Barkley/Omar

Ralph318! said:
I believe (please correct me if I’m wrong) that our Great 8 team should have had Anthony Glover on the team. He was academically ineligible due to his SAT score. That was the year that got away. He was the missing piece.
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Ty Grant was playing with a broken hand.
 
lawmanfan said:
Ty Grant was playing with a broken hand.
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As an aside I knew Ernie Lortch of Riverside Church a bit when my nephew played there. (No jokes about him turning out to be a bad actor 😇)

Before a SJU game two recruits were present Ty Grant and Ed Brown. Lortch introduced me to Ty briefly and told me he was going to impact SJU much more than more heralded Brown. He stressed how Ty was one of hardest working kids he had at Riverside, a real overachiever and great teammate. He was right and Brown proved quite the opposite. Been a big TG fan ever since.
 
paultzman said:
As an aside I knew Ernie Lortch of Riverside Church a bit when my nephew played there. (No jokes about him turning out to be a bad actor 😇)

Before a SJU game two recruits were present Ty Grant and Ed Brown. Lortch introduced me to Ty briefly and told me he was going to impact SJU much more than more heralded Brown. He stressed how Ty was one of hardest working kids he had at Riverside, a real overachiever and great teammate. He was right and Brown proved quite the opposite. Been a big TG fan ever since.
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Lorch was definitely right - Ty Grant is in the LMF Hall of Favorite Players. Other inductees include Charles Minlend, Anthony Glover, and of course Billy Singleton. Sort of the All-Lunchpail wing of the Hall. Guys who showed up, competed, and produced despite physical limitations. I'll probably put Posh in there once he's done playing in college and the odds of Mullins Revenge starting an encampment outside of the Hall go down some.
 
lawmanfan said:
Lorch was definitely right - Ty Grant is in the LMF Hall of Favorite Players. Other inductees include Charles Minlend, Anthony Glover, and of course Billy Singleton. Sort of the All-Lunchpail wing of the Hall. Guys who showed up, competed, and produced despite physical limitations. I'll probably put Posh in there once he's done playing in college and the odds of Mullins Revenge starting an encampment outside of the Hall go down some.
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Great post & I have same sentiments about those blue collar guys. I saw Billy Singleton as a kid at Stevenson when he could jump to the ceiling. He blows out his knee badly, becomes a Johnny and shows his hoops smarts, by completely and successfully altering his game. Will always remember him as well as that game turning BS tech he got v hated Duke. 😡
 
lawmanfan said:
Lorch was definitely right - Ty Grant is in the LMF Hall of Favorite Players. Other inductees include Charles Minlend, Anthony Glover, and of course Billy Singleton. Sort of the All-Lunchpail wing of the Hall. Guys who showed up, competed, and produced despite physical limitations. I'll probably put Posh in there once he's done playing in college and the odds of Mullins Revenge starting an encampment outside of the Hall go down some.
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The guy who tops my list is Rob Thomas who suffered what was called "the worst knee injury" ever seen at STJ. His basketball future fell apart but he continued as a contributor helping young people who faced some of the same difficulties he overcame.
 
KG44 said:
With all the talk of a PG, I decided to reminisce. Our PG’s in the ‘90’s were putrid. I remember losing out every year for the likes of Reid and Hollaway (not sure we were even in it). But then we got Barkley and Omar back-to-back. I remember Barkley left after his sophomore year because issues were swirling. I forget exactly. Stil was a first rounder. Omar left after his freshman year (barely missed the 1st round at pick 31). Any remember why he left?
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Money. The lure of nba.
 
paultzman said:
Great post & I have same sentiments about those blue collar guys. I saw Billy Singleton as a kid at Stevenson when he could jump to the ceiling. He blows out his knee badly, becomes a Johnny and shows his hoops smarts, by completely and successfully altering his game. Will always remember him as well as that game turning BS tech he got v hated Duke. 😡
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Bill had a congenital knee issue growing up (bow legged) which they performed surgery on prior to him attending SJU. They took out a lateral wedge of bone from both knees to straighten him out. What they didn’t anticipate is that he would grow later in high school and it left him with an over compensated tibia’s which left him mildly knockneed.
 
Alumni Hall said:
Bill had a congenital knee issue growing up (bow legged) which they performed surgery on prior to him attending SJU. They took out a lateral wedge of bone from both knees to straighten him out. What they didn’t anticipate is that he would grow later in high school and it left him with an over compensated tibia’s which left him mildly knockneed.
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Thx for response and so happy you post here w your rich sense of SJ history and professional background.
 
lawmanfan said:
Ty Grant was playing with a broken hand.
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You are not only correct but that was the best version of Glover. If you watch his high school highlights he was athletic as hell to a level we never saw here.

He was killing everyone in open runs for a year in Alumni Hall when he sat out.

Edit: oops was trying to reply to Ralph318!
 
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SJU85 said:
Which got infected.
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So story time tonight. So Ty fractured his navicular bone in his hand. We brought him to the top hand specialist at The Hospital for Special Surgery. Michelle Carlson MD. A pin was placed to secure the fractured bone. All goes well for a few days UNTILL Saturday when I get a call from Ty at like 4 am as we were in our NYC hotel for the Big East Tournament. At 6 am I call Dr Carlson on her cell and she asks me to get to the hospital asap with Ty. Off we go in a cab and arrive in minutes where she meets up with us with her fiancé who is carrying his tuxedo and her rehearsal dinner gown. She examines Ty’s hand and sure enough all it took was a minuscule bacteria to invade the surgical site.
She sends off her fiancé and scrubs down…as she completely irrigates the wound area and cleans everything out. Puts him on an IV antibiotic which she shows me how to do. She informs me that I have to do it everyday at the NCAA’s in my hotel room…

The next evening we had the NCAA selection show and the team is assembled in the student center to watch. Who walks in but Dr Carlson with fiancé in tow. She comes to watch with the team. After we see our seeding on tv, we head to my office where Dr again does a IV antibiotic treatment. I explain to her that I was not legally able to do the procedure and I convince our AD that Dr Carlson has to travel with us as the procedure had to be done daily if we had any hope of Ty playing. So,off we go on the team charter to Orlando with Doc and fiancée and lots of needles, syringes and IV meds packed in my bags.
And the rest is history, Ty recovers well to her daily treatments and gets a double double against Indiana sending us to Knoxville.
 
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Alumni Hall said:
So story time tonight. So Ty fractured his navicular bone in his hand. We brought him to the top hand specialist at The Hospital for Special Surgery. Michelle Carlson MD. A pin was placed to secure the fractured bone. All goes well for a few days UNTILL Saturday when I get a call from Ty at like 4 am as we were in our NYC hotel for the Big East Tournament. At 6 am I call Dr Carlson on her cell and she asks me to get to the hospital asap with Ty. Off we go in a cab and arrive in minutes where she meets up with her fiancé who is carrying his tuxedo and her rehearsal dinner gown. She examines Ty’s hand and sure enough all it took was a minuscule bacteria to invade the surgical site.
She sends off her fiancé and scrubs down…as she completely irrigates the wound area and cleans everything out. Puts him on an IV antibiotic which she shows me how to do. She informs me that I have to do it everyday at the NCAA’s in my hotel room…

The next evening we had the NCAA selection show and the team is assembled in the student center to watch. Who walks in but Dr Carlson with fiancé in tow. She comes to watch with the team. After we see our seeding on tv, we head to my office where Dr again does a IV antibiotic treatment. I explain to her that I was not legally able to do the procedure and I convince our AD that Dr Carlson has to travel with us as the procedure had to be done daily if we had any hope of Ty playing. So,off we go on the team charter to Orlando with Doc and fiancée and lots of needles, syringes and IV meds packed in my bags.
And the rest is history, Ty recovers well to her daily treatments and gets a double double against Indiana sending us to Knoxville.
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I hope they are still married after all that.

In terms of antibiotics, things have progressed so much that I was able to inject my own antibiotics at home after I had open heart surgery. Granted the needle was in my arm, all I had to do was put the other part in daily for an hour.
 
fan since 65 said:
I hope they are still married after all that.

In terms of antibiotics, things have progressed so much that I was able to inject my own antibiotics at home after I had open heart surgery. Granted the needle was in my arm, all I had to do was put the other part in daily for an hour.
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After the press wrote articles about her Herculean effort along with others, she became the go to hand surgeon for most of the Big East teams and NBA. Teams physicians would call her for advice and fly their players in for evaluations and surgery. After awhile she advised each NBA team to hire their own and she advised each team who she would recommend. Back then the team orthopedist handled hand injuries but that all changed due to her influence. Her office wall is filled with pro and college athletes and celebs who she treated.
 
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