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Where do you see Xavier?
I think the Seton Hall gap is Solar System size.
SJUDave
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Roster not done yet but the additions they have made aren't anything special. I think Richard unfortunately got a slow start to recruiting there given the coaching carousel, but I have no doubt he'll get it going there soon, probably the year after this one. They'll be 6th I imagine maybe 7
I don't think they're going to have multiple studs up their sleeve either. I'm not a gambler but their o/u for the year will be fascinating & I wonder if their NET will be in the 300s like DePaul/Georgetown a couple years ago.
SJUDave
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conference is going to be a lot worse this year it seems than last year...
At the bottom I’m assuming you mean (and I’d agree). The top 3 will be stronger.
I don’t know what’s going on with Marquette. They may be punting for field position.
SJU14
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Stronger at the top, weaker at the bottom. One of the things the BE has had since realignment is a strong middle and bottom (other than DePaul). This upcoming season it might be more like the ACC, strong at the top and nothing after that.
Redenbacher
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It's really sad to see what's happening with Seton Hall, it was fun having a NY-NJ rivalry with them. Not good for the Big East either to have such a seemingly bad program in the conference.
Marquette's a team we should always think will be top five until proven otherwise. Just requires some squinting and benefit of the doubt with the guys taking leaps. Do think this approach will bite Shaka one year.
Big East desperately needs Sorber to return for Georgetown, and for Villanova to pick a rabbit out of a hat in late May.
Providence is probably more talented but don't trust Kim. Butler is likely going to be mediocre at best. Xavier needs a year, but they got a lot of guys who can be retained. Seton Hall may be worse next year, which I thought was impossible.
Pretty disappointing considering all the hype about rev share and the BE having an advantage.
SJUDave
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Yes the top 3 will be excellent. Villanova possibly 4th-6 range, Marquette will take a step back because they, again, refuse to use the portal, and that will hold them back from competing with the top 3. Providence has some talent, but major questions at head coach. I like the pieces Butler added, but I don't trust Thad Matta. Lets see who else Xavier can add, but they've lost a lot of fire power. Georgetown could be interesting but losing Sorber will be too difficult to overcome.
Seton Hall allegedly had money coming into this portal season. I had someone tell me they were ready to go with $4 million. That's clearly not the case it seems. Then there was rumors of a very wealthy alum coming in to help them and that seemingly hasn't happened yet. They are the new DePaul.
Astoria STH
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A sweep of UConn combined with our regular season and BET championships have certainly done enough to revitalize our rivalry with them. Add our continued offseason momentum with their fanbases desire to punch back at us and it has all of the ingredients of a raucous, animated home/home next year.
Yes Creighton will be there but I also have my concerns with McD having his eyes set on retirement in the very near future.
This Fall I think that the league is going to establish a marketing scheme that firmly advertises us, UConn and Creighton as national powerhouses that are at the forefront of the league. In reality that's what the league is right now, the middle and bottom tiers are just looking up while this trio continues to steamroll ahead.
Limitless praise should be given to Rick, Shanley, Repole, Kull this Summer, soak it all in everyone.
Yes Creighton will be there but I also have my concerns with McD having his eyes set on retirement in the very near future.
This Fall I think that the league is going to establish a marketing scheme that firmly advertises us, UConn and Creighton as national powerhouses that are at the forefront of the league. In reality that's what the league is right now, the middle and bottom tiers are just looking up while this trio continues to steamroll ahead.
Limitless praise should be given to Rick, Shanley, Repole, Kull this Summer, soak it all in everyone.
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Shaka is against the transfer portal and only wants to use it when absolutely necessary, but we may be at that point already.
I'm not sure what's going on with Nova and Willard. His transfer class is ranked #56 and recruiting class #90.
The top 3 Big East teams have done an excellent job, but the rest haven't impressed or are slipping into mid-major territory.
I saw a couple weeks ago that Big East has the top revenue sharing of any conference, so it's confusing why some are struggling to attract talent. By 2030 when all of the TV contracts are up some teams may be at risk of being left behind.
I'm not sure what's going on with Nova and Willard. His transfer class is ranked #56 and recruiting class #90.
The top 3 Big East teams have done an excellent job, but the rest haven't impressed or are slipping into mid-major territory.
I saw a couple weeks ago that Big East has the top revenue sharing of any conference, so it's confusing why some are struggling to attract talent. By 2030 when all of the TV contracts are up some teams may be at risk of being left behind.
ehh... i wouldnt go with "a lot worse"
I think we are shaping up to have a better Top3 this year than last. SJU/UConn/Marq vs SJU/UConn/Creighton.... remember only we were ranked at the end of the season prior to the Tourney...
i think Providence "talent" has improved... GTown depends on Sorber... Marq- i trust Shaka will make them competitive... These 3 teams should be on the Bubble.
Nova... theyll need someone from the draft to be competitive this year. X will take a natural step back. Depaul should be improved 2nd year under Holtman... I like Butler's additions. These 4 teams should be fiesty...
then there is Seton Hall... which i didnt think could get worse than last year.... they are shaping up to be an embarrassment to the League.
Apr 29th Predictions... 3 Locks. 3/4 bubble teams.
Nova story is simple. Willard burned bridges with the way he left Maryland and whiffed on retaining Gillespie and Rice. Add to already being behind since its a new job, and its a pretty bad place to start from for him. I do think they're one random addition (like Jamir Watkins) away from being interesting.
I agree I don't think it'll be a lot worse, or even worse necessarily. Let's take Lunardi's projection for instance:
1 seed St. John's
2 seed UConn
10 seed Creighton
10 seed Marquette
Compared to last year:
2 seed St. John's
7 seed Marquette
8 seed UConn
9 seed Creighton
11 seed Xavier
Personally I'd take next year over last year. Those 7-9 range seeds are tough to advance far, and having a 1 seed easily offsets the loss of a fifth bid IMO. Also, he has Creighton way too low. The main issue with the Big East next year will be depth, probably will be worse, but ultimately things are judged based on March.
Either way, we need a much stronger OOC this year than we did last year. Looks like staff is on it.