Artest Talks About $ Games While at SJU

[Andrew]

Arrest would not throw a game. He was a warrior for us and to accuse him of cheating is completely unfounded and insulting.

Which no one did.

Sure looked like it was hinted at.

Years ago I heard something from whom I considered a reliable source as to the reason, but with the benefit of hindsight, I actually think the real reason was that he was in the middle of a bipolar episode. I would blame meds for making him foggy, but I don't believe he started taking any until pros.

Those of us who watched Ron's 2 year career here know that there were times that he simply did not come to play. I'm not talking about an off day, I'm talking about a game where there was obviously something more going on. One of those games happened to be the Ohio State game. Now maybe it was his mental issues, or maybe it was a personal matter, or maybe it was an injury, or maybe it was something else. I don't know. But in light of these recent revelations of his, along with his history of extremely poor decision making, I wouldn't take anything off the table.

Maybe just a bad game. Mullin had one of those in the Final Four.

 

[beast of the east]

Arrest would not throw a game. He was a warrior for us and to accuse him of cheating is completely unfounded and insulting.

Which no one did.

Sure looked like it was hinted at.

Years ago I heard something from whom I considered a reliable source as to the reason, but with the benefit of hindsight, I actually think the real reason was that he was in the middle of a bipolar episode. I would blame meds for making him foggy, but I don't believe he started taking any until pros.

Those of us who watched Ron's 2 year career here know that there were times that he simply did not come to play. I'm not talking about an off day, I'm talking about a game where there was obviously something more going on. One of those games happened to be the Ohio State game. Now maybe it was his mental issues, or maybe it was a personal matter, or maybe it was an injury, or maybe it was something else. I don't know. But in light of these recent revelations of his, along with his history of extremely poor decision making, I wouldn't take anything off the table.

Maybe just a bad game. Mullin had one of those in the Final Four.

There are some unnamed people who will look up the boxscore to justify what you just wrote, but the truth is that Georgetown, as good a defensive team as there was in the 80s had a game strategy to blanket Mullin and Berry, and dare anyone else to beat them. It worked, and no matter what the box score says, has little to do with how well Berry or Mullin played that day. Both were smothered all day.

 

[indyredmen97]

This is a great discussion topic, to me it speaks to greater themes about society. As a fan, I want to scrub the notion of Metta World Peace potentially being compromised away from my brain. The Ohio State elite eight game for instance, was about as painful a loss as I can ever feel for an event that I had no part of at all. So to revisit that game, and his brilliant basketball career at St. John's, nearly 20 years later allows me to look at this from a completely different lens. From this vantage point, I am an unconscionable hypocrite.
That Ohio State team was compromised. They were sanctioned, in a way that didn't hurt their new coach Thad Matta because the NCAA protected them (as they would say in the "Wire" they had a rabbi). No one cares. Why? Because we as a society punish those who we can, don't touch who we can't beat, and revisit things in a sanctimonious way that makes us feel better.
MWP was a great student athlete for St. John's, the university probably bought buildings, improved education, and created a better environment because of the team reaching the tourney in 97 and making the elite 8 in 98. He got no money from that. I'm glad to read that in some small part he did.

 

[beast of the east]

MWP was a great student athlete for St. John's, the university probably bought buildings, improved education, and created a better environment because of the team reaching the tourney in 97 and making the elite 8 in 98. He got no money from that. I'm glad to read that in some small part he did.

While I am of the sentiment that many elite college athletes receive little as they fill football stadiums and basketball arenas, and whose talent reaps millions of dollars for their schools in TV contracts .

On the other hand the payments that MWP and many others received from drug dealers came from the guys who pollute our poorest neighborhoods with the infestation of drugs. For every MWP who received some of this largesse, there are a few hundred kids who succumbed to drug addiction that destroyed their lives.

 

[monte]

This is a great discussion topic, to me it speaks to greater themes about society. As a fan, I want to scrub the notion of Metta World Peace potentially being compromised away from my brain. The Ohio State elite eight game for instance, was about as painful a loss as I can ever feel for an event that I had no part of at all. So to revisit that game, and his brilliant basketball career at St. John's, nearly 20 years later allows me to look at this from a completely different lens. From this vantage point, I am an unconscionable hypocrite.
That Ohio State team was compromised. They were sanctioned, in a way that didn't hurt their new coach Thad Matta because the NCAA protected them (as they would say in the "Wire" they had a rabbi). No one cares. Why? Because we as a society punish those who we can, don't touch who we can't beat, and revisit things in a sanctimonious way that makes us feel better.
MWP was a great student athlete for St. John's, the university probably bought buildings, improved education, and created a better environment because of the team reaching the tourney in 97 and making the elite 8 in 98. He got no money from that. I'm glad to read that in some small part he did.

When I think of "great student-athletes" the first name that comes to my mind is Malik Sealy. Ron not so much, but maybe theres a side to him that Im not aware of.