Athletic Director Search

[Sherman Sheridan & Grant]

Can we get back to the topic of searching for an AD?
Post writes:
SJU announced general counsel Joe Olivia will step down as interim athletic director...while remaining with the program. He will be replaced by associate VP for athletics Kathy Meehan and the school will kick off a national search.

1.Comments on how poised, sage, insightful Ms. Meehan is...
And
2.Can we just get this damn thing done and hire a sound AD?
Maybe call upon Gene Michaels (yes I'm a NYY fan since birth) who has great personnel recruiting skills. A competent AD would of course put us over the top in the promising direction we are already heading.

Thanks.

 

[beast of the east]

Don't think that possibly owning Slice about $1.6 million for the remaining four years of his five-year contract helps the situation.

The university is an expert in debt. Just pile it on baby.

Who said the amount was $1.6. I believe the amount is considerably higher.

I think that's just his purported salary of $400K per for the presumed 4 years left on his contract. You're usually pretty informed. What did you hear?

A 6 year guaranteed contract at a higher figure.
We currently owe in excess of $2 million.

If the university negotiated a 6 year deal at say $2.5 million that kept them on the hook for the entire amount, the idiot who negotiated it should have been disqualified from interim AD status and not be part of a selection committee. In fact, should be removed as general counsel - no qualified person signs a contract like that, especially with a guy who hasn't lasted very long in his past few employments.

I have a hard time believing that the university would be on the hook for the entire amount. There has to be a buyout clause.

 

[beast of the east]

Don't think that possibly owning Slice about $1.6 million for the remaining four years of his five-year contract helps the situation.

I don't know why StJohn's should owe Mr. Rohrssen a nickel. If Mr. Slice was unhappy with his position at StJohn's as speculated, then St.John's should release him from his contractual obligations. I doubt that StJohn's contract guaranteed that Rohrssen would be happy at St.John's and obligated it to pay him if he was not happy and wanted to leave.

Head Coach also doesn't want to retain him so under these circumstances you come to an arrangement.

It does appear to be a $3 million personnel mistake. I know you guys don't see it that way, but when a coach is taking more of the role of a general manager and delegating responsibilities, when you bring in a guy at that salary level and it ends so bitterly in one season, the buck stops with Mullin for making a bad choice. This really increases the necessity that an experienced guy be brought on board and not a Richmond.

 

[LJSA]

I heard a while ago he was making more than $500,000.

I know he has a great rep and posters argue whether losing him was a big loss or not, but because we lost him so quickly the only thing we have to show for his stay here is a big dent in the wallet.

In hindsight, I would have preferred Rasheen Davis. Hell, even retaining Chiles may have been better, at least distraction-wise.

Anyone know if Steve DeMeo wants to return to the Big East?

 

[Las Vegan]

A confederacy of dunces and incompetents. Is it any surprise that the vast majority of SJU alums choose not to donate money to the school?

 

[Class of 72]

Don't think that possibly owning Slice about $1.6 million for the remaining four years of his five-year contract helps the situation.

I don't know why StJohn's should owe Mr. Rohrssen a nickel. If Mr. Slice was unhappy with his position at StJohn's as speculated, then St.John's should release him from his contractual obligations. I doubt that StJohn's contract guaranteed that Rohrssen would be happy at St.John's and obligated it to pay him if he was not happy and wanted to leave.

Head Coach also doesn't want to retain him so under these circumstances you come to an arrangement.

It does appear to be a $3 million personnel mistake. I know you guys don't see it that way, but when a coach is taking more of the role of a general manager and delegating responsibilities, when you bring in a guy at that salary level and it ends so bitterly in one season, the buck stops with Mullin for making a bad choice. This really increases the necessity that an experienced guy be brought on board and not a Richmond.

Unfortunately Chris also showed some poor decision making as an executive in the pros but it is not just on him. Much of it falls on an inexperienced President that may be over his head, an iterim AD/general counsel that has been involved in every major administrative fck up in the past few years and on a Board of Trustees that allowed much of this to exist. Slice and his agent knew how to play the negotiation game better than Oliva and Gempasaw but Mullin was allowed to make an emotional hire at a rediculous salary because, like last year's team, inexperienced and mediocre talent eventually will cost you big time.

 

[Knight]

Hey, maybe Slice as the new AD?

 

[Class of 72]

Hey, maybe Slice as the new AD?

Assign him to the Staten Island campus until he agrees to a separation agreement. :lol:

 

[redmannorth]

Don't think that possibly owning Slice about $1.6 million for the remaining four years of his five-year contract helps the situation.

The university is an expert in debt. Just pile it on baby.

Who said the amount was $1.6. I believe the amount is considerably higher.

I think that's just his purported salary of $400K per for the presumed 4 years left on his contract. You're usually pretty informed. What did you hear?

A 6 year guaranteed contract at a higher figure.
We currently owe in excess of $2 million.

If the university negotiated a 6 year deal at say $2.5 million that kept them on the hook for the entire amount, the idiot who negotiated it should have been disqualified from interim AD status and not be part of a selection committee. In fact, should be removed as general counsel - no qualified person signs a contract like that, especially with a guy who hasn't lasted very long in his past few employments.

I have a hard time believing that the university would be on the hook for the entire amount. There has to be a buyout clause.

It is not a question of if , it is a fact that he has a 6 year guaranteed contract and 5 years are left on it.
If there was a buyout clause don't you believe he would have been gone already ? If there was a buyout clause there would be no ongoing discussions and Slice would be gone and paid in accordance with the buyout. Sorry you have s hard time believing but this is the situation at SJU.

 

[redken]

Don't think that possibly owning Slice about $1.6 million for the remaining four years of his five-year contract helps the situation.

I don't know why StJohn's should owe Mr. Rohrssen a nickel. If Mr. Slice was unhappy with his position at StJohn's as speculated, then St.John's should release him from his contractual obligations. I doubt that StJohn's contract guaranteed that Rohrssen would be happy at St.John's and obligated it to pay him if he was not happy and wanted to leave.

Head Coach also doesn't want to retain him so under these circumstances you come to an arrangement.

It does appear to be a $3 million personnel mistake. I know you guys don't see it that way, but when a coach is taking more of the role of a general manager and delegating responsibilities, when you bring in a guy at that salary level and it ends so bitterly in one season, the buck stops with Mullin for making a bad choice. This really increases the necessity that an experienced guy be brought on board and not a Richmond.

True, but under the circumstances, where would the money come from to lure an experienced guy with a positive track record?

 

[beast of the east]

Don't think that possibly owning Slice about $1.6 million for the remaining four years of his five-year contract helps the situation.

I don't know why StJohn's should owe Mr. Rohrssen a nickel. If Mr. Slice was unhappy with his position at StJohn's as speculated, then St.John's should release him from his contractual obligations. I doubt that StJohn's contract guaranteed that Rohrssen would be happy at St.John's and obligated it to pay him if he was not happy and wanted to leave.

Head Coach also doesn't want to retain him so under these circumstances you come to an arrangement.

It does appear to be a $3 million personnel mistake. I know you guys don't see it that way, but when a coach is taking more of the role of a general manager and delegating responsibilities, when you bring in a guy at that salary level and it ends so bitterly in one season, the buck stops with Mullin for making a bad choice. This really increases the necessity that an experienced guy be brought on board and not a Richmond.

Unfortunately Chris also showed some poor decision making as an executive in the pros but it is not just on him. Much of it falls on an inexperienced President that may be over his head, an iterim AD/general counsel that has been involved in every major administrative fck up in the past few years and on a Board of Trustees that allowed much of this to exist. Slice and his agent knew how to play the negotiation game better than Oliva and Gempasaw but Mullin was allowed to make an emotional hire at a rediculous salary because, like last year's team, inexperienced and mediocre talent eventually will cost you big time.

A board of trustees who really don't know much about running a school but have donated a lot of cash for the right to do precisely that hire a non-charismatic president whose PhD is in farm economics and whose last position was as provost. He promptly disposes of the AD as he shreds the athletic department of personnel, freezes salaries, and drives a lot of young talent away from the university. He then hires a rookie basketball coach who comes into a department with no infrastructure to lean upon, and appoints the chief counsel to run the AD for more than a year. In any event the head basketball coach takes zero marching orders from the lawyer cum AD. The chief counsel and now pt interim AD allows an incredibly large guaranteed contract to be given to a career assistant who has moved around recently more than an outlaw on the lam. In the meantime, valued athletic department employees such as Kevin Barry are allowed to leave the university when a few thousand dollars of salary increase would have kept them in place. I am all for cleaning house of low talent who have been at the university for way too long, but in process the school got it all wrong in paying a guy like Slice a ton of guaranteed dough at the expense of hard working university employees. I'm not saying the two are mutually exclusive situations, but this is a school that traditionally underpays staff (resulting in an overall lower talent pool) and it is puzzling that they would be so careless with a contract worth millions to a now severed Slice.

This post is not a shot at Mullin. If you are going to hire an inexperienced guy, you had better put some experience around him.

The short of it is, I agree 100% with your assessment.

 

[Class of 72]

Don't think that possibly owning Slice about $1.6 million for the remaining four years of his five-year contract helps the situation.

I don't know why StJohn's should owe Mr. Rohrssen a nickel. If Mr. Slice was unhappy with his position at StJohn's as speculated, then St.John's should release him from his contractual obligations. I doubt that StJohn's contract guaranteed that Rohrssen would be happy at St.John's and obligated it to pay him if he was not happy and wanted to leave.

Head Coach also doesn't want to retain him so under these circumstances you come to an arrangement.

It does appear to be a $3 million personnel mistake. I know you guys don't see it that way, but when a coach is taking more of the role of a general manager and delegating responsibilities, when you bring in a guy at that salary level and it ends so bitterly in one season, the buck stops with Mullin for making a bad choice. This really increases the necessity that an experienced guy be brought on board and not a Richmond.

True, but under the circumstances, where would the money come from to lure an experienced guy with a positive track record?

Since Mullin pushed for Slice at any cost and Oliva and Gempasaw rubber - stamped the hire, the difference in what is owed should be split amongst their salaries. You can bet they will be more vigilant in negotiations next time.