Big East Mount Rushmore
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Not a Mt. Rushmore, but I was in HS in early 90's and when I really began following more teams and watching more games or listening on radio to both SJU and Seton Hall.
Sealy, Moten, Mourning, Kittles, Marshall, Lopez, Iverson etc...
Interestingly i used to like Arturas Karnishovas a lot from Seton Hall.... I remember thinking i could shoot like him when i was playing at the playground. What was i thinking....lol
Sealy, Moten, Mourning, Kittles, Marshall, Lopez, Iverson etc...
Interestingly i used to like Arturas Karnishovas a lot from Seton Hall.... I remember thinking i could shoot like him when i was playing at the playground. What was i thinking....lol
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Haaa yeah see this is where I'm really interested in opinions based on age. I graduated St johns in 92. If I made a list based on my time at St Johns I'd have Boo Harvey on the list. Heck in my top 10 I;d probably put ( Henefeld ) from Uconn on it because he was kinda the glue that turned them around too. Those were the good old days. Pitt had Brian Shorter who was a beast. BC had Dana Barros. Fun timesRedStormNC post=443398 said:
This site is great
Can click in my year, team, player etc...
[URL]https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/conferences/big-east/leaders/pts-player-career.html[/URL]
Can click in my year, team, player etc...
[URL]https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/conferences/big-east/leaders/pts-player-career.html[/URL]
I was too young to pay much attention to stats, but was just surprised to see Ewing only averaged 15 ppg over the 4 years and his sophomore season highest at 17.7
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Wasn't called upon to provide a ton of offense by Thompson. I remember being super shocked that he averaged 20 as a rookie . . . and then it just got better and better. But the problem was that he was much less intimidating defensively in the NBA.RedStormNC post=443412 said:
I had forgotten about Mourning he was awesome in college. Although I was at the game in DC when we beat them on the road and we had so many foul calls Barry Milhaven came into the game guarding Mourning and Boo hit a last second shot. What a game and season with Boo hitting last second shotsL J S A post=443410 said:
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Almost impossible as SJU fans not to have our perspective distorted by our position. There is a concept that essentially says that observing an event just a few feet from another objective observer changes your perception of reality.
To me, in college basketball, coaches stand above players due to longevity and success in being architects of program building. The best players typically play 1 to 3 years today, and it's hard to compare that to 15, 20, or 30 years coaching a program.
That being said, arguably, when you think of the most successful Big East schools, when you think of UCONN's success Calhoun is the first name that comes to mind, Georgetown Thompson. Syracuse Boeheim, and Villanova Wright.
Those are the 4 most successful BE programs and their coaches rank with the very best all time, both college and pro.
Looie's value to our university is unparalleled and would put him above all others in that regard. He embodies Vincentian values and espouses them at every opportunity in word and deed. As a coach he may actually be second to Lapchick. Looie's 70 plus year association with the school is just mind boggling however.
Gavitt as a founder and commissioner is notable but just doesn't warrant what the above 5 mean to the BE.
To me, in college basketball, coaches stand above players due to longevity and success in being architects of program building. The best players typically play 1 to 3 years today, and it's hard to compare that to 15, 20, or 30 years coaching a program.
That being said, arguably, when you think of the most successful Big East schools, when you think of UCONN's success Calhoun is the first name that comes to mind, Georgetown Thompson. Syracuse Boeheim, and Villanova Wright.
Those are the 4 most successful BE programs and their coaches rank with the very best all time, both college and pro.
Looie's value to our university is unparalleled and would put him above all others in that regard. He embodies Vincentian values and espouses them at every opportunity in word and deed. As a coach he may actually be second to Lapchick. Looie's 70 plus year association with the school is just mind boggling however.
Gavitt as a founder and commissioner is notable but just doesn't warrant what the above 5 mean to the BE.
Mt. Rushmore, so 4 not five.
Big East overall so coaches, commissioners, players.
This is just too tough, Gavitt, Gavitt, Gavitt and Gavitt, without whom, there is not a Big East. What a BB visionary.
But here goes, (drumroll please.......)
Gavitt, Ewing, Calhoun and Mullin*
*or Jay Wright for what he's done for making the new configuration so formidable, or *John Thompson for his enormous presence in the early, then heyday of the only conference EVER to place 3 out of the 4 teams in the final four.
Big East overall so coaches, commissioners, players.
This is just too tough, Gavitt, Gavitt, Gavitt and Gavitt, without whom, there is not a Big East. What a BB visionary.
But here goes, (drumroll please.......)
Gavitt, Ewing, Calhoun and Mullin*
*or Jay Wright for what he's done for making the new configuration so formidable, or *John Thompson for his enormous presence in the early, then heyday of the only conference EVER to place 3 out of the 4 teams in the final four.
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So we’re talking transformational figures. And that has to be:
Gavitt for reasons everyone gave,
John Thompson for not only creating the Big East’s first juggernaut but for being a trailblazing coach at a time when so few major conference coaches were black.
Patrick Ewing for being the first player to put the league on his shoulders.
Jim Calhoun for doing the most masterful program building in college history and continuing the legacy of Big East greatness when once-proud programs declined (cough, cough).
Gavitt for reasons everyone gave,
John Thompson for not only creating the Big East’s first juggernaut but for being a trailblazing coach at a time when so few major conference coaches were black.
Patrick Ewing for being the first player to put the league on his shoulders.
Jim Calhoun for doing the most masterful program building in college history and continuing the legacy of Big East greatness when once-proud programs declined (cough, cough).
Chris, Patrick and Pearl where not only the faces of the Big East, but they were the faces of college basketball during that era. Much as Magic and Bird where during their time. As far as I'm concerned, there were no other Big East players who compared to those 3 in that way. Maybe others have had as much, or even more talent(Iverson and Walter come to mind), but no other player(s) has had the combination of talent, timing, longevity and pure marquee value that those 3 did. IMO #4 is debatable, but those 3 stand head and shoulders above the rest as players.
Agree with Monte. As far as just the players, Mullin, Ewing, Iverson and Pearl are certainly the 4 to go on the Mount.
Mullin and Ewing, then went on to become Gold Medal Dream teamers, and HoFers and recognized as the Face of the Big East.
Mullin and Ewing, then went on to become Gold Medal Dream teamers, and HoFers and recognized as the Face of the Big East.