Anderson - is he really the guy ?

[beast of the east]

Beast of the East post=447927 wrote:

Repole has definitely pissed off a lot of important people, but the ball is in his court to make an overture to SJU. 

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He's the billionaire and we are looking for funding.  I would say the ball is in our court.


 

You should reach out to him.   He must have a twitter account.  University lines of communication are open with him, I will tell you that.

By a similar fashion, Stuart Sternberg, who owns the Tampa Bay Rays and is a St. John's alum, has rebuffed multiple attempts by the school.  He is likely worth more than Repole, but just has no interest in St. Johns at this point.

 

[Ray Morgan]

Wait, what? Here's a list of top 100 kids who the last 3 coaches have brought in either directly or via transfer:
Norm:
Burrell

Lavin:
Polee
Harkless
Harrison
Greene
Garrett
Sir Dom
Sampson
Obekpa
Jordan
Branch

Mullin:
Ponds
Lovett
Simon
Heron

Plus we got countless other top 150 kids like Mason Jr, DJ, Ellison, etc. Plus JC AA's like Hardy, Brownlee, Primo, LJ, Ahmed. etc. And highly regarded foreign players like Mussini, Fruedenberg, etc. So I'm not quite sure where this notion came about that we can't get talent to come here, because it's simply not true. 

A few points. My list was post Lavin. That was 3 coaches again and has no recency.  I used the ESPN top 100. I did not include transfers from junior colleges or otherwise. Of course we can get talent.  Top 150 will get you mid pack in your conference and a low seeding every 5 years or so.  Like I asked Lawmanfan, if you can provide a successful program in a major conference that wins with players exclusively in the 100-200 range, then you will have my attention. If there is such a program, we need to follow their plan.  Or figure out what's missing here and do what the top programs do: Get more 4 star players out of high school.  They are more likely to be difference makers. I'm not sure why that seems to be hard to accept, although I have my theories.


 

I stand corrected Ray. I looked at the list quickly. I still think Mullin/Matt brought in ample talent, much better talent then we've seen CMA bring in. Not all right out of High School, but that's fine. Lots of schools in this new era are relying on transfers as well as high school kids.  Mullin wasn't a coach, CMA is. I think if CMA had Mullin's last 2 year talent, the team would easily be dancing. And yes, it's pretty damn simple; get the players and success will follow. Don't get the players, and it won't. It's the school's job to figure out how to compete with other schools in the conference in terms of facilities, etc. FWIW I just read an article were Cragg said that attendance is up 33% over last season. So that's encouraging. Between that and some fundraising, which he and Shanley are supposed to be very good at,  maybe there's hope. 

Mullin had ample talent to succeed.  Absolutely agree. Simon, LJ and Ponds were 4 stars, and Heron a 5 star. Right players and wrong coach.  Good programs exhaust all resources. Nova added Paschall and he was an important part of their championship team. I wasn't thrilled with Matt's seemingly sole focus on transfers. I like CMA, and hope he succeeds.  We were poised for a really nice season, and the transfer rules gave him and the whole program a gut punch.  Still hoping that the Pitt loss was a wake up call and a character builder.  Like  the Niagara loss was in 1984.
 

 

[monte]

So if I understand this correctly, Repole, a passionate SJU alum and basketball fan, and the one guy who can single handedly provide the finances to upgrade our facilities and a whole lot more, which will in turn elevate our program,  hurt the feelings of a few BOT members so he's not really welcome at SJU. Well, he's sorta welcome, but he's gotta be the one to make the first move. If that's accurate,  I gotta tell ya, that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard in my life. SJU needs Repole, not the other way around.  No wonder this school is in dire financial straits . 

 

[beast of the east]

So if I understand this correctly, Repole, a passionate SJU alum and basketball fan, and the one guy who can single handedly provide the finances to upgrade our facilities and a whole lot more, which will in turn elevate our program,  hurt the feelings of a few BOT members so he's not really welcome at SJU. Well, he's sorta welcome, but he's gotta be the one to make the first move. If that's accurate,  I gotta tell ya, that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard in my life. SJU needs Repole, not the other way around.  No wonder this school is in dire financial straits . 

Reach out to him.  He's as passionate as you are.  Maybe you'll have some luck.   Like I said, there are lines of communication open.   There is no one blocking Repole, or wouldnt take his calls.  I think you are commenting based on you chatting with some people on here without knowing very much about anything.   You say that Repole would be unwelcomed by SJU and that's not true.   He just can't ever repeat his ridiculous, immature, outbursts.  He might be welcomed on here for that.

I seriously think that his most ardent supporters on here should reach out to him.

 

[RedStormNC]

Lines of communication being open is meaningless if no one if picking up a phone.  

Someone with a real connection, not just some random alum/fan, should proactively try to speak with this guy and see where his head it at.  Sometimes you just need to know you're still wanted or needed.
 

 

[beast of the east]

Lines of communication being open is meaningless if no one if picking up a phone.  

Someone with a real connection, not just some random alum/fan, should proactively try to speak with this guy and see where his head it at.  Sometimes you just need to know you're still wanted or needed.


 

To conclude that there has been no communication between SJU and Repole would be wrong.   

 

[SJU Double Alumn]

Lines of communication being open is meaningless if no one if picking up a phone.  

Someone with a real connection, not just some random alum/fan, should proactively try to speak with this guy and see where his head it at.  Sometimes you just need to know you're still wanted or needed.


 

Sorry, I won't be more specific than that.   Feel free to speculate.  It keeps the board going.   Repole is good friends with Kull at Fordham.  There's a better chance he donates there.

It’s not like Repole donated a ton when Kull was here. People here get too caught up with Repole. I’ve never seen anything to make me think he would donate millions into SJU’s program. 

 

[fuchsia]

I would tell my students (in addiction counseling) that my job was not to teach them answers but to teach them to ask better questions.  I have gone through all of these Pitt postmortem threads and hope I have come up with a few questions, so here goes.

• Is next years expected roster of Posh, Wusu, Stanley, Pinzon, Nyiwe, King, and Storr, plus the remnant transfers projected as a decent forty minutes of hell team?
• Is Wusu better as a stretch four, particularly if he learns some back to the basket and fadeaway footwork?
• Are Mathis, Coburn, and Smith each incomplete players to a degree that parts of either our defense or offense will break down at some point if we rely on them?
• Is there specific payoff to moving Pinzon to co-point guard with Posh and then rotating one of the three transfers and Wusu to the two guard to maintain continuity?

Sorry, I left out redshirt Drissa Traore.

 

[IDRAFT]

This is New York, the amount of seriously wealthy people may or may not be the highest per capita in the United States, I haven't looked it up. But when you add in the massive population the actual headcount of seriously wealthy people has to be higher than anywhere else in the U.S. So, worrying about one guy seems very strange to me, but a problem that I think the SJU administration has had for a long time. Not Repole per se, but as the only potential big time basketball school in New York City, constantly worrying mostly about Alumni basketball donations.

I get why they chase Alumni, we know all schools do. But when it comes to the basketball program the real money is elsewhere. Because there just aren't many Alumni who care about the program. 

When the team is successful and 19,000 show up to MSG do you really think that's Alumni?  I've lived here my entire life, know surely hundreds of Alumni and can count on two hands how many that would even know SJU is 9-3 right now. On the other hand, living here my entire life if I worked at it hard enough I could easily count over one hundred non-Alum friends and acquaintances who root for the team and would know the teams record. 

When it comes to outreach for basketball there is no way SJU is going to raise any serious money when they keep reaching out to the people who don't really care. SJU was a commuter school for years and most people who went there were just passing through. That might change someday with dorms now but that's why the older crowd isn't donating and they aren't going to change.

Does North Carolina or Kansas only get their donations from Alumni, or do they leverage the entire State population? I strongly suspect it's the latter. SJU bills itself as New Yorks Team.  Why not try raising funds with that mindset?

 

 

[beast of the east]

This is New York, the amount of seriously wealthy people may or may not be the highest per capita in the United States, I haven't looked it up. But when you add in the massive population the actual headcount of seriously wealthy people has to be higher than anywhere else in the U.S. So, worrying about one guy seems very strange to me, but a problem that I think the SJU administration has had for a long time. Not Repole per se, but as the only potential big time basketball school in New York City, constantly worrying mostly about Alumni basketball donations.

I get why they chase Alumni, we know all schools do. But when it comes to the basketball program the real money is elsewhere. Because there just aren't many Alumni who care about the program. 

When the team is successful and 19,000 show up to MSG do you really think that's Alumni?  I've lived here my entire life, know surely hundreds of Alumni and can count on two hands how many that would even know SJU is 9-3 right now. On the other hand, living here my entire life if I worked at it hard enough I could easily count over one hundred non-Alum friends and acquaintances who root for the team and would know the teams record. 

When it comes to outreach for basketball there is no way SJU is going to raise any serious money when they keep reaching out to the people who don't really care. SJU was a commuter school for years and most people who went there were just passing through. That might change someday with dorms now but that's why the older crowd isn't donating and they aren't going to change.

Does North Carolina or Kansas only get their donations from Alumni, or do they leverage the entire State population? I strongly suspect it's the latter. SJU bills itself as New Yorks Team.  Why not try raising funds with that mindset?



 

Good post, but I do think most donors to universities went to that school.   Villanova does have a substantial % of parents of students who donate to the school as well.   We have 170,000 alumni, and about 7000 donors who contribute anything.   Over time we've had big donors who didn't go here but supported the mission of the school.   JSJ would know better, but I believe that not only did Jerome Belson not go here, but he was Jewish.

I do agree that our fan base includes alumni and non-alumni.    That includes a number of posters on this board.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

I would tell my students (in addiction counseling) that my job was not to teach them answers but to teach them to ask better questions.  I have gone through all of these Pitt postmortem threads and hope I have come up with a few questions, so here goes.

• Is next years expected roster of Posh, Wusu, Stanley, Pinzon, Nyiwe, King, and Storr, plus the remnant transfers projected as a decent forty minutes of hell team?
• Is Wusu better as a stretch four, particularly if he learns some back to the basket and fadeaway footwork?
• Are Mathis, Coburn, and Smith each incomplete players to a degree that parts of either our defense or offense will break down at some point if we rely on them?
• Is there specific payoff to moving Pinzon to co-point guard with Posh and then rotating one of the three transfers and Wusu to the two guard to maintain continuity?

Sorry, I left out redshirt Drissa Traore.

Wusu has all the skills of a guard. He’s big enough to switch on 4s for possessions but he is really undersized height wise to play there significantly. It’s semantics really but I’d say he could be your “point forward” from time to time but still would think as the 3 gives us the best chance.

Your point about the three guard transfers seems right. Different skill sets that if put together would make one really good player.


I’m ready to say play Pinzon 20 minutes. Don’t think you lose much if anything in the short term and could pay off big down the line or as soon as later this season.

Didn’t understand the Traore redshirt when it happened. You can rarely get a kid to stay somewhere for 3 years, let alone 5.

 

[monte]

I would tell my students (in addiction counseling) that my job was not to teach them answers but to teach them to ask better questions.  I have gone through all of these Pitt postmortem threads and hope I have come up with a few questions, so here goes.

• Is next years expected roster of Posh, Wusu, Stanley, Pinzon, Nyiwe, King, and Storr, plus the remnant transfers projected as a decent forty minutes of hell team?
• Is Wusu better as a stretch four, particularly if he learns some back to the basket and fadeaway footwork?
• Are Mathis, Coburn, and Smith each incomplete players to a degree that parts of either our defense or offense will break down at some point if we rely on them?
• Is there specific payoff to moving Pinzon to co-point guard with Posh and then rotating one of the three transfers and Wusu to the two guard to maintain continuity?

Sorry, I left out redshirt Drissa Traore.

Wusu has all the skills of a guard. He’s big enough to switch on 4s for possessions but he is really undersized height wise to play there significantly. It’s semantics really but I’d say he could be your “point forward” from time to time but still would think as the 3 gives us the best chance.

Your point about the three guard transfers seems right. Different skill sets that if put together would make one really good player.


I’m ready to say play Pinzon 20 minutes. Don’t think you lose much if anything in the short term and could pay off big down the line or as soon as later this season.

Didn’t understand the Traore redshirt when it happened. You can rarely get a kid to stay somewhere for 3 years, let alone 5.

Yes the Traore redshirt was odd then, and even odder now having seen our front line play. Of course we have no way of knowing what went on in practice, and how many MPG Traore was expected to see. Seems that either it was clear to CMA that he was simply not ready to play at this level. that CMA overestimated our front line, or a combination of both. 

 

[austour]

There's a lot less distractions for attention and discretionary spending in the areas where these otherwise nondescript state mega universities are located.    In Lawrence, Lexington, Tallahasee, etc....  there is nothing that takes up much time nor spending.

 

[room112]

I really think Mullin/Matt were on the right track with how to acquire high level talent at a school like St. John's. If you can't get them out of high school, get them via the transfer route and/or JUCO route. The problem with the talent that those guys brought in was it didn't always fit well together, and there were some questionable decisions made on who to bring in.

 

[monte]

I really think Mullin/Matt were on the right track with how to acquire high level talent at a school like St. John's. If you can't get them out of high school, get them via the transfer route and/or JUCO route. The problem with the talent that those guys brought in was it didn't always fit well together, and there were some questionable decisions made on who to bring in.

Agreed 112, but I do think that a better coach would have been able to create a better fit amongst the players. I am confident that CMA would have had that group playing much better together then Mullin did. 

 

[IDRAFT]

 

There's a lot less distractions for attention and discretionary spending in the areas where these otherwise nondescript state mega universities are located.    In Lawrence, Lexington, Tallahasee, etc....  there is nothing that takes up much time nor spending.

I agree. There's also way way less population. You don't have to be the biggest game in town here to be real big. 

 

[monte]

So if I understand this correctly, Repole, a passionate SJU alum and basketball fan, and the one guy who can single handedly provide the finances to upgrade our facilities and a whole lot more, which will in turn elevate our program,  hurt the feelings of a few BOT members so he's not really welcome at SJU. Well, he's sorta welcome, but he's gotta be the one to make the first move. If that's accurate,  I gotta tell ya, that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard in my life. SJU needs Repole, not the other way around.  No wonder this school is in dire financial straits . 

Reach out to him.  He's as passionate as you are.  Maybe you'll have some luck.   Like I said, there are lines of communication open.   There is no one blocking Repole, or wouldnt take his calls.  I think you are commenting based on you chatting with some people on here without knowing very much about anything.   You say that Repole would be unwelcomed by SJU and that's not true.   He just can't ever repeat his ridiculous, immature, outbursts.  He might be welcomed on here for that.

I seriously think that his most ardent supporters on here should reach out to him.

He probably doesn't see his behavior as "Immature outbursts". But sometimes that's what it takes to get results. Clearly he didn't get this successful by running around all day and behaving like a petulant child. The school needs to figure out how to make this about business, and not make personal. Anyhow, glad to see if he and I have any friends in common, seeing as we grew up pretty close to one another and I have lots of friends from MV. Not sure he would even talk to me, but I'll see what I can do. The way I see it, it's worth a shot, since I can't do any worse then the administration has done with him. 

 

[RedStormNC]

My take is no one can make anyone else write a check they don't want to write, but if the right people can genuinely articulate how that person's ability can have lasting, transformational and positive influence on the next generation in someone's childhood community and alma mater both academically and athletically, there should always be a chance and it's worth proactively pursuing.  I think Fr. Shanley could have that potential, but perhaps Repole would be better served hearing it from others (ex. students in need, athletes etc) too in a constructive manner.

Maybe if Zach B. is reading this thread, he should write a follow up / post Francesa WFAN interview article.... lol... that might get some attention... lol

Interesting quotes from Repole on his business philosophy

[URL]https://www.thedrum.com/news/2021/10/11/bodyarmor-founder-mike-repole-if-you-re-not-failing-you-re-not-trying-hard-enough[/URL]]Bodyarmor founder Mike Repole: ‘if you’re not failing, you’re not trying hard enough’ | The Drum[/url]

 

[monte]

My take is no one can make anyone else write a check they don't want to write, but if the right people can genuinely articulate how that person's ability can have lasting. transformational and positive influence on the next generation in someone's childhood community and alma mater both academically and athletically, there should always be a chance and it's worth proactively pursuing.  I think Fr. Shanley could have that potential, but perhaps Repole would be better served hearing it from others (ex. students in need, athletes etc) too in a constructive manner.

Maybe if Zach B. is reading this thread, he should write a follow up / post Francesa WFAN interview article.... lol... that might get some attention... lol

Interesting quotes from Repole on his business philosophy

[URL]https://www.thedrum.com/news/2021/10/11/bodyarmor-founder-mike-repole-if-you-re-not-failing-you-re-not-trying-hard-enough[/URL]]Bodyarmor founder Mike Repole: ‘if you’re not failing, you’re not trying hard enough’ | The Drum[/url]

Love it! Great philosophy. I'll take a passionate sore loser any day of the week, on the court/field or in business. The flip side though, is if you're always failing you're either definitely not trying hard enough, or you simply don't have an aptitude for that particular sport or business. 
 

 

[Alumni Hall]

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