven to be the premier conference tourney despite the size of our league, and the numbers prove it...[/quote]
The big ten held their entire tournament at msg? When?[/quote]
You're kidding right?[/quote]
I really don't have the time to pay attention to much more than sju basketball during the season. I travel a lot for work and was away from new york while the big ten was here. The BET lights up the city and local sports reporting. Did the big ten do that?[/quote]
They tried. Just didn't work. They had all the ads on light posts and such. White noise.
This is a NYC show so long as St. John's and Seton hall are around, and it remains one of the best tournaments in the country.
Great job by the BE AND MSG.[/quote]
Interestingly enough that isn’t correct...
From Jerry Carino article:
“Big East commissioner Val Ackerman responded by pushing to get the Garden contract extended immediately, USA Today Network New Jersey has learned. She had a key chip in her pocket: The Big East Tournament posted an average attendance of 18,790 fans in 2018, more than any other league in the country — and 3,500 more than the Big Ten drew in the same building.”
BET had proven to be the premier conference tourney despite the size of our league, and the numbers prove it...[/quote]
The big ten held their entire tournament at msg? When?[/quote]
You're kidding right?[/quote]
I really don't have the time to pay attention to much more than sju basketball during the season. I travel a lot for work and was away from new york while the big ten was here. The BET lights up the city and local sports reporting. Did the big ten do that?[/quote]
They tried. Just didn't work. They had all the ads on light posts and such. White noise.
beast of the east
Active member
[quote="Moose" post=307489][quote="Beast of the East" post=307479][quote="Class of 72" post=307450][quote="Beast of the East" post=307426][quote="MCNPA" post=307260][quote="Beast of the East" post=307248]Some conferences, like the ACC or even Big Ten, could promise better teams and attendance, and even be willing to pay more.
This is a NYC show so long as St. John's and Seton hall are around, and it remains one of the best tournaments in the country.
Great job by the BE AND MSG.[/quote]
Interestingly enough that isn’t correct...
From Jerry Carino article:
“Big East commissioner Val Ackerman responded by pushing to get the Garden contract extended immediately, USA Today Network New Jersey has learned. She had a key chip in her pocket: The Big East Tournament posted an average attendance of 18,790 fans in 2018, more than any other league in the country — and 3,500 more than the Big Ten drew in the same building.”
BET had proven to be the premier conference tourney despite the size of our league, and the numbers prove it...[/quote]
The big ten held their entire tournament at msg? When?[/quote]
You're kidding right?[/quote]
I really don't have the time to pay attention to much more than sju basketball during the season. I travel a lot for work and was away from new york while the big ten was here. The BET lights up the city and local sports reporting. Did the big ten do that?[/quote]
They tried. Just didn't work. They had all the ads on light posts and such. White noise.[/quote]
Thanks Moose, I really value your broad knowledge of sports in general. My focus is much narrower.
This is a NYC show so long as St. John's and Seton hall are around, and it remains one of the best tournaments in the country.
Great job by the BE AND MSG.[/quote]
Interestingly enough that isn’t correct...
From Jerry Carino article:
“Big East commissioner Val Ackerman responded by pushing to get the Garden contract extended immediately, USA Today Network New Jersey has learned. She had a key chip in her pocket: The Big East Tournament posted an average attendance of 18,790 fans in 2018, more than any other league in the country — and 3,500 more than the Big Ten drew in the same building.”
BET had proven to be the premier conference tourney despite the size of our league, and the numbers prove it...[/quote]
The big ten held their entire tournament at msg? When?[/quote]
You're kidding right?[/quote]
I really don't have the time to pay attention to much more than sju basketball during the season. I travel a lot for work and was away from new york while the big ten was here. The BET lights up the city and local sports reporting. Did the big ten do that?[/quote]
They tried. Just didn't work. They had all the ads on light posts and such. White noise.[/quote]
Thanks Moose, I really value your broad knowledge of sports in general. My focus is much narrower.